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Comment by 8271

To Thrall, Grom was like a brother. Before the orcs went to sail to Kalimdor, Grom Hellscream was captured by the nearby humans. Thrall succenfully freed his friend back. Once he freed them Thrall assembled the horde and took off for the distant lands of Kalimdor. But when Grom and the Warsong Clan was building up lumber at the southern Ashenvale. A great druid stag name Cenarius, came and almost killed the Warsong clan. Grom found a mystical fountain and drank the demonic waters it possesed. He and the Warsong Clan then were suddenly much stronger. He and his Fel Orcs soon killed Cenarius. Thrall tried to get Grom back to his normal self, so he and the Humans teamed up and tried to make Grom to his normal self. They did successfully. After that they searched a great demon. Thrall was knocked out by the Pit Lord. But Grom sliced threw the demon and killed him, with his own life. He died saying to Thrall "I can feel the fire in my veins, I will live on like my ancestors."
I hope this information helped.

Comment by Krucifire

Fixed -- with some improvements

To Thrall, Grom was like a brother.
Grom Hellscream was the first Orc to drink the blood of Mannoroth fully enslaving the Orcs to Kil'jaeden.
Before the orcs went to sail to Kalimdor, Grom Hellscream was captured by the nearby humans. Thrall succesfully freed his friend. Once he freed them Thrall assembled the horde and took off for the distant lands of Kalimdor. But when Grom and the Warsong Clan was building up lumber in southern Ashenvale. Cenarius Demi-God of the Night Elves, came and attacked the Warsong clan. Grom found a fountain tainted by the blood of Mannoroth, knowing the powers it would bestow on him, he ordered everyone in his clan to drink from the water. He and the Warsong Clan then were suddenly much stronger. He and his Fel Orcs soon killed Cenarius. Thrall tried to get Grom back to his normal self, so he and Jaina Proudmoore put their mutual racial prejudice aside to help Grom ruturn to his normal self. They did successfully. After that they searched a great demon. Thrall was knocked out by the Pit Lord. But Grom sliced threw the demon and killed him, with his own life.

After Mannoroth's death, Thrall walks up to Grom laying, and dying on the ground.

Grom: "Thrall.... the Blood Haze has lifted... the demon's fire as burnt out in my veins"
Grom: *Dramatic Cough*..... *Cough*
Grom: "I... have freed... myself...." *coughs*
Grom Hellscream: *Grom Hellscream slowly dies...*
Thrall: "No old friend, you've freed us all."
Thrall Roars

Comment by fengas

How does Grom appear in WoW? is it some Quest line?

Comment by asole

Located in the southeastern part of Ashenvale, there stands a monument to Grom Hellscream, located presumably at the spot he was slain in the aftermath of Mannoroth's death. The exact coordinates are 82,78 and the inscription reads as such:

Here lies Grommash Hellscream, Chieftain of the Warsong Clan.

In many ways, the curse of our people began and ended with Grom. His name meant "Giant's Heart" in our ancient tongue. He earned that name a hundred fold as he stood alone before the demon Mannoroth - and won our freedom with his blood.

Lok'Tar Ogar, Big Brother. May the Warsong never fade.
- Thrall, Warchief of the Horde

Comment by 48835

Grommash "Grom" Hellscream was a Blademaster and chieftain of the Warsong clan, the only orc clan to evade capture between the second and third wars. He is one of the only two cheiftains from Draenor to have escaped to Azeroth (the other being Kilrogg Deadeye of the Bleeding Hollow clan) upon the Dark Portal's destruction.

Thrall sought out Grom, the only undefeated Orc chieftain, he took Thrall under his wing and taught him about his race, the orcs, instructed him in the Orcish dialect, and informed Thrall that he was a part of the Frostwolf clan.

His role in World of Warcraft is somewhat nonexistant, though he does have a role: Horde hero. In truth, he is the Horde's counterpart to the Alliance's greatest hero, Uther the Lightbringer. Grom was responsible for ending the demonic curse set upon them by Mannoroth the Destructor, and the resulting explosion of Mannoroth killed Hellscream. Hellscream's son, Garrosh, is the leader of the Mag'har, and I assume that Garrosh will follow in Grommash's footsteps and be named Chieftain of the Warsong Clan. Tributes can be made to Grom during the Harvest Festival (and his shrine can be visited at any time) by heading to Demon Fall Canyon in southeastern Ashenvale.

Comment by 108803

Lore:One of the orc Chieftains of legend. Prior to the creation of the Dark Portal, Grom Hellscream was the uncontested leader of the Warsong clan, marked by his slim build and black-tattooed lower jaw. Suspicions floated away the previous chieftain's death, giving rise to the notion that Grom usurped the position, rather then gain it though heredity like Durotan. Though he was stubborn, he was the first to give heed to the prospect of war when Ner'zhul warned the other clans of a "new old enemy", the Draenei. While his clan was spared the defeats of the Second Great War, he was used with effectiveness by Ner'zhul in the aftermath of the second war. His forces combined with that of the Bleeding Hollow clan led by Kilrogg Deadeye were used in strategic hit and run raids designed to retrieve some of Azeroth's most powerful magical artifacts.

Grom Hellscream is playable in missions of Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal. His clan is also clearly evident throughout the human campaigns. His missions in the Warcraft II expansion include destroying an order of Death Knights loyal to Mogor the Ogre-Mage.

Grom is one of a few heroes of the Orcish Horde that makes a reappearance in both the ill-fated Warcraft Adventures game and the Lord of the Clans novel which both roughly lay out the same story.

Grom also makes a few appearances in the short story Unbroken, by Micky Neilson, like during the sacking of Shattrath City by the Orcish Horde.

Revitalization of the Horde
With the destruction of their only passage home and the successful vanquishing of the orcish strike forces, Grom and the Warsong clan were forced into hiding in the wilds of Lordaeron. They eked out an existence on the edge of human civilization for nearly 15 years.

All of this time, Grom was forced to fight the demonic curse that had left him weakened and listless. Where other orcs gave into this malaise, Grom fought it to the end of his days. As the number of free orcs was diminished by conflict and old age, their situation looked more and more hopeless. The young and weak were unable to thrive in this harsh environment and the day of reckoning looked to be closing in on the Warsong clan.

Then Grom had a young Orc named Thrall seek him out. Inspired by Thrall's courage, strength and mercy, he accepted the young outcast and taught Thrall more of the ways of the orc nations. When the humans searching for Thrall got too close, Thrall left his side. He was given Grom's necklace as a symbol of the trust placed in Thrall by Grom.

The Warsong clan led by Grom was reunited with Orgrim Doomhammer and Thrall's lost clan, the Frostwolves. Battling against the Human internment camps surrounding the stronghold of Durnholde, the two clans set about freeing and reinvigorating the orcish nations.

While the orcish horde was looking for land to settle on in Lordaeron, they were instructed by the new Warchief Thrall to journey across the seas to the strange new continent of Kalimdor.

Invasion of Kalimdor
Grom standing on the body of CenariusWhen Grom began to again feel the twinge of the demonic curse, he proved unable to resist the sweet nectar it promised him. After attacking a human settlement at Stonetalon Mountain, disobeying direct orders from Thrall, he was given what was presumed to be an easy, out of the way mission to clear land and gather lumber for the new Horde's settlement. However, the night elves were angered when Grom's orcs began to cut down the trees in Ashenvale Forest and attacked without explanation. He received help from the goblin Neeloc Greedyfingers who gave him Goblin Shredders for killing a Furbolg. The Warsongs under Grom managed to successfully defend themselves and kill their attackers...but by doing so they caught the attention of the demigod Cenarius. Determined to avenge the deaths of the night elves who had fallen against the Warsong Clan and protect the forest from what he saw as further desecration, Cenarius attempted to slaughter the orcs. Cenarius appeared to know something of the history of the orcs and was convinced they were "demon-spawned wretches" who deserved only death. In an exchange with the demigod during one skirmish Grom vehemently told him that the orcs no longer served any demons, but Cenarius didn't believe him and continued his attempts to kill them all. The orcs quickly discovered that Cenarius was invulnerable to conventional attacks. Death at Cenarius' hands seemed inevitable.

One of the troll witch doctors accompanying the Warsong Clan told Grom he sensed strange energies nearby which might be able to aid them in defeating Cenarius. When Grom investigated he discovered a fountain of blood. This was the doing of the Pit Lord Mannoroth, who had originally enslaved the orcs after Gul'dan convinced them to drink his blood with promises of power. Mannoroth saw Cenarius as a formidable obstacle standing in the way of the Burning Legion, as he had been during the War of the Ancients. The demon poured more of his blood into the fountain on a suggestion from Tichondrius, hoping that the orcs would once again drink it and become sufficiently re-energized with demonic power to kill Cenarius. There was also another reason Mannoroth hoped they would partake of his blood....

When Grom brought his troops to the fountain, the witch doctor told him that he could sense that the fountain contained demonic energy. One of Grom's soldiers told him that if they drank from the fountain they would be going against everything they had been taught by Thrall. But to Grom these things did not matter. Desperate to preserve his clan from this new threat, Grom drank from the fountain and either persuaded or forced those under his command to do likewise. Driven again by the demonic energies, Grom attacked and destroyed the demigod Cenarius' forces. Even the demigod himself was no match for the enraged orc chieftain's demon-enhanced might.

After Cenarius fell, Mannoroth appeared. By drinking the Blood of Mannoroth once again, the Warsong Clan were once again susceptible to the vile Pit Lord's control. When Mannoroth told him this Grom was horrified, but that horror was one of his final independent thoughts before Mannoroth exercised control and turned Grom and the rest of the clan into his slaves, causing them to despise Thrall and the rest of the Horde and make war on them and the humans under Jaina Proudmoore, whom Thrall had since allied with.

Determined to save his old friend, Thrall confronted Grom after fighting through the corrupted Warsong clan. When he reached him, Grom told Thrall the horrible truth of the demonic curse. The orc clan Chieftains had willingly taken the bloodlust offered by the Burning Legion. They were not so much cursed as doomed by the willing choices made by their power-hungry leaders.

Thrall (with the help of Cairne Bloodhoof and his tauren) managed to capture Grom and bring him to Jaina, who worked with other magic-users from both her forces and Thrall's to perform a ritual that would free him from the Legion's control.

Grom Hellscream charges at Mannoroth Grom dying after vanquishing Mannoroth Redemption and death
Upon learning the truth, Thrall and Grom set out to hunt down Mannoroth, and located the vile demon in what is now Demon Fall Canyon in Ashenvale. Bellowing in rage, the Warchief struck out at Mannoroth with the Doomhammer, but the demonic leviathan shrugged off the at

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off the attack and stunned Thrall with a vicious counterattack. After being taunted by Mannoroth that they were the same, Grom charged him and sank his axe into Mannoroth's chest, shattering the breastplate and slicing through to the infernal heart of the demon. Mortally wounded, Mannoroth exploded in an inferno of flame...and Grom took its full fury alone. In a burst of hellfire, Mannoroth the Destructor was dead...

With nothing remaining of the pit lord but the shattered armor, Thrall made his way to where Hellscream lay in the dust. The crimson glow faded from his eyes; the blood curse which had damned his race for decades was finally over. With his best friend and Warchief at his side, the still-undefeated chieftain died at the site of his greatest triumph, both over the corruption of the Burning Legion and over the whispers of his own soul. With Mannoroth gone, the Legion's hold on the orcish race was forever shattered. Even those who had drank the blood of Mannoroth (willingly or otherwise) found that the curse had lifted, and that their souls were free from the shackles of demonic corruption. With that knowledge, Grom Hellscream left the mortal plane a redeemed spirit.

Legacy
Grom has become a center of heated dispute after his death. Hellscream is generally viewed in the Horde as a hero and a savior, who fought a constant battle with his inner self which ultimately culminated into the death of Mannoroth and the end of the Blood Curse on the entire orcish race. However, he was also the very first chieftain to readily agree and eagerly partake of Mannoroth's blood, and retake it once more in Ashenvale, which indirectly resulted in the death of the night elf demigod Cenarius. To the outrage of the night elves, the orcs refuse to claim responsibility for Grom's actions. It was not the orcs who killed Cenarius, but fel orcs, and it was the orcs who took it upon themselves to slay their wayward brethren. By taking responsibility for Grom's actions the orcs would be acknowledging that they are still the old Horde.

Nonetheless, despite Grom's two instances of self-chosen corruption, he still remains a cultural hero, and his death is honored every year by thousands of Horde citizens. The legacy of Hellscream continues to be the major dampener that prevents orcs and night elves from cultivating a cordial relationship.

Grom after consuming the Blood of Mannoroth.

Comment by 80899

Grom's weapon of choice was the axe Gorehowl ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28773 ). He threw it at the demon Mannoroth in his last battle before his death, sliced through the demon's chest armor right into his chest.
You can see the demon's armor in south-east Orgrimmar, in front of Thrall's headquarter as memorial for the day the orcs were freed from their demonic masters (kind of their "independence day" lol).

The axe drops off the demon Prince Malchezaar ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=15690 ) in Karazhan. It is unknown how he achieved it though. Due to the huge story behind this axe's wielder there was a lot of debate why this item is not legendary and stronger in stats.

Comment by brenthebli

Shouldn't he be a Mag'har? Because his son serves as the Mag'har military chief.

Comment by 153218

grom hellscream is like a brother of thrall plus he is stronger than mannoroth

Comment by 159454

If you look closely you can see that the Grom in the picture is see through.

Comment by 120680

If you wanna see an Replay of where Grom Hellscream kills Mannoroth, so go on Wegame.com/watch/grom_hellscream_and_thrall_kills_Mannoroth/

Comment by Thottbot

Is Grom Hellscream really in the game?

Comment by Thottbot

dunno lol

Comment by Thottbot

There is a Axe called Grom'Ogh the edge of hellscream (legendary) which is from something to do with grom, details havn't been released on it yet though.

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/view/1859.jpg is the axe on a beta server.

But this ver of grom hellscream is seen in a 'vision' that thrall projects in an ancient orc altar sort of area in the town of garadar in nagrand. completing all the quests in nagrand grants you access to a quest chain resulting in thrall paying a visit to his ancestral homeland and finding out being reunited with his grandmother. when he arrives in garadar, she asks him to go talk some sense into the current chieftain of the mag'har Garrosh, groms son, who feels that his father betrayed their people and has lived a life of shame because of it.

Thrall shows the epic encounter between himself, grom, and mannoroth and shows how grom defeated mannoroth and sacrified himself so that his bretheren may be free, which brings garrosh out of his stupor.

the whole thing is a little cinema-esque event that occurs in garadar where the earthen ring shaman are gathered around a glowing yellow spell circle on the ground.

Comment by Thottbot

http://thotbott.com/i28773 Thats groms axe

Comment by Thottbot

I thought Grom Hellscream is supposed to be dead.

Comment by Thottbot

In Nagrand there is a questline for the horde with an animation at the end of the battle between Grom & Thrall vs the pitlord Mannaroth, my guess is that's what this entry is about.

Comment by Thottbot

He sacrificed himself to save the orcs of coruption in the warcraft strigy games

Comment by Thottbot

Well dUh! =P

Comment by Thottbot

that game was fun

Comment by Thottbot

This was in one of the cinematics of Warcraft III, fwiw.

If you bought the Warcraft III Collector's Edition, you have the cinematic on DVD (a rendered movie of what Thrall showed on the ground in Nagrand).

Comment by Thottbot

He sure is, but he's not red, and he's all ghostish.

Made my own private server to see him, and i did :P

Comment by Thottbot

Erm...Thrall does'nt have a clan called "Orgrimars" his clan is the "Frostwolf clan",and BC?cairne is about 300 years old...

Comment by Thottbot

yeah half the tihngs earlycurly said were complete !@#$

first off manaroth came to the orcs because he was brought through the portal opened by kel'thuzad, along with archimonde.

he then remembered the orcs could help him in his battle against the humand resistance he was facing, and mannaroth had some kind of history with the orcs. History that involved him commanding them. but there was a mutiny ( we presume, little is truely told of it )

so he went and corrupted grom by making him drink from a fountain with mannoroths blood in it.

Thrall then cleansed grom with the help of Lady jaina Proudmoore.

They then went and had a large climactic battle with mannoroth, which yes, resulted in groms death and thralls near death experience, which he now @#$%s himself about everynow and then.

True story bout thrall $%^&ting himself.

Comment by Thottbot

in the 1st picture grom would look better with hes axe

Comment by Thottbot

NO NO NO archimonde made warlocks

Comment by Thottbot

just saying- groms real name is Grommash Hellscream- in orcish it meant Giants Heart in the orcs Ancient Tongue

Comment by Thottbot

where is grom hellscream's tomb stone located ? i want to check this place out. (70 orc) :P <3 orcs

Comment by Thottbot

does Grom Hellscream realy apear at ashanvale at harvest festivale?

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the history of the horde
grommash hellscream

the orcs wre first brought to this world by medhive the last gaurdian in opening the portal he allowed burning legion masterys of sargeras into the world aka the burning legion the leader of the legion kill'jaden (first chosen by sargeras) put archimonde incharge in his apsence as the legion were brought out they layed low watching these orcs

creation of the clans
an orcs history of grommash hellscream

the leader of the orcs was orgrim doomhammer the first warchief to the horde who had his 3 clans the blackrock clan (soon to fall under the legion) memorey of go'el (thralls real name) and the horde of orgrim (soon to be changed into thralls groupe)

the wars of azeroth
an orcs great historey

these 3 groups were heald at the gates of azeroth to chalenege theme and thier king (cousin to jaina proudmore) the orcs had a long 4 year war and ended with riping the population out and taking over azeroth with there base maintanied they learned of more humans in the area they traveled north to find a great city of lorderone there they faught for a 4 year war with a loss that scared theme graetly the king antonides uther lightbringer and genarel proudmore wa ted to counter strike the orcs they had incampments along the west shoar while in doing so of attacking the orcs of the memorey of go'el lead by a orc mogrin killed all of weak children and woman of admiral proudmores groupe (reason why there was tention beeteween admiral proudmore and thrall later on) in this war uther killed mogrin in hopping it would be a great setback unfortunatly for theme it was not and the orcs were victoriouse in the counter strike

the second war grommashes rise
an orcs great history

durotan (thralls father) consieved a child and named it go'el in name of his tribe said to be the new warchief by orgrim doomhammer and while the reproduction of the orcs they found that mogrin consieved a child in hopes of him bieng a great wariour he was named grommash hellscream with these 2 great births the orcs celebrated and soon after went to war they had a setback at the azerothian holds antonidas and uthers armys were awaiting theme after 3 years the orcs one the war and continued into lorderon at lorderon they were met and again lost (inote the lost because blackrock clan never showed) orgrim angered on why the blackrock clan diidnt show seperated theme from the great horde and a new clan was made the warsong clan to be said to be lead by great grommash wene he ages and for 19 years the wars stoped

the great devestation to the horde
an orcs great historey

after the frozen times of no war grommash was now 21 but go'el was only 14 they were best friends at a day of killing in caves admiriral proudmoure took go'el grommash outnumbred run to tell orgrim and the wheels of war went into motion yet again orgrim insulted gathered his 3 clans to attack again at lorderone after 4 years of war none one the war both wer eleft shattered as the clanes died out the skys burned and the legion came

a dark periode in the world
the end of the orcs?

after the war orgrim run wounded with wat men he had then mannoroth appeared to him trying to enslave his nation orgrims pride was to great he went into a rage and ttacked mannoroth only to die seconds later mannoroth discusted with the orcs killed remaining survivors the balckrock clan lead by ner'zhule faought against the legion and failled remaining with ner'zhule ran to azeroth to open a portal to the devestated lands but inside the devestated lands there was an explosion of ner'zhules power and he was left alive as he run far away he was soon trapped by the lichking and frozen in ice crown with this great devestation thrall (renamed by humans) was free and ran out to see memorey of go'el were still alive he cleaved and created a great nation of orcs soon to take over durotar in memorey of his father he took upon orgrims doomhammer and took his place as warchief

is grommash alive?
an orcs great historey

watever was left of the warsong clan grommash took upon himself to bring theme to safety he traveled into ashenvale and created splintetree and more the warsong clan traveled outwoords to find thrall and the orcs regrouping yet again together the orc nation lived on

ty for listining if u want to see more historeys just tell me i can either tell u more of this one after regrouping wat happend or i can tell u about the titans;the humans;the night elves;the burning legion;the undead

ty :D

Comment by Thottbot

I expected Grom to have the Warlords Battlegear

Comment by Thottbot

hmm... this is all very interesting, but i'm reading Lord of the Clans and for one, Thrall's parents never made it to the Naming Day when they would have named him. Durotan (thrall's father) and his wife went to see a great friend of Durotan's, Orgrim Doomhammer. because of a power hungry orc warlock, Gul'dan, Doomhammer was cautious of letting the outcasts (Durotan and his family from the FROSTWOLF clan, Thrall's favorite clan because he was born of it and his father was chief of) stay in his camp. Thrall's parents were led to a spot in the woods where they could make camp and were jumped by unknown attackers. i'm thinking they were betrayed by doomhammer, not sure. anyways. Thrall was left alive and UNAMED, when he was found a short time later by the human General Blackmoore, who enslaved Thrall (in the common tongue Thrall means "slave") and trained him to be a gladiator. this was also to help train his men to fight more proficiently so Blackmoore could start a coup against his leaders (always the power hungry). Thrall and Grom were never childhood friends. the only reason i found this thread is because Grom was just mentioned for the first time in the book when Thrall was taken captive again and taken to an orc concentration camp where another captive orc told Thrall the story of Grom resisting capture. I recognized the name, Grom Hellscream, from World of Warcraft, but didn't know where. Forgot i ran into his gravestone.

-Hommeverd, 54 Orc Hunter, Spinebreaker-

Comment by Thottbot

i play both wow and warcraft a lot! so wat REALLY happend was grom is/was thralls big brother and Mannoroth tricks grom and the warsong clan into becoming blood orcs again and then thrall fights (not to the death) with grom saving him and the warsong clan then grom realizis he was tricked so grom and thrall went after Mannoroth thrall got hurt grom got pissed and sacrifised himself to kill Mannoroth save his little brother thrall and the orcs. END OF STORY.

Comment by Thottbot

Ehm......... Iam not really in this but u talk about how the legion started..... Ok first when sargeras the titan found the ''eradar'' now dranei he offered powers to velen , kil'jaeden and archimonde but Velen didn't want to ''join'' his legion.... So that is how the burning legion started :s

Comment by Thottbot

Ohh, right one more thing ner'zhul never got traped by the lich king / frozen throne He was the first lich king you fool! Kil'jaeden offered him powers to and he opened some portal on draenor that exploded that world.... And then they created the lich king and like......... Gave ner'zhul the spot as lich king

Comment by Allakhazam

He is probably in some event in caverns of time

That's probably the case.

Comment by Allakhazam

well grom is not brought back to life, and to set you straight magtheridon never died. he was the ruler of outland, now imprisoned by illidan and used for his fel blood to corrupt more orcs into illidans sway. but thats besides the point.

grom hellscream is seen in a 'vision' that thrall projects in an ancient orc altar sort of area in the town of garadar in nagrand. completing all the quests in nagrand grants you access to a quest chain resulting in thrall paying a visit to his ancestral homeland and finding out being reunited with his grandmother. when he arrives in garadar, she asks him to go talk some sense into the current chieftain of the mag'har Garrosh, groms son, who feels that his father betrayed their people and has lived a life of shame because of it.

Thrall shows the epic encounter between himself, grom, and mannoroth and shows how grom defeated mannoroth and sacrified himself so that his bretheren may be free, which brings garrosh out of his stupor.

the whole thing is a little cinema-esque event that occurs in garadar where the earthen ring shaman are gathered around a glowing yellow spell circle on the ground.

Comment by Allakhazam

I really hope so... would be a real shame if they just brought him back to life just like they brought Magtheridon back.

Comment by Allakhazam

I wonder if in future patches he'll be ressurected Grom Hellscream is my hero :D

Comment by Allakhazam

i loved this hero in reign of khaos... but he is died fighting mannoroth so how can he be alive? omfg... and there are other mobs that are suposse to be in the game like Arthas or Anub'arak the fiend who helped arthas in northrend and they simply dont are in the game :s....

Comment by Allakhazam

He is probably in some event in caverns of time

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