I really don't want see Arthas with a "rendemption". And this doesn't even make sense.Arthas chose to become a villain.We saw this in Warcraft 3, at the end of WotLK, this is described at the end of the book.He chooses to kill his human "conscience", and then NerZhul, to become one with the LK.Making Arthas a good guy is Blizzard ignoring COMPLETELY the story of the most iconic character in her games.õ.O
Steve "Nathanos" Danuser, AKA. The Simp.
@MaximusPM You know when I look at the lore today, I really do have to appreciate his story. It's cliché, but the way it's written was what resonated with audiences. Tragic heroes have been done a lot, so the way stories like that are written are key. Overrated maybe, but for good reason. However, I never like fanboyism/fangirls cause they always tend to ruin everything. I only hope this story does remain untouched.
@kaleestraza What I find funny is how you're calling it Arthas fangirlism, when at the same time you're doing your own for Ner'zhul. NZ was never obliterated, wtf is that all about? Suppressed is the term, and Arthas became the dominant personality of the lich king. He was still within the lich king, just the inferior half. Arthas then cast out his heart to abandon any remaining humanity, which at that point was weakness. He believed he was in control, it's not really a stretched out speculation that he could not be redeemed. Tirion noted this when he got a hold of Arthas's heart, but realized he was too far gone. Arthas at that point had his own agenda, he wasn't MC'd anymore.Now this new information, yes unless it's flat out stated that the jailor controlled Arthas it's nothing more than speculation. But remember, the Jailor is basically blizzard retcon information. But even without it, Arthas was considered to be independently evil for a few things:(1) He had no soul left. The dominant personality was the Arthas that lost his soul and his humanity. The light within him stayed his hand from annihilating azeroth, but it was a dwindling presence like NZ.(2): He had his own plan, not one created from elsewhere, for Azeroth. As he willingly spearheaded attacks on the Alliance and Horde, to recruit champions that would mirror his own journey and take leadership positions in the scourge.(3) Again, he believed he was in control. He no longer cared for his past self, saw it as weak and held him back from his true potential. Arthas was MC'd by NZ's influence through frostmourne up until he became the LK. Anything that has to do with the Jailor is just additional retconned information that may lessen Arthas as the ultimate villain (which I don't like) but ultimately doesn't change that overall premise that Arthas believed he alone would reshape azeroth of his own accord.
Yeah, Arthas and Variian are both becoming these two huge elephants in the room when talking about people we might meet in the Shadowlands. It seems thou that the elephants in question have had a positive effect on the lore discussion. We are again looking at these rather interesting stories but we are looking at them from a new angle and maybe expecting some new explanations to why things developed as they did. There is not such a strong element revisionism there due to the nature of the Shadowlands. As an example of this is the meeting of Thrall and Draka which I personally found rather moving.
I understand they want to "respect" Arthas' legacy, but I'm not exactly sure how they plan to do that by saying that an inferior, schlock tier, asspull villain turned him into a Duracell battery. OFF SCREEN.