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Comment by 12333

This is Tier 1 of the Axesmithing two-handers.
The attack power and crit are more than that of the Macecrafting and Swordsmithing tier 1 weapons (similar to the sword).
Lack of stamina make it worse than the Thunder maces for PvP.
Depending on the proc rate of the Lionheart Swords, this may be a better option for solo / PvE dps.
In any case, this line is the best for Orcs with the +5 axe skill racial (which will probably be buffed).

Tier 2 -> https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28435
Tier 3 -> https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28436

Comment by 23482

I chose this over the Lionheart Blade mainly because of the much easier to farm materials.

Here's a quick recap of how to get the mats:

12x Primal Air
Farm this mob: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=22310

12x Primal Earth
This is ridiculously easy. Any miner should have loads of motes of earth from mining.

4x Primal Might
If you have friends/guildies who can do the transmute for you, it's a 1 day cooldown. Just farm the motes yourself, it's not too difficult. Since you should already have plenty of Primal Earth and Primal Fire from mining, you just need the Mana, Water, and Air. I find I get an average of 1 Primal per 10 minutes of farming if I farm in the right spots.

Also, depending on prices of the primals on your server, it may be cheaper to just sell a few primals for 25-40g each, and buy a Primal Might off of the AH straight up.

22x Eternium Bar
Again this is something that as a miner you should already have saved up. I had 17 of these when I hit level 70, and I just bought the other 5 off of the Auction House for relatively cheap.

If you need to farm them, try Nagrand and look for Adamantite/Rich Adamantite Veins.

Comment by 18830

This is seriously nice hunter PvE weapon tbh.

Already seen one hunter on my server with it, and the mats doesn't seem too hard to get really.

Comment by 28474

Something that should be noted about the Epic upgrading two handed axe (or the other epic weapons) for master blacksmithers, the attack speed. Being a Orc warrior makes me extremely happy. With alot of my attacks being instants (or at least the ones i spam) the high end damage is a thing Arms warriors should be dreaming of. The crit and attack power just stacks on to a warrior that should have nothing less than 20% crit at 70. Deep Wounds + Blood Frenzy + Lunar Crescent = A happy toon.

3.7 looks to be the slowest attack speed in BC. Yes, I used to rock the Arcanite Reaper (in the good old days) that had a 3.8 swing speed. I <3 WoWhead.

Comment by 26181

Don't underestimate this as a hunter weapon either, I get upwards of 2k critical strikes on Mages and Priests with ease.

Comment by 30611

I´m very happy with this weapon but i think the úppgraded version should have another attribute like strength or stamina. Maybe even a Chance on hit: wounds the target for X damage over X time?

Comment by Ancient

This soon will be mine..

Comment by Caelir

Cannot wait to get my hands on this one, 1 more level and some farming to do.
IMO this or the Mace is about the best Warrior pvp weapon there is, upgraded it comes close to the gladiator weapons, and you can spend points on the armor ^^

Comment by 21874

I just crafted this axe for my orc warrior and I must say it was well worth the 4 days of grinding. I started from a fresh level 1 blacksmithing & level 1 mining, too. If you're considering to do the same, with your level 70 toon (or even plan at a lower level) it's very easy to do so, especially with the TBC expansion-now gaining the Axesmith crafting ability is as simple as speaking with the NPC only, you no longer need to run BRD (unless you want the plans for the Dawn's Edge).

As for the mats, if you are a miner you'll easily farm the Eternium Bars (obviously), the Primal Earth x 16, and Primal Fire x 4 (if you choose to go with the Primal Might transmutes vs. purchasing them) just while you're mining in the Outland. As for the other mats, you can grind them by using Wowhead's awesome reference for highest drop rates and the invaluable notes listed by other players-that's all I did.

Now, as for the axe, it rocks-it hits extremely hard and gives an excellent +crit buff to any Poleaxe-spec Warrior. The axe could even well-suit a hunter for it's decent AP & +Crit and possibly a Pally or Shammy (although I would assume they would want something that has slightly different equip bonuses). I went along with the savagery enchant for this axe as I want bigger & better MS crits but also the +35 Agility enchant would also be a good suit to up your crit rating slightly (totally irrelivant, but wanted to chime that in). Another huge plus of this axe is that upgrading it to the T2 version (Mooncleaver) is quite manageable in a reasonable time frame. The rarest of the two types of mats required-Primal Nether-is fairly easy to get your hands on by running heroic instances, and even some non-heroic instances (check Wowhead's section on "Primal Nether" for some drop rate input) and of course, Primal Mana can be easily farmed from simple Outland mobs.

The only downside to this axe, I believe, is the fact that it has no +stamina equip benefits. I had a Crow-Wing Reaper & Sonic Spear before this axe and they both gave 30+ stam/ea. Yes it's only a small percentage of the commonly found 10,000+ unbuffed hit points a warrior will have now-a-days (for example) but every little bit does count-especially during those nail-biter arena matches.

Some will say that it's a downfactor that you cannot craft this axe to sell straight up or make money off combines and I see the point of that as making end-game gear and and game profit would be well-generated from doing so-however-at the same time, it's nice too see that a fine weapon such as this won't be commonly spammed and found on almost every warrior/hunter/etc. on your server.

Comment by Caelir

The lack of stamina on this weapon does not bother me, the crit rating, coupled with poleaxe spec and impale is just amazing.
At the moment I am 11x Primal Air away from getting one for myself, can't wait.

Now, back to the stamina, when I dinged 70 I was very close to 10k hp unbuffed, that is basically without any enchants, some basic green gems in my gear where they could, thats all.
Although the rage gain from mace spec is nice, i prefer axe spec, since I am also a raider.
If you are purely focused on pvp, id say the mace would be a viable choice though.

Comment by 21579

Going back up to that pvp video, I saw your deep wounds ticking for about 165ish with the axe. My warrior has thunder (the blacksmithing equivalent of the mace) and his deep wounds can tick for about 225. He isn't dressed in Kara dps epics either. Even though he gives up 5% crit chance to go back to 25%, mace spec makes up for rage gained when it procs, stuns them, and when the mace is upgrade it gains a stun proc like hammer of the titans, etc.

Comment by 30597

There are many things to consider when deciding whether to make this axe or the mace, Thunder. I scrutinized over them for weeks before deciding on the axe line. Some are obvious, some might not be:

-- No STA on the axe. My thinking on this is:

In Arena, you're either being healed or you're not being healed. In some extreme cases, I suppose ~500 health could make all the difference, but usually it simply isn't a factor. When buffed with commanding shout/fort/warlock imp/mark of the wild/etc., your Arena HP will probably float around ~12000 to 13000 health. That's a ton of health regardless if you have the axe or the mace.

If you're DPS-ing in dungeons/raids, STA is important, but not overly important. Raid buffs will more than take care of you there.

-- Thunder receives a "chance on hit" proc when upgraded; axe does not. Let’s face it, procs are fun. And it definitely provides an added incentive to look forward to upgrading your tier 1 weapon. The axe gets what all the others already get, minus the proc (more top-end damage, and a couple more points of stats).

-- Don't forget that your Thunder WILL crit. heh, I see lots of debates on these weapons and I swear that some people think that if you choose mace that you suddenly cannot crit or something. You’re not choosing crit vs. stun. You’re choosing crit often vs. critting a little less often and gaining a stun.

-- Thunder has more top-end, which means that overall, when it DOES crit, it will crit slighter harder than the axe.

-- The axe has ideal PvE stats. Some mobs (and most bosses) will be immune to stuns in your instances and raids. Nothing is immune to crits.

-- The axe combos well with Impale and Flurry more so than the mace.

-- It is said that the mace spec proc rate on a 3.8 speed weapon (Thunder) is around 11-13%.

-- Make both! Your final decision on which one to upgrade will come at a price far greater than the cost to make either of the tier 1 versions. Do yourself a favor and farm up the mats to create both, and then make your decision after you test. Because unless you end up farming Heroic dungeons for a career, you will probably not ever see 24 Primal Nethers.

Comment by 28138

The only problem with making both weapons is that you have to drop your bs spec before crafting the second weapon and then you can't use the first weapon until you go back to that spec...

Comment by 28434

FROM WILLHELM' BLACKSMITHING GUIDE
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=7FF43A9D54492FC3767E47515C7A0C95?topicId=11873312&sid=1

As of 2.0.3, you learn and unlearn Weaponsmithing and Armorsmithing in the smithing areas in Ironforge or Orgrimmar. You learn or unlearn weapon specialties (Axesmith, Hammersmith, Swordsmith) in the bank in Everlook in Winterspring. The fee to unlearn Axesmith, Hammersmith, Swordsmith or Armorsmith is: 25 g through level 50, 50 g levels 51-65, 100 g levels 66-70. The fee to unlearn Weaponsmith is 5 g through level 65, 10 g levels 66-70.

//////////////To change between two weapon specialties go to Everlook and unlearn one specialty and then learn the other specialty (no fee, no quest).//////////////////////////

To change from Armorsmith to Weaponsmith, go to the Armorsmith NPC (in Ironforge or Orgrimmar) and pay to unlearn Armorsmithing. Then choose weapons instead of armor (with Myolor Sunderfury in Ironforge or Kralthok Moltenfistin Orgrimmar) and you will become a Weaponsmith (no fee, no quest). To choose a weapon specialty go to Everlook and speak to the appropriate NPC (no fee, no quest).

To change from Weaponsmith Specialist to Armorsmith go to Everlook and pay to unlearn your weapons specialty, then go to the Weaponsmith Trainer (Ironforge or Orgrimmar) and pay to unlearn Weaponsmith. Now choose Armor instead of Weapons (with Myolor Sunderfury in Ironforge or Kralthok Moltenfistin Orgrimmar) and you will become an Armorsmith (no fee, no quest).

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No fee to switch between weapon specialties.

Comment by 38737

I'm wondering, if you change from weaponsmith to armorsmith, can you still wear this weapon?

Comment by 45682

as an Orc i made this weapon.
Anyone can link a good talent build for a wielder of Lunar?
(warrior ofc) shamys+pallys get Thunder

Comment by 33112

That spec is shit You have to have atleast 3 points into prot to be any type of a good warrior and you do not get Imp Mortalstrike because it does nothing for you

Comment by 45682

ok thanks for your comments but it would be better for everyone to say the talent build that prefers (and link it if possible) talking about 2-h lunar build atm.
keep the good work :P

Comment by 36936

Does anyone have a screenshot of this axe with an enchant? I'd like to see the way the glow is distributed :-)

Comment by Aggrot

In the neew patch today it's upgraded :). 109,6 dps and 47crit rating and 96ap.

Comment by Falkor

did the mats get decreased cuz i heard a rumor they were gonna be?

Comment by 11088

For PvP:

Lunar Crescent > Thunder (5% axe crit is helpful untill you get better gear)

Deep Thunder > Mooncleaver (switch from axe to mace once you have good gear and the mats for the thunder and upgrade to deep thunder)

Comment by 33534

Hey right now i'm an Armormith with the Tier 1 Breastplate (Arms/Fury) and looking at the Gladiator gear the Chest Armor there is better then mine right now (and Season 2 is coming soon as well) so i figure i'm going to save my points for it and go Weaponsmith, and i wanna go for Thunder. i'm in a Raiding Guild so i can get Nethers and Vortex, just wanted to see if you think Thunder is the best choice or if the Axe/Sword would be better for me. Thank you!

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28440#go-to-comment-101034

Comment by w0rf

To break down the mats, if you want to make/obtain all of the mats yourself, including the Primal Mights, then you will need all the following.

16 Primal Air (160 Motes of Air) - Obtained from Wind Elementals in SMV.

16 Primal Earth (160 Motes of Earth) - Easy to obtain from mining.

4 Primal Water (40 Motes of Water) - Can be farmed at Elemental Plateau in Nagrand.

4 Primal Fire (40 Motes of Fire) - Can be farmed in the same area as the Motes of Water, or in various Blade Edge's Mountains areas. These are also quite easy to get while mining, as you get motes of fire from deposits.

4 Primal Mana (40 Motes of Mana) - Can easily be farmed in Netherstorm at Kirin'Tor Village, etc.

44 Eternium Ore (2 Ore makes 1 Bar) - Easy to gather while mining.

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The only somewhat-of-a-problem mats are the Primal Mana and Primal Waters, as those need to be obtained out of mining.

Comment by 66370

is easy to make the first axe-

Comment by Kazzalicious

This weapon works excellently for an MS warrior! At level 70 as a warrior;

Lunar Crescent:
109.6 Damage Per Second
+47 Critical Strike Rating=>~2.13% Crit Chance
+96 Attack Power (+6.86 DPS)

Compared to the

Thunder
109.6 Damage Per Second
+37 Strength =>+74 Attack Power (+5.29 DPS)
+37 Agility=>+1.12% Crit Chance
+1.12% Dodge Chance
+74 Armor
+55 Stamina=>+550 Health Points

and to the

Lionheart Blade
109.6 Damage Per Second
+47 Strength=>+94 Attack Power (+6.71 DPS)
+42 Agility=>+1.27% Crit Chance
+1.27% Dodge Chance
+84 Armor
+5% Resist to Fear effects

Comment by Gorestain

I was wondering if taking BS for these Tiered weapon's is worth it?

I have a hunter with the Sonic Spear ( https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27903 ) with Savagery on it.

I want to either pick up LWing or Mining, I can see myself getting BS'ing up to 375 quicker than LW

but hey, I'm open to advice

Comment by knajkan

lunar crescent is sooo nice=D

Comment by knajkan

is it hard to get from 270 bs to 350?

Comment by darkkeijp

I made this for my MM hunter. the Ap is great but the crit rating is awesome. shame it has no stamina but ye cant have all. hunters shouldnt get hit anyways.

Comment by Allakhazam

holy crap....and its a component in something? got to wonder what it turns into if its this good already...

Comment by Allakhazam

where do you get the plans for this?

Comment by Allakhazam

hunter weapon MOOOOOOOOO

Comment by Allakhazam

the craftable items in the TBC look like they really pull their weight around. I cant wait to make this on my warrior in the burning crusade, its gonna be hard, but well worth the effort imo. :)

The reagents for it are all BoE, but they won't be easy to acquire;

12x primal earth
12x primal air
4x primal might --
22x eternium bar (2 eternium ore each).

Edited, Jan 12th 2007 10:15am by Makenzie

Comment by Allakhazam

Screenshot: http://worldofraids.free.fr/bc/Blacksmithing/Weaponsmith/axesmith/lunarcrescent.jpg

Comment by Allakhazam

Haven't even killed a mob or alliance with it yet but damn it looks so nice on my Orc warrior.I spent almost 2 and half weeks lvling my BS from 215 to 350 and my minging from 90 to 375 all a the same time getting enough mts for this axe. I worked my ass off so badly I'm not gonna grind for a week. Anyway this axe looks amazing im broke so no savagery. Either way i could careless what class gets this axe cuz if you truely want it you work your ass off to no end for it.

All BS weapons Trainers have this on the list of purchasible recipes. Just scroll down tilly ou see Lunar Crescent axe.

GL to all those who want this axe the worst part is farming for Primal airs.

Hint for the primal airs. SCREW ELEMENTAL PLATO. The best and highest drop rate of air mote is the air elementals in SMV end of story. Again to save one time and HP the water elementals in the lakes in Nagrand also have a high drop rate. Fire mote, Blades edge or mine it. Earth Nagrand the low lvl elementals. Believe me the places I am talking about have all the mats you need for the production of primal mights.

Comment by Allakhazam

Notice the BOP :p

Comment by Allakhazam

New axe in TBC: http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/legendary-axe-id1859/

Comment by Allakhazam

Just made mine on the Blade's Edge server. And I am loving it! Rumor mill even has it that its going to get buffed? Probably has something to do with lack of stats in comparision with the sister weapons (sword, mace)

Comment by Allakhazam

Component in: Mooncleaver

Comment by Allakhazam

got this baby im a happy hunter :p
grinding for mana primals and primal nether now cant wait to get mooncleaver :)

plans for this sweet axe from the weaponmaster trainer
for alliance ironforge and shattrath city(neutral)

Edited, Feb 13th 2007 1:40pm by Neluz

Comment by Allakhazam

i just got it after a few days of farming...the hardest part is probly getting motes of air so just buy primal mights and farm the earths/airs. compared to my old crystalforge war axe, its 16dps more (not counting any weapon enchants) and mortal strikes are godly now. getting savagery (70 ap) enchant as soon as I can.

edit. plans can be bought from the trainer in shattrath (i dont know where else for horde) at lvl 350 smithing.

Edited, Mar 9th 2007 6:34pm by minkis

Comment by Allakhazam

pwnage axe...would be nice if it had a socket or 2. still glad I made mine tho hammer would probly be better for pvp

Comment by Allakhazam

I tried to defend blizzards decsisions time and time again but this is a joke. A weapon for which you need no groups no other players and which costs 150 gold?

And it takes a warrior with 60 equip from a victim to an invincible killing machine? Where the @#$% is the 1000 AP feral staff for my druid?

Comment by Thottbot

I made this 2 days ago, first one on the server to get it. Just started getting mats at lvl 65. Mats are not hard at all. Might take a bit of time ginding but its worth it for this. Can't complain with 2k white crits

Comment by Thottbot

Well, its simple for the people who dont know yet.
Start levelling your blacksmithing. At 200 or 225 (dont remember exactly) you take the weaponsmith quest (at the blacksmithtrainer in OG for the hordies)You have to make a couple of weapons for him etc etc.

Later on, at 250 BS skills AND level 50, you go to winterspring, everlook, where a troll teaches you how to become an axesmith. After that, go train your blacksmithing to 350 (in thrallmar the master axesmith teaches you from 300 on)

BS 260 - 300 is VERY annoying.

Once you get BS 350, go to the weaponsmith trainer (in orgrimmar at the BS trainer, in Shattrath at the forge) and he teaches you how to craft this weapon.

Hope this helps you enough.

Comment by Thottbot

sliced a mage in half, need i say more?

Comment by Thottbot

I decided that, with the upcoming changes to Mooncleaver (as well as Lunar Crescent), including the lessened cost of materials, that it would be worth finally leveling blacksmithing and mining from scratch (was 350 aclh/enchant).

It was painful, very painful. Took roughly 35 hours of mining to reach 375, and about 1900 g to lvl bsing to 350 and make the axe. Upgrading to Mooncleaver will be a breeze in comparison.

I leveled it in two days, so it's not impossible to get it asap if you so desire, but you better be able to function on no sleep for a couple days.

It owns face, btw.

Comment by Thottbot

yes you will lose the enchant as you are effectively destroying the original weapom to make the new one.

Comment by Thottbot

okay, enhancement shaman, this axe or thunder 2h mace?

Comment by Thottbot

Which is better for a Arms/Fury warrior? lunar crescent or thunder

Comment by Thottbot

well I got this thing today and I love it...huge upgrade from Crystalforge War axe >< I had about 1516 atck power with crystal because of savagery with lunar I have 1460 and it still hits waaaayyy harder than crystal...Id recommend getting it...Im getting savagery tommorow so then I will be up to 1520 attack power ^^...gl to all those who wish to get this, mats are buyable but expensive and farming them takes hours...its worth it in the end I belive...good luck!

Comment by Thottbot

i believe the first phrases when people see this axe are "OMFG, IMBA, ZOMG" and perhaps "GIEF!", and there is a reason why they say that, cos this axe is frickin awsum!

Comment by Thottbot

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8006/zonderma3.png http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1913/metai0.png

So basically, it won't give you any Base Stats. Instead of, it gives you: +20 Range Damage, +96 Ranged Power, +2,13% Ranged Crit Chance, which is pretty good for a hunter.

I havn't looked yet if it adds something to your Melee Stats. I will do soon.

20 July 2007

Comment by Thottbot

I just made this axe on my warrior for PvP. It was fairly simple to get. I started out at about 15 gold so I really did farm this entirely. I went to Skettis and farmed the water elementals for four hours and got 20 primals. I sold them all in the auction house the next day and from mining you should already have alot of the primal earth (if not all) as well as much of the eternium (which if you dont, is cheap as hell anyway.) Easy as that. Next day after farming here I am already with it crafted. The next stage of the axe is almost too easy to get. You can easily get the mana primals off the auction house for not too much or just farm them. (personally for all my money I just farm primal water) And then it's just a matter of running a bunch of heroics for the nethers. There is one thing I think I'll have trouble with though and thats getting my blacksmithing past 350. It seems like theres no real cheap recipes that you could use to up your skill fully.

Comment by Thottbot

Hey, im stuck at 340 weaponsmithing. and right now everything is yellow. not sure if i should just keep making them or if there are any patterns i can get that are cheaper to make or something. Cause im wasting away gold at fel iron, got a 70 warrior.

Comment by Thottbot

I'm a orc warrior ms/fury(33/28) doing arena & pvp. I have the lunar but am debating the +5 axe skill on the orc. Any thoughts to as if it adds much? The Thunder looks nice as does the stormherald eventually vs. the bloodmoon.

Comment by Thottbot

hayabusav15....

When you upgrade your wep to the next teir the enchant is gone. So thats kinda sucky ;P

Comment by Thottbot

Questioning if I should make this or the thunder as I will eventually get the tier3 version but with blizzards mention of mace spec getting nerfed I'm a bit split of if stormherald will still be the best pvp weapon.

Comment by Thottbot

Got this badboy today.. borrowed a bit of gold off a few mates (about 350g in total) so i could get Blacksmithing from 275 to 350, didnt take too long to get the Blacksmithing...

The next story was farming out the mats for it.

One this i would love to point out.... this is just my opinion, go farm Primal Manas and sell them and buy the mats... The drop rate is WAY better than any of the other things that you need and i found it to be alot easier.. (mainly as im aussie playing on american server, thus no one is farming when i am)...

Took me roughly 8-12 hours game time (cant really remember that well...) so its not that much of a challenge

I upgraded from Plasma Rats Hyper Scythe piece o' crap from a mech run... and the difference is awsome, with DeathWish and The WSG +dmg boost i was hitting out 1.7k uncritted MS, which gave me a little warm fuzzy feeling inside :D

Unbuffed i was hitting 750ish mortal strikes with my old wep, and now with this baby i can easily get out a 1k w/o crit on a squishie

GG

Nadan 70 warrior
Illidan - PvP

Forgot to add, enjoy the 35.50% crit chance unbuffed... rolling out with a feral druid for the +5% totally pwns :D

Comment by Thottbot

Once the 2.3 patch comes out (estimated October 2007) it will be WORTHLESS to craft this weapon, as epic arena season 1 weapons will be available for purchase with honor.

Some of those weapons are:
Axe: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28298/gladiators-decapitator
Mace: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28299/gladiators-bonegrinder
Sword: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24550/gladiators-greatsword

Comment by Thottbot

So anyways, back to the Lunar Crescent... I'd make this weapon just because it's an easy to craft epic weapon.. pure and simple. If you cant arena right now, craft this. If you have a blue weapon, craft it.
If you're doing %^&*ty damage, craft it. I'll take my own epic that i can make over waiting for one

Comment by Thottbot

Is this better than the Lionheart Blade?

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Lunar Crescent

	Phase 1

Item Level 107
Binds when picked up
Unique

Two-Hand	Axe

324 - 487 Damage	Speed 3.70

(109.59 damage per second)
Durability 120 / 120

Requires Level 70
Requires Master Axesmith
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 47.
Equip: Increases attack power by 96.

Sell Price: 14 17 39

Lunar Crescent

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