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Comment by 3118

Arcanite is usually within a 10g window on all servers. Average asking price for a transmute is 5 gold, although 4g is becoming popular since thats how WoW's open market works.

It CAN be mined out of small throium veins, however that is a rare occurence. It is less rare from rich thorium veins (RTV).

Comment by 91138

Arcanite bars are also needed by enchanters to create runed arcanite rods, and it can't be skipped as the arcanite rod is an ingredient in the next enchanting rod required only 10 profession levels later!

Comment by 105958

Note for Llane Alchemists: Unless you are a miner, or know one you will have to buy your own materials (Thorium bar-2g in AH, Arcane Crystal- 5-10g in AH) This means that if you sell your arcanite bar in the AH for the general price (20g) the profit will only be 8-13g which is not bad. However, there is also good money in selling arcanite transmutes using the buyer's mats (which are especially good if you still get alch. skill from it). From experience I know that there are some people who will only tip 2g, but there are some rich and desperate souls who will pay 25g (provided you meet them at a destination that works best for the customer). I hope that whoever bothers to read this will find it useful. And when I learn more about it, i may post information similar to this about primal might transmutes in the primal might item comments.

Comment by nosound

I had no idea, what are those arcane crystals needed for and i just stored them in my bank. Then, one day, I got my hands on rare engineering schematic from MC - https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=16055
Lucky I didn't waste all my crystals :) Now, I'm a happy PvP engineer :)

Comment by Zellyn

No longer has a cooldown on the 2.4 PTR.

Comment by Krynoraxian

An interesting note: Due to the increased drop rate of arcane crystals in all thorium veins. For a very short time(275-280) Arcanite Keys can be a good substitute for Imperial Plate bracers for getting some skill up.

Transmute Arcanite is:
Thorium Bar x1
Arcane Crystal x1

Arcanite Key x2 is:
Arcanite Bar x1
Dense Grinding Stone x1 (4 Dense Stone)

This compared to...

Imperial Plate bracers:
Thorium Bar x12

It should be noted Arcanite keys are of yellow difficulty when you train them at 275, but for those 5 blacksmithing levels its well worth the risk over the orange skill Imperial Plate bracers to save yourself some money/time.

Comment by Thottbot

The alchemist vendor/supply guy in Gadgetzan sells the recipe.

Comment by Thottbot

On korgall the general prices are.

Arcane crystals: 16-20g (mostly 18-19)
Arcanite bars: 20-25g (mostly 23-25)
Transmutes: 2-3g

Im a Blacksmith/miner and usually farm to get the big profit or im buying crystals below 17g in ah buy a transmute for 2-3g and sell for 23-25g, a quick 3-6g profit.

This is horde side atleast. If anyone have some price info on the alliance side and it would be cheap with 30g for a bar i gladly buy some and put out in the both sides ah.

Comment by Thottbot

You need:
1 Arcane Crystal
1 Thorium Bar
for 1 Arcanite Bar

You need a Alchemist with the learned recipe "Transmute Arcanite" to do it for ya...
it has 48 hours CoolDown so most normal price for a transmute by others is around 5g

Comment by Thottbot

Does anybody know if throwing u'r philosopher stone and making another affects the cooldown?

Comment by Thottbot

I bought the recipe today after seeing how cheap the mats were, but how much Arcanite bars are going for at the AH. I spent about 3-4G for 3 of the crystals. About 2G for 3 Thorium Bars. And 4G+ at the vendor for the recipe. The Arcanite bars are on AH for 18-20G per bar. 36G for 3 bars. Its insane. But also the best money maker I've seen so far for my Alchemy prof. Still, I dont know if I would charge 36G. XD

Comment by Thottbot

To all the Alchemist who dispare, there is a light at the end of the rainbow.

I have a low level ALT 35, makes arcanite bars.

Was selling for 32G to 40G a shot, arcane crystals were selling for 14g a shot.

The new expansion came out, Arcane went to 1.5G each! THorium 1G each. I couldn't sell the damn thing for 5G per Arcanite.

Then people in alchemy realized that becoming a high level master of transmutation, they can create Primal Mights and maybe get some free with the deal and sell those for 100G each and make a mint!

I then started to notice the price of Arcanite bars increasing! Why? People are no longer using their 23hr (not 24hr as people state) cooldown on the primal might and other powerful items, why make a low paying Arcanites! But people still need them.

So I have started to bring the market back up. I now sell bars for 13G each, and rising. The crystals are still selling for 1.5G each, but slowly rising. They have a good drop rate now. So I have loads. The thorium is a breeze to buy or mine. And my low level Alt is making me money.

of course, for big money, get a Master skill and leave the Arcanite business to me! :)

Play the game, do not let the Game Play you!

Comment by Thottbot

I have been selling Arcanite Bars for about 2 months now in the AH for the horde...typical price 10g 75s. I hadn't seen Arcanite run for much more than 15g each...don't know if people were selling them at tbat price...kudos if you were. So the breakdown was typically:
Buy: Thorium 1g 50s
Buy: Arcane Crystal 4g
Sell: Arcanite Bar 10g 75s
Profit: 4g 50s on average.

This last week the Arcane Crystal market exploded and now Arcane Crystals are running at twice the price. Anyone know what happened? Has the drop rate on ACs gone back down?

I am trying to bring up the market on Arcanite Bars...trying to sell at 15g each to offset some of the cost but some people are still managing to sell for around 10-11g. So either they are selling for a miniscule profit or they have an alt that is farming mats for them.

I am really trying to avoid having to put together and alt that would farm the mats I need for the transmute. X-(

Comment by Thottbot

hard to find in AH on my server but they are 7g since burning crusade

Comment by Thottbot

On my server they are now close to 20 g, their price has rised few times.

Comment by Thottbot

On my server the price of the crystals have droped to 4g and im on the pally mount quest so i litterally paid 24g for 6 crytals and 6g for the bars... cheap but the problem still is... im offering 5g and mats to anyone to transmute for me and i havnt found a single person in 2 days... is it just me or is something seriusly messed up... duuh

Comment by Thottbot

After patch 2.4 there will be no cooldown to transmute these. I expect the price to drop from 20G to 5G instantly.

Comment by Thottbot

If indeed the cooldown time drops to nothing on these, expect to see a lot more heartseekers, arcanite champions, etc out there for sale. This is usually the holdup because of cooldown times, hence the high cost per bar. So while the bars themselves will sell for so much less, It opens the market for the items that use these as mats to be sold much wider. There is a silver lining here. Assuming that this is all true of course.

Comment by Thottbot

I predict that the other effect of eliminating the cooldown will be a large increase in the price of arcane crystals - since the cooldown had been limiting demand up 'till now. With no cooldown, people will be encouraged to make the things mentioned in the last post, as well as make arcanite bars to level alchemy.

I've gone out and bought all the crystals I can for less than 7 gold each. Let's see if I'm right.

Comment by Thottbot

It doesn't says that it has cooldown, did they remove it in last patch?

Comment by Thottbot

yes..they sell now 70% cheaper

Comment by Thottbot

ok, you can still make a profit from these, just not as much. And yes, it does suck that you may have banked on it to carry you through, but Pally's were/are the ones buying them more than anybody for the charger questline. I know I did. Bear in mind my post above though. This opens much more market potential for volume sales IF, and it is a big if, the blacksmiths on your server start making some pre-bc blues or epic gear for their mid level alts or guildies. Hell, even for sale on the AH. I use my shammy almost exclusively to transmute these for my blacksmith Pally. I've sold quite a few Heartseekers and Sageblades already since last week when the patch came out. Lots of gold to be made still if you can partner up with somebody you trust. A lot depends on the demand on your server though to be fair. If the demand isn't there, then yeah, you might be screwed.

Comment by Thottbot

yep prices on arcane gems have shot up on my server to 16 to 20 gold

Comment by Thottbot

And just as a side thought to the person upset about arcanite bar prices, try primal might xmutes. those have shot up on average 25G per on Stormreaver to 105G at the lowest. Pre patch they averaged about 80G. You can only do one a day, not taking into account procs, but what a profit if the mats are easily attainable for you.

Comment by Thottbot

since no transmute cd = this + transmute master = money

Comment by Allakhazam

I create Arcanite bars, on Aggramar on the European servers, for a flat fee of 5g. /w Eric, if I'm on, or send me a mail and I'm sure to reply soon.

Comment by Allakhazam

5 gold for something that one has worked up the skill to conduct. Not to mention the 48 hour cooldown. I am insulted and on stike. Alchemist deserve a cost of living increase and a dental plan.

PS Bite me Miners

Comment by Allakhazam

Only alchemists can make this, one every 24 hours.

The recipie is bought from an NPC in Gadgetzan.

Comment by Allakhazam

lucky people... your talking about it being outrageous cuz the bars sell for 35-75g but the crystals alone sell for about... 150g lowest in Detheroc (Horde) because all the good thorium veins are covered by farmers

Comment by Allakhazam

so only achemists can make?

Comment by Allakhazam

Don't try and get these at the AH as they cost a lot! Instead buy some Arcane Crystals (msot of the time they are cheap) and some thorium bars and get an alchemist to turn them into ARcanite bars. Make sure you have a number of alchemists because each time the transform the materials there's a 24hour cooldown.

Comment by Allakhazam

It's risky trying to make money buying crystals then making arcanite for profit. The only way i'd do it is if I saw someone selling 2 crystals for like 30g or something. Most people that need arcanite bars buy the crystals and thorium themselves, then pay an alchemist 3 or 4 gold to transmute for them. Much cheaper than buying the bar by itself usually.

Comment by Allakhazam

Well after playing on windrunner for nearly a year and a half...I've never seen one sell for that price.

Comment by Allakhazam

20g onwards on khadgar, alliance side! Wooo hooo! But still expensive to me. .

Comment by Allakhazam

on elune server these go for 35-37g each

Comment by Allakhazam

Just thought I should point out that when creating arcanite the cooldown on the Philosophers' Stone is 48 hours, not 24 as previously mentioned.

Comment by Allakhazam

You can make approximatley 8 gold using this, but you can only do it every 24 hours....
guess I'll have to make my guildies give me the ore that's in the recipe; then I can make 29g and 50s per fusion.... sweeet. :D :D :D

Comment by Allakhazam

I'm selling the transmute for 5g... and its 48h cooldown.

The thorium is not that expensive, but the Arcane Crystals are! Often worse than the bars themself!

My suggestion is to buy a stack of thorium bars, and bid for crystals when they are going cheap, transmute, and sell the bars at AH!

Edited, Wed Feb 23 20:12:52 2005

Comment by Allakhazam

This is a good way to make some money. Got transmute few weeks ago and used it everytime cooldown ends, either sold transmute or bought crystal and thorium bar and then sold the arcanite bar. 2-8g profit everytime.

Comment by Allakhazam

sold one for 75g yesterday on windrunner, what the hell happpened

Comment by Allakhazam

it's a trainer's spell or a recipe?

Comment by Allakhazam

Could you maybe make money with this? I haven't looked at how much the ingredients cost, but this sells for a nice bunch and I'm getting close to this level of Alchemy... Maybe I could afford a mount by Lvl 40 doing this... erm, you didn't hear that.

Comment by Allakhazam

Depends on server. On my server its hard to sell a Bar for 27g.

Comment by carwik149

Essential for many late game items and enchants! Prices may vary but at least on Dreadmist EU they tend to go for around 65-70g /each.

Comment by Rothia

HOW TO OBTAIN Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker

Receive both Bindings of the Windseeker (drop rate: 4,08%) from Garr and Bindings of the Windseeker (drop rate: 4,28%) from Baron Geddon in Molten Core.
Visit Highlord Demitrian in Silithus. He will give you Vessel of Rebirth to start the quest Examine the Vessel which leads to Thunderaan the Windseeker.
Kill Ragnaros for Essence of the Firelord (100% drop rate when you have the quest in your log).
Aquire 10x Elementium Bar.
Bring your guild and head back to Highlord Demitrian. Turn in the quest and he will summon Prince Thunderaan which will drop Dormant Wind Kissed Blade.
Complete Rise, Thunderfury! and you're done!

Mats needed for 10x Smelt Elementium:

100x Arcanite Bar (100x Thorium Bar + 100x Arcane Crystal + 100x Transmute: Arcanite)
10x Elementium Ore (Buy from the Auction House or loot in Blackwing Lair from Blackwing Technician)
10x Fiery Core (Buy from the Auction House or loot in Molten Core from trash mobs)
30x Elemental Flux

Comment by Rothia

The following quests can be picked up from Craftsman Wilhelm at the Light's Hope Chapel in the Eastern Plaguelands by completing Omarion's Handbook which you get from Master Craftsman Omarion.
He's trapped in a cage in the first room of trash in the Deathknight Wing inside Naxxramas.
With a skill of 300 and high enough reputation, you will be able to choose from a total of 13 different patterns depending on your professions: Tailoring (4), Leatherworking (6) or Blacksmithing (3).

Patterns / Plans doesn't exists, all of them are taught by Master Craftsman Omarion in Naxxramas

FROST RESISTANCE CLOTH ARMOR: →

----- cloak

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--- cloak tailoring

Item / Tailoring	Quest / Pattern	Frozen Rune	Bolt of Runecloth	Essence of Water	Ironweb Spider Silk	Gold	Argent Dawn
Glacial Vest	Glacial Vest	8	8	6	4	300	Exalted
Glacial Wrists	Glacial Wrists	4	2	2	2	200	Neutral
Glacial Gloves	Glacial Gloves	5	4	4	2	200	Neutral
Glacial Cloak	Glacial Cloak	5	4	2	4	200	Exalted
Glacial Vest	Pattern: Glacial Vest	7	8	6	8	Free	Revered
Glacial Wrists	Pattern: Glacial Wrists	4	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Glacial Gloves	Pattern: Glacial Gloves	5	4	4	4	Free	Revered
Glacial Cloak	Pattern: Glacial Cloak	5	4	2	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE LEATHER ARMOR: →

--- vest

---bracers

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

Item / Leatherworking	Quest / Pattern	Frozen Rune	Enchanted Leather	Essence of Water	Cured Rugged Hide	Ironweb Spider Silk	Gold	Argent Dawn
Polar Tunic	Polar Tunic	8	16	5	5	❌	300	Exalted
Polar Bracers	Polar Bracers	4	12	3	3	❌	200	Neutral
Polar Gloves	Polar Gloves	5	12	3	3	❌	200	Neutral
Polar Tunic	Pattern: Polar Tunic	7	16	2	4	4	Free	Exalted
Polar Bracers	Pattern: Polar Bracers	4	12	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Polar Gloves	Pattern: Polar Gloves	5	12	2	3	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE MAIL ARMOR: →

----- vest

----- wrist

----- gloves

--- vest

--- wrists

--- gloves

Item / Leatherworking	Quest / Pattern	Frozen Rune	Heavy Scorpid Scale	Essence of Water	Cured Rugged Hide	Ironweb Spider Silk	Gold	Argent Dawn
Icy Scale Breastplate	Icy Scale Breastplate	8	24	7	5	❌	300	Exalted
Icy Scale Bracers	Icy Scale Bracers	4	16	5	3	❌	200	Neutral
Icy Scale Gauntlets	Icy Scale Gauntlets	5	16	5	3	❌	200	Neutral
Icy Scale Breastplate	Pattern: Icy Scale Breastplate	7	24	2	4	4	Free	Exalted
Icy Scale Bracers	Pattern: Icy Scale Bracers	4	16	2	2	4	Free	Revered
Icy Scale Gauntlets	Pattern: Icy Scale Gauntlets	5	16	2	3	4	Free	Revered

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FROST RESISTANCE PLATE ARMOR: →

--- vest

---bracers

gauntles

--- chest

--- bracers

--- gloves

Item / Blacksmithing	Quest / Plans	Frozen Rune	Thorium Bar	Arcanite Bar	Essence of Water	Gold	Argent Dawn
Icebane Breastplate	Icebane Breastplate	8	16	2	4	300	Exalted
Icebane Bracers	Icebane Bracers	4	12	2	2	200	Neutral
Icebane Gauntlets	Icebane Gauntlets	5	12	2	2	200	Neutral
Icebane Breastplate	Plans: Icebane Breastplate	7	16	2	4	Free	Exalted
Icebane Bracers	Plans: Icebane Bracers	4	12	2	2	Free	Revered
Icebane Gauntlets	Plans: Icebane Gauntlets	5	12	2	2	Free	Revered

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ALL CLASSES

----- glacial legs

----- polar legs

----- icy scale legs

----- icebane legs

Reward	Quest	Frozen Rune	Essence of Water	Blue Sapphire	Gold	Argent Dawn
Glacial Leggings	The Only Song I Know...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Polar Leggings	The Only Song I Know...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Icy Scale Leggings	The Only Song I Know...	2	2	2	30	Neutral
Icebane Leggings	The Only Song I Know...	2	2	2	30	Neutral

--- head

--- shoulders

--- head

--- head

--- head

--- shoulders

--- head

--- head

DROP	BOSS	WOWHEAD DROP RATE: 2021-01-29

Glacial Headdress	Gothik the Harvester	22,44 %
Glacial Mantle	Grobbulus	19,35 %

Polar Helmet	Gothik the Harvester	20,51 %
Polar Shoulder Pads	Grand Widow Faerlina	20,26 %

Icy Scale Coif	Heigan the Unclean	22,59 %
Icy Scale Spaulders	Grobbulus	21,51 %

Icebane Helmet	Heigan the Unclean	17,47 %
Icebane Pauldrons	Grand Widow Faerlina	19,83 %

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