I am not sure what people expect when the content is 15 years old and it has been out on PTR for almost 2 months. These guilds have probably done atleast 10 clears of both vashj and kael'thas on ptr before it hit live servers. It's like saying Sekiro is an easy game just because i have managed to complete it without any deaths after spending alot of time practicing. Even mythic bosses on retail would go down super quick if the top guilds had access for 10 weeks before release.
Nihilum sucked, end of story. You saw it in WoD with Kungen. The guy couldn't do anything in actual mechanically complex raiding. Also let's be honest, nihilum from back then would be steamrolled so hard now by these guilds it wouldn't even be a competition.
Man Blizzard P2 is already on farm, when's P3 already?
I'm saying that these players would get steamrolled because they'd never be able to square up to current competitive guilds in any way shape or form of any kind. People are just that much better even without accounting the private server experience, where bosses can have up to multiple times the retail bosses hp and still get killed quickly. Classic Nostalgy sniffers need to learn that. No amount of prenerf will ever bridge the gap in skill, you saw it in vanilla and you'll see it in classic wotlk aswell.
Impressive thing about Beef Bar is first that they bring 9 warlocks, out of the 25 people ; and second that they cleared all the trash, compared to Progress who skiped them with invisibility potions. Would Beef Bar have used invisibility potions too, they would definitely got the world first. The end in the Eye was really entertaining
You talk like it's not common knowledge that people sucked back in the day, everyone knows it. Vanilla/tbc was released during a time when minmax culture barely existed, people just played for fun. Obviously the tuning of the raids was made with that playerbase in mind.
Respect, Lady Vashj one of the hardest in all BC imo
It's to be expected. These guys were clearing this content on private servers for years. Except private servers actually buff and tune content to be way more challenging so this turns out to be even bigger joke than it is. Despite that congratulations are still in order, love it when the races are that close.
Wow this is so amazing it's like so new though.....
My guild will do it tonight. Stop sucking the fun out of the game with this speed meta BS.
This needs to be changed to server first, have yall forgot tbc already came out before? You're taking tittles away from people that did it when it was "hard" at the time. This isn't world first, world first happened January 16, 2007 for both raids.
lmao, right, that's, uh... that's nice for them I guess.
Wow people on here can moan and groan a lot. I agree should be Classic TBC 1st. At least I know I'm enjoying the nostalgia.
Nice to see Alliance guilds on the top list for once.