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Comment by 7600

This is known as the actual axe of Grom Hellscream.

That other legendary axe which people are posting about is fake. *

* To those that didn't know, or don't remember, there was a screenshot of this very axe, however legendary in quality (orange-ish colored name) with much better (legendary, of course) stats. I believe this was pre-BC, or maybe early-BC.

Comment by 5661

Fairly comparable to others such as Gladiator's and Bloodmoon - and a great mass of stats, no doubt.

Lacking, however, for the weapon of such a legendary orc - in my opinion.

Comes from Karazhan.

Comment by 29183

I agree with Toker, IF they allow Icecrowne do become a new continent in the next expansion, and IF they make Arthas, or now "The Lich King" the end boss, Frostmourne should drop, and it would have to be extremely powerful, and as he already said, an Artifact. I am disappointed they did not buff Grom's axe a bit more, being that he slayed Mannaroth in a single blow. That statement however, credits Hyle in that: Grom was an extremely powerful warrior, and with HIS strength, he was allowed to slay Mannaroth... Among other things, my friends and myself have debated over the possible "Equip" effects of the sword Frostmourne. Will it have the Equip ability to currupt the user as it did Arthas? Or... with the slaying of the Lich King, will it just merely become a powerful melee 2hander?

Comment by Khane

Not sure why people feel Grom's axe should be legendary when weapons once held by legendary characters like ashbringer (in its current form) and Ashkandi are epics. The power was not in the weapons but the men who wielded them. I think this weapon is great as is

Comment by 17619

I find it very true that Groms axe should not be legendary.. His axe alone do not have Lore of its own.. Groms fury and power was the force that killed Mannaroth. Frostmourne however is another chase.. It has its own Lore and should by far be legendary if not more.. But i still consider if it should even be a drop.. Lore in warcraft 3 was that Arthas was loosing the battle, and almost all hope was out.. Then he finds Frostmourne, and the sword "ALONE" turn the tide of the batte.. Furthermore the sword turns Arthas agains his own heart..

Frostmourne is the single mightiest weapon ever..
Just for a sec, consider the CoH that weapon should have.. Even consider the dmg.. Nothing we know of at the moment should be even close to Frostmourne..

Groms axe dont have anything like this..
Hand of Ragnaros; well it was legendary because it was the ultimative weap at that time when we only had MC.. It was the very weapon of the mightiest boss we could face...

Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker; came with BWL, but history lagged quite a lot on that one; specally with the welp of a boss you have to fight in the end..

Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian; The staff of the last guardian, wich included both AQ, Naxx, Argent Dawn and Stratholme.. Story goes it was the greatest staff of all.. Worn by the last guardian of Azeroth.. He was possed by the very Dark Titan Sargaras, the sworn enemy of the univers.. His staff was shattered and 40 pieces was in Naxx, 1 more from KT and last was from C'Thun in AQ.. It was a great story.. One of a kind..

All had great stories but Groms axe cannot be compared with thise..

Comment by 33684

The way I see it, for 2 handers:

Honor Reward Weapons < Tier 1 Smithing Weapons < Gorehowl < Tier 2 Smithing Weapons = Gladiator's Weapons < Tier 3 Smithing Weapons

Comment by Protagonist

Stats in 2.1 patch:

345-518 damage
119,9 DPS
49 Strength
43 Agility
51 Stamina

Argueably better than the tier 2 blacksmithing weapons

Comment by 52618

If the sword of Lothar and the hammer of Arthas aren't legendary weapons, it makes perfect sense that this shouldn't be legendary either.

I still wonder how it ended up in Karazhan though.

Comment by 54135

Comparing this with Mooncleaver for lovers of axespec, the main difference is the stamina.

Mooncleaver has more damage and about 1% more crit. Gorehowl has stam, and also over 1% dodge from the agil. AP bonus is nearly the same.

Comment by 56599

Why this axe is better than you think in PvE. Its a pure stat weapon, which means the strength, agility and stamina are all effected by blessing of kings. Which means if your in a half decent 25 man raiding guild, the stats on this weapon are always going to be 10% better in a raid. Pretty nice imo. Where as Mooncleaver has no pure stats on it what so ever.

So yeh they are pretty similar, but im taking Gorehowl for when i get my TK attuments done and can finally get back to 33/28 spec :) as i am no a blacksmither.

Comment by archanfel

Best looking 2H axe hands down.

Comment by 65698

If you have WC3, complete the orc campain and watch the cinematic of Thrall and Grom at the end, you can see the axe Grom has looks exactly the same.
im glad blizzard have kept it the same, brings more of a history to the axe for Wc3 players.

Comment by 54798

Great overall option for an Arms warrior who didn't take up Blacksmithing. It's too bad they didn't keep the Legendary version of Grom's axe though. Hahaha, I would have loved to see a warrior chopping up "squishies" with it.

Here's the link again: http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/view/1859.jpg

Comment by 63626

Well, legendary or not, this weapon rocks. Got it last night and I am now a happy Shaman. I can get 3-3.5K Windfury hits, and I am Resto (0/11/50) specced, lol. I wonder what kind of damage will it do when I'll spec Enhancement...

Comment by 59219

I just lost the roll of this to a hunter (I am a MS Warrior)
What do you think, isn't Sonic Spear better for a hunter than this?

Comment by Itharius

As an enhancement shaman, I was also outrolled on this by a hunter on the basis that I didn't need it for PvE. He was "upgrading" from a sonic spear. -.-

Strength is a really important stat for hunters, I've heard.

Comment by 45398

Drops off Prince Malcheezar in Karazhan, This is by far one of the best 2h weapons for a dps warrior untill you start raiding 25 mans, and is still better than some 25 man 2h weapons, such as pit of the glaive.

Comment by 23254

our guild currently has 2 teams running Kara clearing to prince every week. For 10 man's rolling is fine, but i always have it set to master loot, so that if a situation like that one arises i can make the judgment call and give gear to the class that can best utilize it.

granted Kara is a raid situation, but if your guild operates like it should, i.e. a group of friends enjoying a video game and working toward a common goal, then in a 10 man instance rolls should be fine. It helps if the raid leader isn't an idiot and leaves it on Group loot so huntards can roll on warrior gear.

Comment by 83875

i will agree this is not the axe that a hunter should get first roll on a enhancment shammy pallyor warrior would find much better use but if noone wants it or what they have is better then i think a hunter should get this first strength increases your total damage output and agility directly increasesyour critical chance percentage and attack power (the ratio i believe is 1 agility= 1 attack power) and stamina increases your total health by 510 and ahunters pet by a small amount ( not sure how much) therefore this would be a great hunters weapon if a melee class did not need it

Wolfkingz 70 hunter Hydraxis Server Alliance

Comment by Arideni

This axe is terrible for hunters. If you're a hunter and your guild is doing Karazhan, if you do not have a Sonic Spear (or one like it) then you aren't doing your part for the team in Karazhan. You need to step back, go do the 5 mans and get some +hit items, because you're not likely helping as much as getting "Carried"

Simple as that, the Hit on Sonic Spear will help you a helluva lot more than STR on Gorehowl...oh, for pvp? Go do arena and get an arena weapon, or you can always just take loot "by default" and be carried =/

Comment by 84159

Seriously not a hunter weapon. Gives a huge 43 RAP.

Go farm SL for Sonic Spear, buy your HH/Thrallmar spear or hope Legacy drops. Any of them are much better IMO.

Comment by Faunus

I haven't seen a weapon in the game that looks better overall than Gorehowl with a mongoose enchant.

It's a real attention getter in BG still, even with 25man gear running around.

Comment by 70401

Yes , Shamans CAN USE Gorehowl just as long as they do their talent points on Enhancement for Two-Handed Axes and Two Handed Maces Talent.

Comment by 20243

Got this as a level 70 Hunter, and no, it isn't comparable to sonic spear, which you should have by the time you hit karazhan. Me stupidly thinking 'oh look, it has more agi than sonic spear' is a bad way to compare.. only managed to justify it now by paying for an agi enchant, which just about make it the same (my +hit rating being fine anyway). If I could go back and change time, I'd throw it to a shammie every time.

Comment by Tyrion

Stam over ap? Lol. I guess thats why you sacrificed 80 ap for 3 agi....

Im a survival hunter as well, and by no means is 3 agi (.87 ap per physical ) worth the 80 ap on Legacy.. unless you're suggesting your kara now has 92.75 physical dpsers? (Slightly less if there are dual wielders); Not to mention the mp5 of Legacy puts it that much further ahead.

(Sorry if this seems like a flame, I'm just strongly hoping hunters wont take this axe unless 1. they somehow are very unlucky on getting sonic spear or legacy or 2. Nobody else can take it and your guild doesn't need voids :P (Because this axe looks sweet)

Comment by gazhkull

One thing to consider in comparisons with other two-handed axes of similar dps is that Gorehowl confers a mass of basic attribute bonuses which can be further enhanced by a Paladin's Blessing of Kings as opposed to secondary attributes like AP, crit rating, etc. which remain static.

Comment by 102378

According to that i think:1)His axe was 2Handed {If we see the scene that put it at Mannoroths Heart we will see he put it with 2 Hands}2)Some say that this axe must be burned from the demonic fire then the Mannoroth die but it wasn't infected.{The Grom throw the axe down and the fire of explosion hit his body not the sword}3)The axe was long and got and angle if we see the scene and the Graficals of the Game.4)Some say that this axe giving immune to fear,stunt........but this is impposible the power was coming from grom power.5)EVER THE PRODUCTERS TELL IT THIS.

Comment by Marouka

How does this compare to Mooncleaver for a MS / Flurry warrior?
And what enchant should I save up for? Executioner is what I am looking at. Many still tell me to go for Mongoose and some still say to go for Savagery. What do you people say?
I do lots of arena and pvp. I raid often but care about PvP more.

Comment by camarouge

Tonight marked a moment in history for my guild; we downed the Prince for the first time. This sweet little thing dropped to make it all the more worthwhile.

Now, I am a retribution pally, and I cannot decide between either this or https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28429. But since this axe has an abundant chunk of stamina, I think it has a pre-destined use in at _least_ PvP...

Comment by Phioner

Better than gladiator's bonegrinder (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28299) for a shaman. Tho gladiator's item is maybe easier to obtain in patch 2.3.

Comparing (stats this gives to shaman):

Gorehowl

98 ap
510 health
1.72% crit and dodge

Gladiator's bonegrinder

64 ap
480 health
1.59% crit
1.27% hit

So gorehowl gives you:

+34ap
+30 health
+0.13% crit
+1.72% dodge
-1.27% hit

You can make yourself the decision, but I would personally go for gorehowl.

Comment by 100447

what about Gorehowl X Hammer of the Naaru for enhancement shamy??? this ap and some +crit is good, but Naaru has 2xRed and 1xBlue sockets....it seems Naaru overrock Gorehowl for pvp?

Comment by 71213

i lost this to our hunter (i am off tank and ms on weekends). it *!@#es me off.

Comment by Strye

Comparing Gorehowl and Glaive of the Pit (in Warrior/Ret Paladin terms):

Gorehowl:

49 STR = 98 / 107.8 Attack power = 7 / 7.7 Increased DPS - a raw 127.7 / 128.4 dps.
43 AGI = 1.303/1.72 Crit, 86 armor, and 1.433/1.72 Dodge.
51 STA = 510 HP

Glaive of the Pit:

3x Red Gem slots.

Anywhere from 24 STR to 12 STR / 12 Crit Rating- there's a broad spectrum of how you can flex this weapon.

24 STR = 48 / 52.8 AP = 3.42 / 3.77 DPS - a raw 123.12 / 123.47 DPS
4 Crit Rating = .1695 % to Critical Strike.

*2 PPM on 3.7 = 12.33% chance to deal 283-315 Shadow damage / Heal per hit. *

Over 60 seconds- 10 Crusader Strikes, 16.2 White Swings, ( 16 x .43209 ) = 6.91 Seal of Command.
10+16.2+6.91 = 33.11 x .1233 = 4.082 x 285-315 = 1163.5 - 1285.83 DPM / 60 = 19.3916 - 21.4305 DPS (!!) x .95 (5% resist) 18.422 - 20.359 DPS = AVG 19.3905 DPS and 96.95 hp5

I'm not a math genius but I think that's technically correct.

SO

Gorehowl - 127.7 / 128.4 Final DPS + 510 HP + ~1.5% Crit.
Glaive of the Pit - 142.51 / 142.86 Final DPS + 97 hp5 + Very Minor Crit

And Glaive has higher Top-End.

I pick Glaive for PvE thanks.

Comment by Jickles

Why would a shaman choose gorehowl over a bonegrinder? They're both obviously only viable in pvp, 2h dps is terrible for pve. The resilience on the Bonegrinder is more than worth it.

Comment by Orvisand

Even though there are better weapons than this, most Orc Warrior would most likely wanna keep this for the lore.

Comment by robinhood36

I have this on my Holy Paladin enchanted with +20 haste rating just to make warriors die a little on the inside.

Comment by 126756

I rly like the stats for the Legendary version...makes me drool...yah if Gorehowl didn't have such an epic description/legacy then I wouldn't care but I think this would be much cooler as legendary.

Comment by 146568

It's rubbish if you say a hunter should pass this axe, in my opinion.

I am a hunter myself, and if I would get the chance to roll on this weapon, I would gladly roll need. It's not about the stats, since I would hardly use it in normal raids/dungeons/whatever else, but it's because this axe once belonged to one of the greatest warriors in the whole orcish history. I'm a great warcraft fan, so if someone ever notices a person like me rolling need on this, the fact that it's an monumental axe would be a good reason.

Enough said, lets do Karazhan!

Comment by Aarpia

This dropped recently for my run. Had a retri pally and a hunter beg for this, I gave it to the pally without even giving the hunter a chance to roll. The hunter was %^&*ed, til the rest of the guild pointed out that it sucked for him. The retri pally was, however, VERY happy.

Comment by 104455

If your a shaman stick with 2 1h weapons,why else do you think that Blizzard Entertainment made it that shamans can dual-weild?

Blizzard Also made that shamans can use 2h maces and axes. I'v seen some pretty nice dps with 2h PvE, though 1h's Will Win.

On the other hand, 2h shaman is PvP gold, aswell as 1'hs, Many guilds give their MainTank a large shiney axe purely for the purposes of PvP...

Ofcourse, if someone who could benefit from having it in PvE i would let them take it, But if it outranks their current weapon, i will give it to Someone who is in need of a PvP weapon and would make good use of it.

Comment by 156171

Have not many people noticed, that it's one of the few items that look just like their icon.

Comment by 74126

who ever said Grom was Thrall's older brother is retarded. Grom was like a big brother to Thrall.

Comment by 154643

a very wise thing to do is to give this to a retri paladin since they only can do dps with a 2h and the warriors/shammans can dual-weild so if they have 2 pretty nice 1h:s give this to a pally FFS

Comment by Allakhazam

OMFG, Hellscream's axe! Hmm, how did Malachezzar get it, lol? Still, this is a warr weap. Hellscream was a warrior and paladins should wield 1h or 2h maces. Shamans should need this only if there is NO OTHER WARRIOR IN THE PARTY!
All in all, nice axe :D

Comment by Allakhazam

For all you &*!@#$%s and Shammys, this is strictly an Arms warrior/Pally weapon. Although it SHOULD primarily go to an arms warrior since hell put out more dps with it BUT by all means the retadin will benefit too (Before you all go "LOL RETADIN?" I personally now a retadin with this weapon, and he rapes FACE. Tops the Dps charts in 25-mans. The "LOL RETADINS" you're thinking about are the 8 yr olds who think they're "The fury" when all they do is slam their heads on their keyboards) . Hell, I'd even like this baby on my fury warrior just as a PvP toy and cause it looks so damn cool! Back to my main point, Melee weapons should go to melee classes. Hunters, there's way better options for you out there and I advise you to stay away from this weapon, cause you might get /Gkick'ed, besides, you can always keep trying to legacy which is sooooooo much better of a hunter weapon. As for you shammy's, well....obviously if a warrior/pally doesn't want it then let the hunter have it if he doesn't have legacy, and if the hunter has legacy, REJOICE! For you've won a useless 2h that you'll probably never use because you're either resto to heal or DW for enhancement. Suck it up and eat face, that's the truth.

Comment by Allakhazam

I got this for my Shaman... YAY

Comment by Allakhazam

I am surprised it's not a legendary item. Still, it looks awesome and has great stats. Can't wait to get one for myself!

Comment by Allakhazam

I dont see why orcs should be happy with this now that the weapon skill has gotten the nerf tbh.

Same goes for humans on maces/swords ofc.

+5 skill = 0.04 x 5 = 0.2% crit more or less.
Big deal ;/

Still the axe owns HARD.

Comment by Allakhazam

Yet another 2h weapon added to my shamans collection.

Comment by Allakhazam

Trust me, as an enhancement shaman, I love the stats and dps as much as anyone, but to put the axe of Grom Hellscream in the game and not as a legendary item is terrible. This axe is going to be seen a lot, and frankly I don't want to see 20 people with Gorehowl.

Comment by Allakhazam

holy cow !
war-orcs are going to be very happeeeeeeeeeeeeee
maybe it will become a legendary item later...
or maybe Grom had more than 1 axe in his ... err... bag?
time always tell

Comment by Allakhazam

All that posted that his item is fake are noobs NOOBS!If you all have Warcraft 3 or Warcraft 3 The frozen throne watch the movies from there where Gromhellscream and Thrall fight Magtertion or some think his is called and see the axe its the same as this one that the dude posted the image this item is Real and i want to get it with my warrior my orc.BTW i am a Hellscream fan!

Comment by Allakhazam

HUNTER WEP

Comment by Allakhazam

This sucks for Hunters, as Strength is pretty useless to hunters if the tank is doing his job right. Might be good for PVP Hunters, but then again, there are weapons u can get from PVP rewards that are alot better. As for Enhancement Shamans, their ideal setup is dual-wielding, isn't it?

Should be Retri Paladins and Arms/Fury Warriors rolling for this, primarily. Then Hunters/Shamans (if they REALLY want to).

Comment by Allakhazam

Lol, Lothar was nothing thats why his weapon is for lvl 60 but this is retarted putting Hellscream's axe in as an epic and for lvl 70 no less i hope blizzard will make a quest to upgrade this or im gonna be pissed.

Comment by Allakhazam

hey guys i have a 70 shaman as well as a 62 warrior. This axe is good for both classes but in no way should it always go to a warrior. i only read about half way down the post until everyone was making fun of ret pallys or w/e they were doin. I did read something saying about how bad it was that a enhancement shaman rolled on this over warriors, i honestly dont think this was a ninja in any way at all. Warriors should get no right to have this over a shaman as it is great for both classes. It gives the same AP, the same health and the same armor/crit and all else that agi gives. if a warrior ever yelled at me for rolling need on this (which my guild uses master loot) i would not let them kick me because i would leave before they could.

PS: I joined a raiding guild just a few days ago and they agreed that they would let me go back to enhancement once they found some more healers, they also agreed that once gorehowl were to drop they would give it to me, over all other dps warriors in there.

Edited, Nov 13th 2007 8:47pm by ZilkDS

Comment by Allakhazam

This can go for both warriors and retribution-paladins. Why not? Because "pally cant dps a shut lolwut y u dpsing?"? If thats what you think, start a paladin, retribution. Paladins can DPS just fine. And this axe gives them the stats to do it. Works for shammies too.

Of course, this weapon is excellent for warriors as well. Don´t go around posting bull&*!@ like "this ONLY goes for warriors/paladins/shamans". You will never agree anyway. Just simply agree that it can go for all three classes and that´s the end of it.

And yes, I agree that a hunter will have no fair reason whatsoever to need on this when a paladin/shaman/warrior is rolling for it.

Btw, lore says that Grom Hellscream was a blademaster. What? A blademaster with an axe?

Comment by Allakhazam

http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/legendary-axe-id1859/

mos likely a fake but still

Comment by Allakhazam

Why give it to some gimped warrior when a paladin could use it?

Comment by Allakhazam

Paladin weapon

Comment by Allakhazam

Great axe to throw some lore into the mix. A weapon in Hellscream's name is something a lot of people are going to want, nice stats and DPS/speed. Could use some sockets though, I think.

Comment by Allakhazam

dropped for us and shaman got it, no warrior in raid.

Comment by Allakhazam

Got it tonight, and I msut say it kicks ass!

Comment by Allakhazam

http://s179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/scared5/?action=view&current=gorehowlsmall.jpg

Kind of a small pic, took a screen of our nightbane kill and one of our dps warriors had it out so I just cropped it up.

Comment by Allakhazam

As a shaman im pretty lucky to have both of these weapons (Gorehowl + Decapitator), and now the debate, what is better dps, dual wielding Decapitator and an offhand from arena (88.5dps or sumthin). with gorehowl it goes from getting 7.1k wf crits (all 3 hits critting with Gorehowl) to 3.4k wf crits (all 3 hits critting with Decapitator)

Comment by Allakhazam

as an enhancement shaman i reaaaaally wanted this when i dropped i could help but need, i won (woot!),the dps warriors weren't too happy, i got kicked from guild, i found another better one, the point? shamans if you need an item ROLL FOR IT

Comment by Allakhazam

The buffs it got on the PTR make it pretty sweet now. My friend made a PvP video with it that looks pretty sweet:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mDsCUOGCS0&mode=related&search=

Comment by Allakhazam

Gorehowl has been buffed (and very rightly so) to a status that makes this, old, epic version pale in comparison.

It is legendary, with the tooltip "Still dripping with Mannoroth's blood" - Awesome!

Can't find pic right now though, will link when I find it again. =)

Comment by Allakhazam

i want that wpn!

Comment by Allakhazam

anyone got a picture of this axe?

Comment by Allakhazam

Need this 4 my Enha Shammy, 37 Agi on 2H Axe is GREAT 4 me!

Comment by Allakhazam

Come 2.1 this axe is gonna be buffed to mooncleaver's level (which is also gettinb buffed); pretty much all kara weapons are being buffed to be on the same level as season 1 arena/second stage BS weapons.

Comment by Allakhazam

Got this for my Shaman... YAY!

Comment by Allakhazam

As a Holy Pally, I rolled against an MS warrior who happened to be in our group. It was a substantial upgrade for him, but I just wanted to see what this would look like with +40 spell damage.

Eat it sucka Warriors!

But since I don't like 2 handers, I Disenchanted it the next day after I got bored with it.

Comment by Allakhazam

This would acctually be a viable pally retadin weapon. It has a slow attack speed and high dps. So yeah this weap isn't only for a warrior.

Comment by Thottbot

this is a very nice axe and nothing 4 hunters. (i�m a hunter)
This mighty weapon of one of the greatest heros of warcraft looks identic to the drawings and cinematic arts of groms axe...
i think this axe should be a little bit stronger...it�s one of the first weapons out of the warcraft history in game...a masteraxeshmith axe shouldn�t challange it.

sorry 4 my bad english ;)

<= waiting 4 weapons of historical characters

Comment by Thottbot

Grom Hellscream was no bloody hunter.

He did not have a pet neither did he wear a shield. He didn't cast no spell nor hid behind some $%^&* magic bubble.

Grom Hellscream was a warrior, who slew an elf god and a great demon. He freed himself of the blood rage by pure brute strength.

Pay a little respect and let this axe go to warriors worthy of it.

Comment by Thottbot

i really wonder how selfish and dumb some of you hunters can get. why even want this when you can get a better weapon with a simple quest reward like Terokk's Quill or Sonic Spear from Shadow Lab. Gorehowl is a waste on a hunter, even for the hunter.

Comment by Thottbot

I got pwned by an orc with this in WSG , he really did it proud, was running around destroying everything while carrying the flag (ala hulksmash).

3200 MS crit on my plate , ouch.

Comment by Thottbot

Lol this is hilarious...most everyone here is yelling at invisible people who havent even said things like "hunter weapon". As a hunter myself, this thing is crap for us. (to make things clear)

Comment by Thottbot

Why does Prince Malchezaar even possess this axe?

Comment by Thottbot

To all hunters:

You are ^&*!@#ed if you bid on this weapon. What are you gonna do with it? Wing clips for 300 dmg instead of 200? Raptor Strikes for 800?
Seriously, learn to play your class. If you truly want to use this weapon, roll on another class cuz this ain't for you.

To all guild masters:

You are #$%^&*ed if you allow a hunter to outbid in dkp or take this item over a warrior, paladin or shaman. If the paladin or shaman are ok with their intellect, they should be able to take this, no questions asked.

Note: Hunters, if you dont like Rogues / Fury Warriors taking your ranged weapons for dps ( loads of attack power / crit rating / hit rating ), please respect them by not trying to take their melee weapons.

Note #2: With the expansion, the stats on the hunter are shared by a small % with the Pet, but even that is not worth to allow a hunter to take it.

I have a hunter and i would NEVER roll on this weapon.

Jesus Christ, it's always the same damn discussion.

Comment by Thottbot

Alright, Here is how it works, To set the record straight, I will now go through all four classes, one by one.

Hunter: A bad hunter, usually, will argue that they can use ANY weapon. I've seen hunters roll on an ASHBRINGER, because he said he needed a good melee weapon for PVP. Alright, This is utter BS. Hunters, name the last time you were dumb enough to get close to that warrior and his cleave of deathness? Exactly, you cant. Send in the pet, Run away, Set trap, run away, And blast them all the while. If you EVER use your melee weapon, Its for a wing clip, or somthing similiar. True, your pet can share a small portion of your stats, and TRUE, this weapon has some +agi...But face it. This is a weapon for either, Majorly, A paladin or a warrior, warrior being the majority.

Shaman: Yes, you can use it. And, If you're the only one in your group who wants/needs such a thing, More power to you my friend! The truth is, though, I've never grouped with a shaman who uses a 2H weapon, let alone a 2h axe. Its always dual wielding for better stats and DPS, stacked with your totems for 1vs1 manhandling. A 2h axe, Other than for looks, just isn't much good for you.

Paladin: A retribution spec paladin, With enough int on their plate gear, could feasibly roll for this. A level 70 paladin with a 93.2 DPS weapon, And Avenging Wrath up, Can easily score judgement ratings from righteousness or command for 500+, Crits of 2.4k+, And if the enemy is demon or undead, Consistently more with holy attacks thrown in. Crusader Strike, Of course, is another of the melee paladins abilities. A good ret paladin, with 300+ strength, A good 7+k of mana, Could easily wield this as a competent DPSer, both in battlegrounds, and in any dungeon in outlands or Azeroth. I say this playing a 70 ret paladin. But, I also say this. The priority 1 for this weapon is, and always will be, a warrior.

Warrior: Here we have a class that is made for two things. 1, Taking damage. 2, Dealing Damage. In a battleground, The warrior cuts them down and maintains a healthy amount of player hate (Aggro) By killing everyone he sees in a maddening rage. In a group, The warrior maintains threat level by dealing damage, stacking bleeds and sunders, clipping speed and attack, And, overall, Hammersmashing their enemies into oblivion. Hunters are right out on this. Shamans, For the most part, have no need for it. A paladin without a BS mastery, Could very feasibly use this as their endgame weapon. But this blade will ALWAYS be a warrior priority, At least until level cap is increased again. After all. When I'm healing myself due to two crits, bubbling the priest, And offtanking the adds, I want the single strike the warrior manages to land on that charging, Somehow aggroed mob to be enough to piss it off completely enough that I dont end up dead a second and a half later.

Comment by Thottbot

Between all this "omfg <insert class> wpn tbh lol l2p n00bs" spam I tought we might have a class in lore of warcraft.

This axe, Gorehowl was the axe of Grom Hellscream
of the Warsong clan. Those of you who have playd Warcraft III already knew this but however:
Grom used this axe when he defeated the mighty
pitlord, Mannaroth. The battle was his last
as he died pretty much instant after he killed him.
By killing Mannaroth Grom Hellscream freed the orc race from the Demon blood curse that had corrupted the orc race for years.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8648/gorehowlya5.png
Picture from WC III sorry about the poor quality :)

now you may continue your ever-lasting arguing about this &*!@ty weapon for all I care.

Comment by Thottbot

Im a hunter and i got this since no1 wanted it.

I have to say from ice barbed spear with 35 agi.. i put a savagery on this and i gained about
+210 hp
+40 MAP
- 35 ap
- .40% crit
+ 500 more dmg on my raptor strikes.

I tell you its awesome for PVP for a hunter.. nothing better then 3.5k aim shot followed by a 2.5k multi to have a mage blink into u for a nice taste of 2.5k gorehowl.

But under no circumstances should us hunters take this over a warrior or pally or shaman. Ever

i simply took it because no1 wanted it and i was curious for pvp.

So hunters

if NOOOO1 wants it.. take it for pvp.. its godmode.

Comment by Thottbot

Dude, all of you need to stop the arguement of why Prince Malchezaar has come to own Gorehowl.

Let's just say that Gorehowl dropped and he had enough DKP.

Comment by Thottbot

I cant undertand why blizzard wont make legendary weapons legendary, this weapon freed the entire orc race... Grommash Hellscream's axe

Comment by Thottbot

Pri 1 - Warriors (arms spec and savagery enchant, not mongoose)
Pri 2 - Pallys
Pri 3 - Enhanc shaman
Pri 4 - Hunters (go for Legacy, a meele hunter is a dead hunter)

Paladin DPS is like the female orgasm. Some claim it's a myth, many try to make it happen and have no idea how, and most movies of it are fake.

Comment by Thottbot

imo this a bad hunter wep

Comment by Guruharu

Good source of void crystals. Wish something actually useful would drop from Prince, though.

Comment by avazus

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Gorehowl

	Phase 1

Item Level 125
Binds when picked up

Two-Hand	Axe

345 - 518 Damage	Speed 3.60

(119.86 damage per second)
+49 Strength
+43 Agility
+51 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120

Requires Level 70
"The axe of Grom Hellscream has sown terror across hundreds of battlefields."

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