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Comment by 7121

Very easy boss, just have a good team two tanks, and all is good.

Comment by 7073

Hard boss to do if you dont have the levels for it. The simple strat for him is to have a tank and healer summon him in his room, and then kite him into the room where you faught the 4 stone npcs only a few minutes earlier. Fighting him this way stops him from summoning the Big elites near the end and just makes 1 mob run up at a time.

Comment by schizophrenia

The above method works but is not needed to down him with almost any group. Just simply assign a rogue / hunter / paladin to killing the adds as they spawn, and when he's near 25% life and calls the elite adds everyone simply goes all in on the boss. When he dies, his adds die as well.

Comment by 8237

The major problem with Uldaman is that the beginning part of the Instance is much lower than the end part of it. The use of a backdoor halfway through the instance makes it pretty clear that Uldaman was supposed to be made for a Lower Level front run and then a Higher Level Back Run.

Archaedas is fairly easy to kill with an appropriate leveled group (level 43 or so members). He himself has a lot of HP and has high melee migation. He doesn't hit incredibly hard though.

He summons non-elite adds throughout the fight that have low HP and can be killed in a few hits. They will build up if you don't kill them quickly though so assign one of your members to killing them when they spawn (Rogue or Hunter if you have one as they will deal less damage to Arch as a Mage or Warlock).

Get him down to 20% and he will spawn 4 elite adds. These do die when he dies though so have everyone quickly DPS him down (make sure your warrior goes into battle stance and spams execute for even more damage). Once he's dead go into the room behind him for the Disks of Norragon for a quest line that will get you a 14 Slot Bag and a chest with 2-3 greens.

Comment by 23359

Another strategy that makes this boss very easy (laughable, even) is to have a member of your party (hunter, preferably, but the tank will do fine if you don't have one) kite him down to one room below his own room. It is the room where the 4 elite stone watchers spawn that blow up when they die. Fighting him there, the non-elite adds will slowly trickle in, making them extremely easy to kill. Also, when he gets to 20%, as pointed out by Tupac he will summon 4 elite adds. In most cases, these will never make it downstairs before you kill him. Hope that helps :)

Comment by Eversion

You need at least 3 people to summon him. Tested this so you can't boost only 1 person unless you boost with 2 people.

Comment by 18004

he should be doable with most groups if they play well.
we did him with only 4 players, and not very high lvl's either.

44 warrior
44 shammy (healer)
45 pala (add smacker)
44 mage (dps on boss)

the boss doesnt do much dmg, so i (shammy/healer) was healing both tank and pala. while doing dps on boss.
pala ran around smacking everything that came to life.
when 4 elites spawn. all focus hard dps on boss.
got in a few heals, that might occur in pulling elites and get smacked. but doesnt matter if one die.
anyway. didnt die and down he went.

very confident in our team, we went straight to Zul'Farrak and downed everything but the cave dude and we didnt have the mallet.

conclusion: lvl's help, good players make the difference =)

Comment by iceberge

We went in with 2 lvl 40-50 players and 2 70's. We killed him before he could finish spawning the first set of non elite guys. However, when he went down the doors to the next room never opened.

Seems to be glitched if you kill him too fast.

Comment by 70883

Just (2007 July 17) killed him. i'm 43lvl hunter BM (EU Mazrigos-pvp), i was tanking him with my pet (cat-dps type) he doesnt hit much, like 250damage maybe more i was using mend pet regulary and priest heals pet as well, also we got mage, pala (retri) and warlock - all taken care of ads when me and my pet slowly bringing boss down. i used 2 times bestial wrath so all fight take smth between 4-5min.
pala me and pet had BoM on us (105 more damage or smth similiar)
all got 32 stamina from priest and all who need got int buff from mage.
no one was higher than 43lvl. all went smooth, only one dead (or two - dont remember). dropped rare +int ring.
Good luck to anyone who gonna face him (not that hard as he looks ;) )

Comment by 67131

WARNING TO ALL PLAYERS BEING RAN THE GUYS THIS GUY SPAWNS MUST FULLY SPAWN ALL THE LEVELS BEFORE U KILL HIM IF NOT DOORS WILL STAY CLOSED
-Other Ring
-Inner Ring
-Big Guys on the Side

Comment by 78714

Hes an instance end boss making him much sronger than a normal elite of the same lvl.

Comment by 76511

down him with a low lvl group...he killed us one time...2time we put him down with no kills
i tank boss with my dudu in bear form 42 and the other(warr sham and mage)take the other adds
we have a very good priest on healing

Comment by 100154

4 manned him, was quite easy, and I highly recommend following Tupac's guide. He doesn't really hit hard, so as long as a warrior keeps aggro with a priest constantly keeping his health up, the battle is good as won. A good class to kill the adds would be hunters, their pets make excellent killers whilst the hunter himself can continue hitting the boss.

Comment by 49894

He is lvl 40 elite now. Was strangely disappointed when I took my 39 shadow priest into Uldaman today.

Comment by 86493

Done with:

41 Frost Mage

41 Beast Hunter

40 Beast hunter

38 Combat Rogue

40 Holy Pally.

A neat tip: Have your healer stand on the little tablet you use to summon him. That way, the healer can't get attacked by him (some kind of glitch or something). However, the healer can still be hit by adds. Just focus on him. DPS his butt off, and you can take him down easily. Plus, he looks cool :D.

Comment by 103447

I love Archaedas, he's such an epic boss and i've downed him with a group of 41's. He's tricky but if you know how he works this fight can be done, though it certinly takes a while.

First thing to note is Archaedas has ALOT of hp, I do not reckomend going all out dps on him unless ur team is of high lvl (45+)

Seccond thing to note is that when Archaedas awakens the adds they seem to be immue to all dmg for 2 secconds, if you're tanking and he starts waking an add up go stand near it so you get the inital agro, healers should get as far away from the statue adds as possible.

At 50% hp Archaedas awakens the circle of non elites in the center. they do decent dmg but have next to no hp. Use challenging shout if its off cooldown and get all players (tank included if he has agro on arc secured) to stop fighting Archaedas and kill these adds asap, should only take a few secconds if everyone fights.

At 25% Archaedas awakens the two elite statues, they are best aggroed by the tank and ignored for the rest of the fight.

DPS this fight needs to be steady, and mana needs to be conserved as much as possible until Archaedas summons the two elite adds.

It's best to assign one dps to handel the adds, but be prepared to assist if they fall behind. Any adds left too long will heal Archaedas so don't forget about them, especialy duing the last phase.

I've had this fight last over 15 mintues on lower leveled groups, so long as your tank knows what he's doing and the group's fast to act on the adds, steayd dps at the start and saving their best for last this is possible with a low lvl group.

Also note that arcduis is very succeptable to demolising shout/roar, sheild block and disarm while tanking him. Greatly reduces his dmg.

Also there is no magical dmg in this fight so if you have a mge get them to amplify magic on the group before you start.

Best of luck :D

Comment by 112520

HMMM anyone know what level it is to enter Uldaman just curious my freind wants a boost but im not sure if hes to low for it?

Comment by 99782

He is sort of disappointingly easy now. We 4-manned him with 43 Enh Sham, 43 Rogue, 40 Lock, and 45 Resto Sham.

Started out having the Voidwalker tank the big guy, until the warlock pulled aggro and ended up tanking for most of the fight.

Just goes to show how weak he hits.

Comment by 99012

This boss is now 39lvl with the new patch And u can't kill the Lost Dwarves

Comment by 137879

Seems the consensus is right, he's been dumbed down a bit.

Managed to take him down today with no hassle at all with:

40 Survival Hunter
38 Frostmage
42 Arms Warr
36 Resto Shaman
40 Tankadin (myself)

May have been helped slightly by the fact that I'm fully Rare plate geared at 40 already :)

Unaralas, Darkspear EU

Comment by 147153

I'm looking for some help. I am doing an Uldaman quest - Restoring the Necklace. How do I get the Construct Archaedas (Ancient Stone Watcher) to spawn. I've been in there a half dozen times and can't get him to appear. I'm a level 66 warrior and intend to take him on by myself. That is if I can get him to show up for the fight.
Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

Comment by 154064

Managed to clear this entire instance with just 3 guys:

Lv36/37 Feral Specced & Geared Druid (Healer)
Lv39/40 Hunter
Lv44/45 Warrior (Tank)

We all lvled during this instance that's why it shows two levels ;)

Didnt really have a hard time on him with just three guys and two relatively low and a healer with tank/dps gear & feral in talents ;)

As long as you dont panic this instance is pretty easy to clear with just three guys.

Comment by 82699

How can you people brag about killing him if you had a level 70's help? Unless you kill him just with people in the level range, you didn't really defeat the boss imho

Comment by 171742

Alright, I just went with a group today...

38 Warrior
40 Warrior Arms (Me) Tank - No plate.
42 Shaman
40 Paladin
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Shaman was on the adds.
Me and the warrior was on Boss,
Paladin as healer.
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Quite easy! But I died in the end :P
Umm, just keep killing the adds and make sure he goes down fairly quickly. When he summons the big ones, just focus out the boss, and then, The ENd! Get crappy ring =/

Comment by Thottbot

The key to this battle is not so much to kill the others but to kill him. Use as few people as necessary to kill the small guys he awakens, and everyone else just focus on him, when he gets to about 50% health, he'll summon the 6 guys in the middle, keep someone tanking the Archaedas and kill the others as fast as possible, as soon as you do that, EVERYONE should attack him, at some point (not sure if it's right after the 6 guys die or at a certain health) he'll summon the 2 big guys. Ignore them and just finish off Archaedas. Once he's done the other two will go away.

You gotta try to make it a short battle, otherwise it will drain you.

Comment by Thottbot

you got almost to the end, the room with 4 statues, i presume.

have 3 people click the middle alter (like summoning someone with a warlock).

The first statue will begin to move. Kill him. Stay back when he dies, it is an AE explosion. Other three statues are the same. Now doors will open. You have to kill about 2-3 more groups of the small naked dwarves, then you're at the boss.

My recommendation : once the boss calls for the serious backup (when he's at about 25% health i think) and the larger statues from the sides and the 6 around him come to life, everyone concentrate on killing Archaedas. Once he dies, all the small statues will die too. Otherwise, it can be quite difficult to finish him off, and he will continue to bring small statues to life, which will use healing beams on him.

Comment by Thottbot

http://givetheworld.net/WoW/Archaedas.mov
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Comment by Thottbot

The statement that all in the group need to be 44+ is a bunch of bull. I've done this boss several times with groups of 40-44. All you need to do is have one person take down the mobs (they spawn one at a time, every ten seconds and die quick) and the rest on the boss.

When the boss summons the six black mobs, have the tank stay on the boss, but the other four revert to killing the black mobs - they also go down pretty quick but do high dps.

When the six black mobs are dead, put all back on the boss again except the guy taking the adds. Finally at 25% life, the boss will summon two elites. Put everyone on the boss (Mages and Rogues w/ high burst dps useful here) and the adds will all disappear when the boss goes down.

As i said, I took this boss down several times with group members all fairly low, but they all knew what they were doing. However, I also did this boss once with two lvl 50s in the group that didn't know crap. Each of those groups wiped.

Comment by Thottbot

Really anything above level 44 is too high, guys. When played at the correct level this is one of the best designed and most challenging encounters in the game - its really too bad designers couldn't put this level of thought into the level 60 encounters, because it seems the majority of players just level their way past the difficulty.

Funnest group was with a warrior, priest, mage, shaman, and hunter. I believe our levels were 44, 44, 43, 43, 41. Designate one player to control all the non-elite adds (preferably a rogue, we had to use a shaman). When the elites spawn just dps the boss down. If the non-elites are zerging the healers, this is the perfect spot for the warriors six-second aoe taunt followed by aoe attacks.

Comment by Thottbot

He's in the northeastern corner of the instance. Killed him pretty easily with:
45 priest (holy) (me)
45 warrior (arms)
45 mage (frost)
45 hunter (marks)
--- we all play in the same room, so that really helped with coordination

He spawns non-elites that hit hard every 10 secs or so - they have very little HP, so we just had our hunter keep them off me with the mage helping when needed. After a little bit he activates the five around him - nothing a little AoE couldn't handle.

At 50% health, he activates 2 elite golems - we just ignored them and focused on the boss, taking out nonelites as they came. Had to pop a mana potion - fight was challenging, but nothing a good group can't handle - I thought some of the pulls in the dungeon were harder than this.

Comment by Thottbot

wanted to solo him today (60 pally) but couldnt summon him...
do you need a certain ammount of summoners so it works?

Comment by Thottbot

Yes i believe you need 3. Is that correct?

Comment by Thottbot

i did this with a level <44 group. It is not difficult, just requires good teamwork. We had:
42 Warrior, 40/1 Warrior, 42/3 Paladin, 41/2 Rogue, 43 Druid (me).

The warrior and rogue levelled at the end of Archadeus ;)

I was tanking (feral), the warriors offtanked/dps'd, the rogue stunlocked/crowd controlled, and the holy pally healed.

It was quite amusing that we ended up having a hybrid class healing, a hybrid class tanking, and the two core class party members (warriors) dpsing. Especially when we downed every boss without any deaths!

The way we took Archadeus was using a tank rotation. We had the main warrior off-tank, tanking Archadeus while i healed the first section (until inner dwarves came). The rogue dealt with the adds, the most mana-efficient solution, and the pally just melee'd the boss (keeping his mana near 100% but using a little every now and then so he could use his mana as efficiently as possible)
When i ran oom the pally took over healing, and i feral charged Archadeus and took over tanking. The warriors kept 5 sunders up and dps'd as much as possible, and when the elite adds came, the warriors picked them up, brought them to where i was tanking Archadeus, then used Intimidation shout, whilst targetting Archadeus. They used each in turn, then the one who had both their aggro at the end of it used a swiftness pot and ran around the room, by this time the other 4 of us and successfully downed Archadeus and the adds despawned instantly.

The key is to use your classes well and use mana efficiently throughout the fight. For those without experienced players, you may wish to use mana pots for the healers and heal pots for the tanks in the Archadeus fight.

At the end the Archadeic Stone of Eluding and the Rockpounder dropped, i won both, and left a very happy NE =)

Comment by Thottbot

For all the questions of 'can I solo him?', the answer is actually NO.

In the leadup to Archaedas, there is a room with an altar that requires three people to touch at the same time...without doing so, you cannot open the doors leading to the last few pulls,a nd then to Archaedas' room. ;)

However, I can attest that it's fairly simple with just one 60, and two low level toons. We killed him with a 60 Paladin, 40 Warrior and a 30 Druid. I (60 Pal) tanked and healed, and it was simple.

Comment by Thottbot

Do not pull Archaedas into the room before, the three adds outside will flatten you, their armor is extremely high even with 5 sunders on, they hit extremely hard and have a lot of HP.

Comment by Thottbot

Just completed this boss with:
46 Shadow Priest
43 Rouge
50 Rouge
45 Shaman
It was hard and we didn't get him till the third try, but it IS possible. The biggest thing to worry about is making sure at least one person is designated to take care of adds and the boss has some dps on him. We made sure that the 50 kept up a constant expose armor and let our shaman take care of adds and help out with boss when possible. 43 rouge helped with adds when necessary, but stayed on boss mostly. Priest healed, obviously. Most important thing about this strategy is that the boss needs to go down before he wakes up and elites. If those wake up, everyone needs to focus on the boss 'cause if you can get him the elites will die too. Good luck with this guy, he's tough.

Comment by Thottbot

you can not pull him out side the room. because...

1. the mobs still get summoned and come running through the door

2. soon as he leaves the room the two elites out side get summoned

we didnt exactly have a low level group eather i was level 54 at the time going to see the enchanting trainer 44 war 48 priest 40 priest and 39 durid.

Comment by Thottbot

Here's some important points in beating him.

-Every 10 seconds a statue come to alive. They are a joke. Problem is with his summons. Know his summons are triggered by hp. I *think* it is 75%, 50%, 25%. This is the key point. Once you know this the rest are easy.

-With the above, after stating the summons are hp triggered, you should already know most of the trick to beating him - don't rush this! Kill the adds as they come. By doing this you've already won 50% of the battle; this is also the prime reason why there are level 50 people failing the boss and even with a level 60 (sad), because they didn't have a clue that the boss' summon is hp triggered, so they trigger all three summon within 30 seconds because they think they are dps hotshots, and wonder why they got overwhelmed by so many monsters. When the boss summons the two elites, don't bother with them, just aim for the boss.

-Conserve mana/cooldown. Don't blow all your mana getting the boss' hp from 100%->25% (which is when he summons his elites). Save most of your mana to take the boss' hp from 25%->0 in 15 seconds. Rogue evasion tanking really helps the two elites when attempting the final stretch.

-Build your group around dps. Your group will die horribly without this. This is the other 50% of winning the battle. There isn't much you can do without having consistent dps at the last phase of the boss. You will usually lose to the boss if you go attrition style. Boss+two elites is most likely going to kill you if you don't kill them in a timely manner.

All-in-all, he isn't that bad if you remember the points above.

Comment by Thottbot

This is an EVIL boss fight, but it's possible to do it on much lower levels than you'd think.

We just completed it - on the 4th try - with a 46 Mage, 46 Priest and 46 Warrior.

Tips and tricks for that:

1) You REALLY want an off-tank for this fight. Of course, we didn't have one. In that case, it's vital that the main tank hits the adds ONCE, to aggro them, and other than that keeps aggroing Archy - if he goes off the reservation and starts beating on your squishy cloth-wearers, it's game over. We then had our priest taking out the adds with Smite, and our mage DPSing Archy.

2) The adds, with the exception of the elites at the end, do indeed suck HP-wise. There's one point where 6 black adds spawn at once - three or four Arcane Explosions take them down nicely.

3) Obviously, all the preparation in the world helps. We were running Arcane Elixirs, Rumsey Rum, Sagefish, Elixir of Giants, Wizard Oil, and some other stuff I forgot. I also downed a Greater Stoneshield potion when the elites spawned (as the tank)

4) If you've only got one aggroer, your DPS MUST stop DPSing when the elites spawn, until the tank's got them under control. Otherwise, it's "chase the elites around the room and watch them beat on the mage" time.

5) The key point, in all - aggro management is key, and bloody hard. Second to that, the problem is resource management - keeping enough resources back that you can take Archy down in the last few seconds.

I'm totally hyper from adrenaline now.

Comment by Thottbot

I'm loving all the YOU CANT PULL him posts. Thats how ive killed him each time. draw him into the room where the 4 stone guys were, he cant summon his guys. Yes the gaurds outside are mean but have one pull arch down while the others kill off the two elites. Done easy with a 44 and lower group, i tanked at 44 with my warrior.

Comment by Thottbot

I tried to solo him as 66 mage but i didnt have another guy for summoning... lol
Just for some advice, u cant solo him ;D <3

Comment by Thottbot

For the 60s or 70s trying to solo this guy..Its possible, but not without 2 other members because although you may be able to solo him, you cant summon him so its irrellevant either way.

Comment by Thottbot

Just killed him but the door didn't open after we killed him so I guess no treasure for us!

Comment by Thottbot

You do need at least 3 people to summon, first to summon the four in the room before him, then to summon him.

He is bugged.
If you down him too quickly before all his adds are spawned he bugs out you. Need to fight him very slow if your group is 60+, let him get through his damn speech. If you don't, you will be locked in the room.

If you get locked in the room, happy hearthing, the doors are not pickable or unlockable with keys.

Comment by Thottbot

they nerfed yet another teaching block in the lvling system of wow.... lowering all the bosses lvls, and making them easier, back in the day it took skill, now it just takes time. BOO bliz making nubs even higher in lvl and quicker

Comment by Thottbot

i remember doing this boss my first time for ca 2 years ago.. he was quite challanging, and was a good feeling to down him..

now today i tried him again.. and omfg, he hits like a pussy, he got no hp, and his adds die in 1 hit... took 2 min to kill him with a party at ca lvl 40...

like a normal elite with adds -_-

Comment by Thottbot

Now is easy. is 40 elite...before. 47 elite, 7 less levels, lol

Comment by Thottbot

4-manned

~ = around

40~ mage
41~ druid
40~ rogue
39~ priest

first try, not killing adds we managed to get the boss to 3%.

second try, we killed it. :)

Comment by Thottbot

ya i went in with a lvl 70 full epic, who was running me through the place just so i could get some xp (trying to reach 40, i am 39 holly pally).

The hunter took every one out while I stayed back and watched, lol. But when we got to the final boss, we could not sumon him cause you need at least 3 people (sucked).

But i was just wondering could me and the 70 soloed the boss, cause he had i think he had 9000 health and his pet mabey 9100, and i heal about 800 on average.

I was thinking I would bring like a lvl 30 just high enough that he(or) she won't die, and can help me and the hunter summon the boss.

Comment by Thottbot

Took down this boss with a stupid bad group...

45 elemental shaman
42 elemntal shaman healing
41 hunter (pet tanking)

I was the hunter, i just kept mend pet up, popped some mana pots, and took down the adds, keeping hunters mark and serpent sting on the boss at all times. when the elites spawned, i burst DPS on the boss, when he died the adds all despawned and no one died.... pretty weak I think. (all 3 of us were in greens mostly, no twink or anything)

Comment by Thottbot

he is rly easy now, i mean, me( a lvl 38 feral druid), a lvl 40 enchancment shammmy and a 41 shadow priest almost killed him, we went straight dps and got him down to bout 3000 heath lol

Comment by Thottbot

This boss isn't that bad. One thing you can do is have one DPS handle the adds. But, if you decide not to do that, the tank and/or available DPS have to watch the healer badly. When the adds come and a healing spell finishes, that's instant aggro. But, like I said, the boss isn't bad. No real abilities to watch for, basic tank and spank. It's just adds you have to watch for.

Comment by Thottbot

just to let you all know Archaedus is level 40... i just ran the instance and that is what it said... i dont know if blizz changed it or anything or if it is a random level but he was level 40 this morning.

Celedan-The Forgotten Coast

Comment by Thottbot

I gotta say, this battle is A LOT easier than it sounds. Ive dont it twice on my 42 priest and havnt wiped a single time. i guess the key is to try to get a person with AOE (mages ive found work VERY well eith AE) to just grab the adds. if you dont have and aoer, take any ranged attacker (i assume hunter would work great).
If you have an AOEer picking up the adds, then you want everyone running to the middle. this is because the adds when spawned dont have aggro upon anyone and will attack the first person they come in contact with. so if everyone runs in the middle, the AOEer can AOE the middle and grab everyone.
If you have a hunter or another ranged person, running to the middle shouldnt be necessary cuz they just have to shoot the adds to get aggro.
Everyone else just has to kill the main guy cuz as stated above many times, as soon as he goes down, his adds die with him.

Comment by Thottbot

psssh,easy to tank and im a 40 prot pally,we did him with a low lvl group(me)40 pally tanking,39 holy pally healing,41 rogue,40 retrib pally and a 38 mage dps............we didnt even think about touching the adds,me and retrib pally just used consecrate to keep adds off healz,we took him down in like a minute

Comment by Allakhazam

Even If This Is Not Gonna Work Now Because Of 10 Members Each Raid In Instances That Is Not 50-60 lvl Instances That May Have Higher/Lower Cap But If You Raided With 40 People He Realesed Everything At Once Cause Of The Mass Which Indeed Proved Funny Bad Aint Gonna Work Now

Comment by Allakhazam

Decent FaQ on the fight.

http://p066.ezboard.com/fwowpriestfrm8.showMessage?topicID=4.topic

Comment by Allakhazam

I just went in there with a full group of 45+ and 3 times in a row got our asses handed to us from the stone men that come after more than half way. The patch had seriously secrewed up the game because our rogue hid before we all died and when we went back in he started following around our warlock. send me a mail at matchbox146@yahoo.com if you want one of the pics I got of this.

Comment by Allakhazam

this guy is a 500 elite. how can 5 lvl 45-50/s beat him?

Comment by Allakhazam

At least yesterday I succed to kill him. It was my 3rd try.

The party was the following:
lvl 46 priest
lvl 47 paladin
lvl 40 warior
lvl 46 rogue
lvl 43 paladin (me)

It was realy easy.

The warior and the another pala tanked the big guy.
Me and the rogue took care the smalers.
Healer healed everybody, but the palys also helped him out.
When the boss summoned his 1st minions, the dwarfes, we, the cleaners tokk out them.
When the 2nd wawe of minions came, we all beated the boss, who died very easily.

The guy droped the Archeadic Stone. I rolled 6 on it, one guy rolled 2, 3 of us said need, so I was sure I lost it. But 3rd guy rolled 3, so i won. It was very fun.

Comment by Allakhazam

Ok going to dispel some of the stuff people are saying here.

1. Adds do not come at a set rate like some are saying.

You start to fight him and he spawns one of the 40 by the door by firing a purple laser type beam at it. Have your people set on the adds watch for this and stand by the ones he's summoning.

You can have almost anyone tank Archaedes as he spends so much time talking and summoning minnions that he doesn't do much dmg. These adds come at a pretty set time but do seem to get faster as time goes by. We've goten up to about 20 spawned overall but never fell behind with anyone lv47+ on them. Each of the 40 is a lv45 non-elite.

At 66% of life left he summons all 6 of his men from the inner circle, they again are non-elite and pretty weak just have one of the people on adds take them off the cloth wearers. Keep your priest alive.

at 33% he summons 4 elite lv 47ish golems. These guys hit hard and are a pain to try and off tank. Simply put everyone on the big guy and burn him down when he's at 35%. You'll have him under 20% life by the time they are coming at you. As soon as he dies, so do all his minions. Have everyone go to him.

The only real way to fail this fight is to fall behind on adds so keep someone who does lots of melee DPS since casters run out of mana. You also can fail if the elites spawn and people aren't on the big guy. He's got barely any hp for someone his size. Just take him out fast.

Hope this helps I love this fight and if you're on stormrage give gawdz a tell. This is one of my favorite fights in the game.

P.S. those that tell you take him down slow are idiots. If you do 20k dmg in the first second he does not summon all 40 of his men at you. Hell we've killed him so fast he only got 2 of them and we never saw the wave of elites.

Comment by Allakhazam

Tanked him as a Moonkin at level 46, around 4600 armor (had a Paladin with Devotion Aura). If I'd had the proper equipment on, my armor could've been over 5,000. Regardless, he wouldn't stop hitting me - I wasn't supposed to be the tank, but the other two meleeing (Warrior and Paladin) couldn't get him off me.

So what I found is that Moonkin is a great tank for him - good armor, and he wouldn't leave me the hell alone. How's that for aggro management?

Comment by Allakhazam

I had been running ULDA so many times to get up to this guy, and finally my 4th time around, I was with a 60 warr and 48 hunt (I am a 42 enhance shammy), so when we get to him the hunter takes care of the adds and the warrior takes care of Archie. I was basically healing the crap out of them, and when I was oom and the warrior was just about dead, he executed and Archie fell to the ground, appalled. He dropped archaedic stone of the boar and I was very happy with that. i mean really, a ring that gives you armor! :P

Comment by Allakhazam

Does anybody know his HP or have a somewhat close estimation with Mobhealth ? I think we're gonna work on that fight with some friends , might be funny to down him being 3 level 47-50 :)

Comment by Allakhazam

with a group all under 50, 3 lvl 44s (priest, warrior, paladin), a lvl 42 (me, rogue), and a lvl 46 (mage). i'm a rogue so i went around and killed all of the little dwarves that popped up, killed the ones in his inner circle when they spawned if the ones on the outer edge weren't spawning, and when the 2 stone guardian golem guys spawned, all fighting focused on archaedas. slow the dps on archaedas, how fast he spawns things is based on how much health/how much damage is being done, the slower you kill him, the more time you have to kill the underlings. an archaedic stone of the owl dropped. we got our asses handed to us one time because we had alot of dps so the underlings spawned fast, and that wasn't bad until the end when they started to heal him. slow dps, and take out underlings. once the golems spawn, just attack archaedas.

Edited, Mon Apr 4 16:24:36 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

We had a 45Rogue(me), 44lock, 43Druid, 44Shaman, 44mage. Me and the shaman took Archaedas. The Mage and the Lock Spammed AoEs on the Dwarves. Druid stayed back and healed. Other than the druid dying at the very end of the fight no one came near death at all.

Comment by Allakhazam

he's just a worldboss, therefore 500+...

isn't really 500+

Edited, Fri May 27 07:28:47 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

I was in a party last night that lost twice to this guy. (Paladin, paladin, warrior, mage, hunter) We were getting discouraged when I made a suggestion. How about me and the warrior switch places? So I tanked the boss while the warrior helped deal with the adds. Worked like a charm. Problem we had before was the warrior would get killed because both pallys were distracted or just because we got stunned at bad times. With me tanking, I didn't need support because I can heal myself. Boss died in a flash, no casualties.

Warrior tank prolly works fine with a priest on hand but for a setup like this, a self reliant tank worked better.

Comment by Allakhazam

This instance really is caek all the way..
You just need to know what you're doing (as in every other instance ofc). We almost managed all of if with a lowbie group of me at 45, a dru at 45, a hunter at 42, a priest at 41, and a warlock at 40 - we did NOT complete archaedas but tanking him was pickles.

Tip: you want a mage for Uldaman before a warlock.

Comment by Allakhazam

Dropped Robes of Insight as well as the Archaedic Stone of the Gorilla today 6/5/06

Edited, Mon Jun 5 16:52:53 2006

Comment by Allakhazam

this was one of the longest fights i must admit, but no one died. levels 40-45 in group. i, being the warrior, tanked him while some of the other group members beat the adds he summons. took forever but he dropped the stoneslayer, our pally was happy :)

Comment by Allakhazam

Did him this weekend:

45 Hunter w/turtle pet
46 Hunter w/dps cat pet
43 Druid

30 Warlock
36 Hunter w/dog

Basically: turtle tanked, druid healed, the warlock looted, and everyone else kept the crap off the druid.

Comment by Allakhazam

well.. he was not easy to kill at all.. especially those damn adds killin your nerves. so pull him upstairs and kick his ass ;)

Comment by Allakhazam

Did it today with a fairly low leveled group (36, 38, 39, 41 and 43, iirc) and got him on the first try. Just had the warrior tank wait in the room upstairs while we summoned, and then ran back up with him chasing us. None of his little buddies ever even showed up--it was soo much easier than trying to fight in the downstairs room, and he really doesn't do much damage alone--I barely had to heal anyone.

I'm just sad I didn't get the ring...had int and spirit on it, but I lost against the priest.

Comment by Allakhazam

We failed and when we got back the door was locked. Is there a way to reopen it?

Comment by Allakhazam

hes got 24430 hp so takes a while of beatin down :)

Comment by Allakhazam

I can't figure out how to get to archaedas, do you have to kill the four stone guardians and if so how do you activate the Altar of te Keepers?

Comment by Allakhazam

Took him out with a low-damage party of 45 War, 46 War, 44 Pal, 47 Pal & 40 Dru. It was a long but generally amusing fight.

The first phase was trivial. I (45 warrior, protection) tanked Archaedas, the Druid kept me alive, the 46 warrior (arms build with 2-hander) ran around bashing the small Earthen and the Paladins kept the Druid & Arms warrior healed while beating on Archaedas. This all went very smoothly, every single caster was at full or near-full mana when he activated the 6 central peons.

When phase 2 started I grabbed the nearest 3 peons, the other warrior grabbed the 3 near our druid and everyone but the druid & I focused entirely on /assist-training through the peons. Once they were all dead we went back to the phase one strategy.

When the 2 constructs were activated I just taunted both onto me and kept them there - I could basically ignore Archaedas at this point due to previous threat buildup - while everyone else went on as before. The druid did start to lose mana during this due to the extra damage I was taking from the constructs, but we killed Archaedas long before she ran out and the paladins had to take over.

It took us a good 4-5 minutes to finish the fight, but no one was ever in any danger. If your party is higher on damage and lower on survival you might want to go for just nuking past the later parts but the fight is perfectly doable without any heavy artillery whatsoever.

Comment by Allakhazam

Dude this guy iza b-tch to take out his adds are the gayest thing ever! i had a 60priest me(44shaman) a 46warr a 43rogue and a 46druid, our "plan" however sucked ballz(just wail on archaedas) however he was at half health when warr lost aggro to healz and we died .... sadly i never finished this instance. Next time i do this crappy instance im going /w my hunter so i can use grimloks charge and other crap that drops XD if it werent for his adds wed of had him EZ. But i guess thats what makes the instance L337

Comment by Allakhazam

The best way to deal it, is to start summoning him, and when he starts to crumble, run for the upper floor (the one with another summoning table where 4 elementals appear in order). That way when he summons his helpers he does it slow, so really a few come up to help him (instead the whole army you can see downstairs).
You can't not kill them, because even if they disappear after you kill Archa, they can heal him, making your killing more difficult. Anyway they die easily. So, having a hunter is a good option since with 1 single multi shot, generally, they die. And since they come 1 by 1, from time to time, as a hunter you always have your multishot up!

Comment by Allakhazam

Excellent boss fight =) Nice going Blizzard =) Rest of the instance sucks though...very long and boring and the fact that reagent run requires 3-4 times doing it sucks :D

Comment by Allakhazam

just tank him were he stand and then nuke then theres comes adds just aoe with a lock, mage or hunter and nke him untill dead the adds will die when he dies

Comment by Allakhazam

Had a group with a 44 pally(me), 44 mage, 49 rogue, 44 warrior and 46 rogue. I was the healer and myself and the mage died to his friends but he did die and dropped the rockpounder which I won over the warrior so it was worth it.

Comment by Allakhazam

Jesus, two men activate the altar while the rest wait up stairs, when he starts crumbling run as fast as your highlander plate greves can carry you back to them, then sunder the monstrosity and beat the hell out of him, his adds wont even come upstairs, well maybe a few, but this is real easy pickings, everything went smooth till our goddamn priest healer needed the ring, i mean jesus christ

Comment by Allakhazam

Took him down last night w/ a 41 Shammy, 42 Hunter, lock, pally, and 44 Warrior. Warrior tanked, Pally healed (not sure if he was heal specc'd). Rest took adds till elites and then full dps.

Comment by Allakhazam

I successfully killed this guy yesterday with a rather low group...

43 Priest
44 Warrior
44 Mage
42 Warlock
44 Rogue (Me)

The trick to killing him is when he calls out have everyone attack him and when hes finally dead all of the adds die too...

Comment by Allakhazam

60 hunter (me), 44 mage, 44 lock, 39 pally.

Got him to like 10% hp the first time. My pet was tanking him. Second time, I soloed this behemoth while they others killed the adds. (Like they really helped) They died when he was at like 15% health. I used feign death , and let the pet take the aggro. I got up and QUICKLY piled on DPS before I took back the aggro. My pet died, I killed him while he was still rushing at me. Dropped- Stoneslayer- They let me have it for doing most of the work in killing him.

Comment by Allakhazam

good shot of the action p top, looks like they're successful in their fight. i'm only a level 32 Night Elf Warrior, but i'll soon be able to have some real fun with these fights.

Comment by Allakhazam

As Far As I Raided Him (about 12 times) i have gotten pabal paz or energy cloak nearly all times happend 1-3 times i got anything else is this just lucky?

Comment by Allakhazam

i was in a group with lvl47- and beat him 1st try, he dropped stoneslyer, i won roll because i rolled 93, but other guy got it b/c my invent was full. now i'm trying again, 3 times , with two lvl52s, and died everytime. wat am i doing wrong?

Comment by Allakhazam

We pawned em with only a 58 priest a 45 warrior a 42 hunter and me 52 warrior he dropped the Rockpounder! We were doin good the 58 priest died he was soo close then i heroic striked em and i won the mace! I am so happy.

Comment by Allakhazam

Got him to 2% hp last night with me (43 Dru for tank) 44 priest, 42 rog, 48 rog and a 46 balance druid. We could have done it but it was our first attempt and I had to go to work in 90 mins and had to jet. Will know better for next time to have me tank him solo ( just priest healing ) and have others do adds. So This fight is doable in low to mid 40's but it lots of fun :)

The "plan" we tried was"
Myself and the 48 rog on the boss with priest for healing me and other rog and dru for adds. However I see that the problem was i was holding aggro too well and the 48 rog was going all out on him so we has tons of adds at once. Slower would hav ebeen much better. He (boss) hits hard but slow and does lots of blabbering.

Edited, Wed Nov 30 16:45:01 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

hehe, i just killed bada-s with 60mage,44druid,42rogue(me),41rogue, and 46warrior.wasn't so hard.only the mage died and all others survived. u just haveta keep pounding this guy,when he dies,the adds die too with 'im.and btw this mob is only(:P)47lvl,not 500 as allakhazam says lol

Comment by Allakhazam

Having run my lock through various times (between levels 40 and 43 at this point), I've noticed a couple of things about this guy...

Obviously, as he is level 47, it's probably *suggested* that a good portion of your group be at least 44 to be able to take him out, especially if you have casters in your group.

Secondly, he seems to resist spells a *lot* less as long as he doesn't have adds. So, case in point, if you have a lock, have them dot to hell the second the tank gets aggro. Then when the adds come, eliminate them *immediately* and have your lock dot him all over again. If your lock has dark pact, it makes life infinitely easier, because that mana is going to be used up *really* quickly, especially if s/he is the lone caster in the group, save your healer (trust me, I know! :D).

The one time that we beat this guy was with a lv65 hunter, lv43 pally, lv42 lock (me) and lv44 rogue. 4-manning any final boss can get hard enough, but I certainly would not suggest doing it with this one unless 1. his level isn't red to *all* party members, or 2. you're getting a run though. We actually didn't bring the 65 hunter until we wiped about 2/3 of the way through, trying to get through the troggs right before you get to the chain of hallways leading downstairs. Hooray for soulstones, though. Instant resurrection for the resurrector is the best thing since sliced bread. :)

Comment by Allakhazam

I don't know if all of your characters just don't know team work or your team just sucked. I ran this with a 41 <Hunter beast speced) a 41 Druid Bear form a 40 priest (healer) and a 41 shaman. I handeled the adds as they where quite slow my spider using beastile wrath has a 80+dps and about 4k armor so hes an awsome tank. The healer hid behind me and healed. I pulled all the spawn. The main point is the spawns die once he dies so focus everything on him. He is easy as pie

Comment by Allakhazam

Main tank on him, as you take him down he summons the little peons around him, they have about 325hp take him down slowly and he only summons one at a time.
when he gets to about 50-60% life he summons the 6 in the center they hit hard and its AOE but same HPsas peons 1 mortar shot from a goblim mortar is enough to take them down. (have the priest heal and pull agro and put up a shield while the mortar is fired)
then have the tank really slow down the attacking till all the peons are done with. after they are all gone unload on him. he will call the two vault keepers to help him. ignore them (w/o dying) and kill him. they have ALOT of HP's and armor.
If you kill main guy the two adds dissappear. and you can go on in to the vault.

Comment by Allakhazam

I always get a kick out of the "you have to have a " party makeup last night we killed dude with 3 mid 40's hunters a warlock and a preist...Archaedas died as a result of pet attacks and DOT's...everybody else just shot the adds and the healer kept pets alive, amazing how the standard party mold can be broke if ya use a good plan
// he droped the ring for me...of the wolf

Comment by Allakhazam

Guys this boss is soo easy if u do it rite. Just clear the chamber above where u activate the 4 stone guardians. Work ure way done to him and then wen u enter his room, let 2 ppl go back up to the chamber above. Then activate him and run up to the top. It takes the mobs soo long to get up to you that the elites ddnt even make it. Just put a dps on the adds mage is best and every1 else kill him. Did with a lvl 44 ish grp only 5 mobs made it to us. Easiest run ive done.

Comment by Allakhazam

Archaedas is a lvl 47 Elite there are statues around him he makes them ALIVE

Comment by Allakhazam

Easy encounter. any full group in 40's should be able to handle it.

Tactics are really simple: Main Tank engages Archaedas, and everybody else engages the peons around. At times you'd need AE so a Mage is a good choice, but you don't HAVE to have a mage to finish this encounter.

Comment by Allakhazam

43-48 as in levels

Comment by Allakhazam

I've now taken him down 6 times in the past few days and have yet to see a ring. Each loot is stoneslayer or rockpounder. Has anyone else noticed this?

Comment by Allakhazam

we, a group of:
me, lvl 47 warrior, 44 hunter, 43 mage, 41 priest, 43 shaman didn't succeed in killing him :/ we wiped 5 or 6 times, then server restarted... best attemt was at like 5% (hasn't got mod for it so i'm not sure) and I think we had made it then if I had made an execute or someting :/ maybe tomorrow.....

Comment by Allakhazam

Took him down first time. 45 warr, 47 feral druid, 46 shadow priest, 43 rogue, 45 hunter. I (warrior) tanked Archaedas throughout the fight, and so did all the damage to him. Everyone else took care of the adds, except the priest who was busy healing.

Dropped the one thing I didn't want. :(

Comment by Allakhazam

u have got to be kidding!
this guy has felt de cold end of MY blade more than any other @#$%ty worldboss

i truly believe he's the most weak boss i have ever faced

i mean come on this @#$%^ can go down if ur solo

no problem

whats the big deal?

Comment by Allakhazam

this guys is the coolest,i was lvl 46 warrior and i was with my raid ( 2 warlocks, 2 paladins, 4 priests 4 mages :P) he dropped alot of green, but i was really hoping for that bloodrazor :P

didnt get it but my raid was happy with this guy. all those trash mobs pised everyone off, but with a little dragging and shouting it went pretty well :D

definetly face this guy and get that blood razor :P

Comment by Allakhazam

Did it the "hard way" today, 2-3 mins encounter (probably less).

Priest 49&48, Hunter 55, Rogue 50, Paladin ? (<50, maybe 48).

DoT Archa, Bomb him, high DPS all the time. ignore any adds. Now its a priest problem: Fade. priest 1 heals priest 2, peons run around like crazy hitting priests. if possible and necessary, healed our members.

ok, that poor holy priest died.. angel came and healed us :D i stopped healing and bombed archa.. i had about 150 HP left.. BOOM archa is dead. res, done.

Okay, that was luck, but we did it. And it was fast. Funny guy :D

Comment by Allakhazam

a group of 43-48 people(pala, 2 warriors and a rogue) with a lvl 34 priest did this :>

Comment by Allakhazam

3-manned him, 48 feral druid, 44 holy paladin, 50 hunter (myself). It was actually really fun to take him down with such few numbers, and I'd recrommend doing it this way to anyone looking for an extra thrill. We wiped twice trying to figure out the strategy for the elite adds, and we all started working on one level earlier (all three of us dinged during the fights). We've done it twice now and plan to do it again and fraps it for fun.

Basically, we had the paladin tank and ONLY cast healing spells on himself and throw blessings when needed. He crit healed so much that he replenished his mana whenever he full-healed. (Therefore, a holy paladin might be a requirement.) The druid and I took care of the little nekkid earthen whenever they popped. If the pally's health dipped a little low, the druid gave him a heal and had to use one innervate on him during the course of the fight. We used bandages otherwise.

Whenever Archaedas shouts during the middle about 'assisting their master', that's when I laid an explosive trap at his feet. This grabbed the attention of all six of the inner ring, non-elite earthen so they wouldn't beat on the paladin.

When it gets down to maybe 4-5 non-elite earthen left, I started going all out on Archaedas while the druid (and my pet) worked on what was left.

Here's the fun part. When he summons his two elite stone guardians, the paladin bubbles to drop aggro and the druid picked up tanking Archaedas. With a stone guardian on the pet and the pally (just to keep them off of the druid), we plugged away until he died. Only casualty was my poor snakie.

Two out of three of us have some nice new rings. :) Going back for more.

Edited, Aug 20th 2006 at 2:18pm EDT by Inhandra

Comment by Allakhazam

Does anyone else notice it says "lvl 43 - 500 giant"? LOL

I'll have to solo this guy... I want the Archaedic Stone of the Monkey.

Comment by Allakhazam

We took him down with 2 warriors, 1 priest, 1 warlock, 1 mage. The main tank takes on the big guy and what is most important is the tank to do as little damage as possible to him. This means more time to kill the peons he animates. It is a cakewalk until the two elites are animated then the real fun begins. We did not turn on the big guy because sometimes the adds do not despawn when he dies. The elites will go after the highest treat level which will be the healers. It is up to the secondary tank to get aggro fast. In the fight we had the priest died but rezzed back with a soulstone, which saved the fight. The mage died next but managed to kill one of the elites.
Good luck killings the Makers

Comment by Allakhazam

DId it with a moonkin druid and a bunch of others.the moonkin summoned treants and beat the crap out of the big guym while one hunter was taking up the adds. everyone ( except the healer ( me) and the hunter killing adds) was dpsing the boss, meaning we got his health down to 33% in like 2+ mins, and when the elites came, lock got Voidy to tank the elites and even me as the healer went shadow and attacked the boss. dead in 15 secs.

BTW the add die after the boss dies, so mabbe someone could try a rush of EVERYONE attack the boss only.

Comment by Karmuk

I helped some guild mates with my lvl 60 warrior. We were to quick in killing him before his adds all had spawned, Because of that the late adds did not despawn because he was already dead, we had to kill them and then were locked in the room and had to teleport out of there - could not even get to the quest in the room behind.

Comment by SpareSimian

In , speculates that the Chamber of the Heart is the work of Archaedas.

Comment by Catyra

In WotLK this is soloable, click the center interactable and wait until the stone guardians start attacking, the door will open once all 4 are killed.

Comment by Taraezor

Our party was 2 x level 44 rogues (I was one), 1 x level 41 priest, 1 x level 41 paladin, and 1 x level 43 mage.

The fight began and... a problem: the pally was too low level to tank. I had immediate and sustained aggro. I had to tank!

When the heals slowed I used my Evasion and popped a health pot to give the priest some respite. I hope he chugged a good pot!

Later I had to pop my Lesser Stoneshield Potion. I do alchemy and at this level the potion is a game changer. After this wore off I manged to drop threat momentarily. Was it a feint or maybe a succession of crits from the other rogue I don't know? But luckily I was able to bandage for several seconds before interrupted.

While this was going on the mage and priest (smite) were tasked with the pesky adds. The other rogue with dps and to take over from me when I vanished just before my HP ran out.

Towards the end I got one last heal from the priest (a huge one) and then that was it for him.

Neck and neck for diminishing HP, a race to the bottom. I threw a final Vanish but left it too late and was dead. The pally had been long gone, the mage too. The priest and remaining rogue finished him off.

A miracle fight. The ring drop was less than optimal for all although that 50 stamina is very nice for any class. So we all agreed to need, lol. A job well done by us all. An epic fight!

I have had so many epic battles in this dungeon. Fights just don't work like this in retail WoW, due largely to the skewing nature of heirlooms I suspect. This fight in particular will be one I long remember. Classic for the win!

(Yes the stoneshield has a 2 minute CD only so I should have started with it so a SECOND use could have occurred. Wiser in hindsight for sure. But in the heat of the moment this was what we spontaneously did, with the only plan being for the other rogue to take over from me as late as possible as we can only vanish once. We were desperately thinking on our feet, having wiped quite a few times that night)

Comment by Mikiw

This can be soloed in wrath classic.

Just click summoning stone wait littlebit.

Do not kill boss too fast. You need to kill adds that he summons at 75% and 50% and 25%. What i did was unequip weapons then hit boss to 75% killed few adds. Then hitted boss 50% and waited him to summon adds, killed them. Hit boss to 25 % kill 2 adds. Then kill boss. If you do it too fast then you will fail achievement have to reset instance and try again.

Comment by Shuvi

Very difficult in begin of P2 of SoD, because caster will always miss the boss.
We had a tank pala, heal priest and two hunter (and one boomie with almost no damage due to cast miss).

We activated the stone and pulled the boss right away out of the room one room above. It seems that you don't get the 4 small elite there. Every small add was taunted by the pets and be cleaved.
After around 20% he spawned the big elite adds that can be tanked by the pets so we're be able to finish the boss and get the quest for Thawpelt Sack.

Comment by Pekooda190519

Did it for 5 minutes with party:
Warlock Tank
Priest Heal
Arms Warrior(but it can be any other melee)
Feral Druid
Melee hunter
DPS composition is more important, than tank/heal
Mechanics:
- He spawns a Shadowforge Relic Hunter in spawn room(where we clicking stone) that run to us. They had low hp but high level, that can be easily kill a healer.
- In 33% he casting spell, that spawn 2 elite Stone Keeper in spawn room that also run to us.
- Periodically he stuns players who stay closer from him
How we kill him:
- We kited them to Obsidian Sentinel room(where mage quest and side portal).
- Healer stays behind party and further from boss(to avoid stun), so Shadowforge Relic Hunter can run through melee and easily be killed from melee.
- Party need to burst boss after 33%. If Stone Keeper came - that means wipe
- Tip for warlock tank: Use 10/21/0 build(Suppression, Improved Life Tap, 3/5 and Demonic Sacrifice), rune: , , , , . Sacrifise voidwalker. Get uptime Corruption, Curse of Recklessness and on boss.

We get two 14-slot bag from chest, not considering 14-slot bag from quest

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