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Dwarfiesgosquish
They had me. They really did. I was sooo convinced they were going to Find Sophia alive...
And Shane, oh Shane, I have defended you to my friends and family multiple times, but... Dude... You're a !@#$, and I hope you get your bones gnawed on by a Walker.
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Post by
Gone
I'd worked it out as soon as the barn was first brought up. Shane is a bad-ass and seems to have his priorities straighter than anyone else in the show, even though his methods are questionable. Hershel really seemed to have broken down at the sight of that (did he mouth "$%^&"?), it'll certainly shake things up come February.
The main question it left me with is how she got bit, whether she wandered into the barn or they found her like that and never mentioned it
Also, @#$% censoring preventing me from asking a legitimate question because infantile admins are offended by words.
if she had just crawled in there she would have been completely eaten, there wouldn't be enough left of her body to walk out. It's more likely they found her and locked her in there with the rest
Shane is a piece of *!@#, he's still talking &*!@ about Rick and wanting him dead. Rick has a more level way of thinking and is a better leader.
Now that I've seen him hand Carl the gun himself I am like 99% sure that Carl is going to kill him
Post by
Fwibbles
HO
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SHET
that was the most surprising twist I have ever seen on a show.
Post by
Adamsm
So....heading up to issue 100 is going to be really intense; a new wanderer, who speaks for two other communities? 200 other people out there? Man, next year is going to be great for the Walking Dead comic.
Post by
Gone
Every time I think Kirkman has run out of ideas and the series is about to start getting repetitive, he pulls a new rabbit and suprises me. I wonder what this is going to mean for Rick and his crew if this new guy is for real. Do they all work together and start to rebuild society? Are they going to attack Ricks community to steal the resources?
To quote Game of Thrones "Winter is coming" in the Walking Dead verse (well actualy winter is very much here), and people are starting to run low on food, the exiration date on most canned goods are starting to run out as well. And Ricks community was blessed with having the ability to harness solar power for electricity, so its probably worse in other places. Im thinking that as food gets more and more scarce and the snow starts comming down more and more its going to lead to some trouble with these other communities.
One thing Im sure of is that when issue 100 hits the shelves, something either very good, or very bad is going to happen to change the status quo of the series.
Post by
Adamsm
So, Feb 12 is the going to be the mid-season premier date for Walking Dead....needs to hurry up.
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Gone
Hahaha nice avatar Adam
Post by
Rankkor
"I am Legend" (The book, not the movie)
because it subverted the whole "zombie apocalipse" thingie that other zombie flicks have already exploited to death.
There is still a virus, there is still massive rioting, people going feral, and all that.
But in the end, the surprise twist was, that the main character realized that the infected were actually intelligent and capable of love/compassion/etc., and had only been coming after him because he was kidnapping, experimenting on, harming and killing them in an effort to "cure" the disease; the 'leader' of the infected merely wants his mate back, and the various attacks had been acts of self-defence. Basically, Neville spent the entire book believing that they were mindless monsters when, in fact, he was the monstrous one, albeit unknowingly. The title refers to this, as he's the boogyman in the infected's legends — hence, "I Am Legend".
By far my favorite Zombie work of fiction, and I wish they had used the original ending for the movie as well.
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ElhonnaDS
@ Rankk- I heard that they did, and that the ending didn't test well with audiences, so they turned it into a normal blow them all to heck zombie movie at the end. No sources for this, though.
I was also thoroughly disappointed in the ending of I am Legend- it killed the whole concept of the original movies. I especially hated that the first 80% of the movie left clues and was written in such a way that it seemed to be going the right way, and then bam- hordes of zombies and an explosion. I mean- they kept pets, the guy chased after the girl into the sun, they set a trap for him with the mannequins.
I felt while watching it like someone had seen the first two movies, read the book, and written 85% of a screenplay. And then someone else picked it up, thumbed through and said "ooh, zombies!" and finished writing it accordingly.
Post by
Rankkor
Was that how I Am legend went? I thought the whole leader wanting his mate back was only in the movie?
Anyway yea the end of the book was great (been a while though), that %^&* was better than Dracula.
damn I think u're right :P Maybe I got them mixed up.
Still liked the book better than the movie.
Which happens often, whenever they make a "Film of the book" the book almost always ends up superior to the movie itself.
It happened with War of the worlds (Book > movie) Lord of the Rings (Book > Movie, but in this case the movie was ALMOST as good as the book) I am Legend (Book > Movie) and a rather large ect.
Post by
Gone
Was that how I Am legend went? I thought the whole leader wanting his mate back was only in the movie?
Anyway yea the end of the book was great (been a while though), that %^&* was better than Dracula.
damn I think u're right :P Maybe I got them mixed up.
Still liked the book better than the movie.
Which happens often, whenever they make a "Film of the book" the book almost always ends up superior to the movie itself.
It happened with War of the worlds (Book > movie) Lord of the Rings (Book > Movie, but in this case the movie was ALMOST as good as the book) I am Legend (Book > Movie) and a rather large ect.
Its because the books give you more of the story, even to turn a short book, 300 pages or so, into film you would need like a 3-4 hour movie to leave nothing out.
%^&*ing Harry Potter movies...
Post by
Morec0
Zombieland was awesome, but I really couldn't name a favorite off the top of my head. They're all very good.
Here's a question (which I don't know if its been brought up for not) which type of zombie do all of you prefer? The original, slow-moving shambling zombies or the new, quick-moving, sometimes-carrying-weapons zombies that media formats have begun using? And which form of zombie creation do you like most? Mystical, rise out of graves-style? Or the new "infected" zombie class?
Personally, I like the quicker, predator-like zombies. To me they represent the scare and sheer terror of having something that can hunt and kill you much better than the shambling ones could. I also prefer the infected class of zombie over the mystical undead ones, fiction ground in reality is (to me) so much more entertaining.
Post by
Rankkor
Personally, I like the quicker, predator-like zombies. To me they represent the scare and sheer terror of having something that can hunt and kill you much better than the shambling ones could. I also prefer the infected class of zombie over the mystical undead ones, fiction ground in reality is (to me) so much more entertaining.
agreed.
The old shambling slow-moving zombies are anything but scary, you could basically outrun them forever, if you have enough ammo you could gun them down before they represent any real threat.
There's a reason why in Half-Life 2, when you're in Ravenhold, at first it isn't so scary since you only face regular zombies, as soon as the fast ones start to show up, DAMN that's when that section of the game becomes pure high-octane horror.
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ElhonnaDS
I think either kind of zombie can be effective, in terms of fast or slow. The slow zombies represent a gradual, unending, unstoppable tide of bad, that kind of creeps in around the protagonists, and swallows the world around them. The horror in those movies isn't the couple of action sequences that are dispersed throughout, where one character or another makes a critical mistake and dies. It's about the unending waiting that they do in between, the various desperate attempts to prolong their survival, because all the while it's in the back of their mind and yours that none of it means anything- there's nowhere to go, no way to stop it, nothing to wait out- this is the entirety of their existence, and all they can do is postpone the inevitable, because eventually, they will be the person that makes the mistake that gets them killed. I also think slow zombie movies do a lot more to show the horror of what happens to human beings in desperate situations. In my experience, more often than not in classic zombie movies people are likely to be killed by each other- either directly because of a power struggle or a personality conflict, or because someone gets scared and refuses to open the door when someone needs to get back in. Slow zombies make movies that are about the breakdown of civilized behavior as much as they are about monsters.
Fast zombies are action monster movies. The do have some of the elements of the above, but generally start and end with fast-paced chase scenes and sometimes explosions. In those movies, the characters don't seem to have as much down time to focus on the dread they feel about the end of the world. There are some of the slow-zombie elements in these movies, in terms of inter-personal conflict and the sense of inevitability, but since they are populated by action heroes instead of teenagers and farmers, it just has a different feel.
In terms of the virus/scientific vs. magical zombie thing, I think that the virus wins hands down for a number of reasons:
A) Scale- in a situation where you have a single witch doctor or evil wizard making zombies, you're generally looking at a situation where it's a single island, or town, or specific area he's doing this in. It's not a global epidemic, so the actual horror of the situation is only what's happening to the main characters, and not the idea that civilization has ended.
B) Infection- Generally, in the "magical" zombie movies I have seen, people are raised from the dead by someone, or by a curse. They don't have this same desperate feel of "one bite, one scratch, and you become the enemy." I feel like the infection aspect makes for a much more dramatic movie.
C) Characters never seem to make any progress. Normally, in a scientific type movie, the zombies can be taken down with a shot tot he head, or something like that. And there's always the idea of a cure, or something, since it's a disease. Most (not all) "magic" zombie movies make up for the fact that the problem is smaller in scale by making the individual zombies stronger and almost unkillable, and bu outlining no situation in which the curse could ever be ended. So, instead of watching a situation where the characters have a series of small victories and defeats, and hanging on to see if this is the one that will save them or get someone killed, but still seem to be making some kind of progress until the big disaster in the end, it's mostly a lot of running, and barring doors, and panicking, until everyone is dead or off the island.
D) It hits closer to home. Most people don't believe that the scary woman in the house at the end of the block, or the guy selling voodoo doll souvenirs outside your hotel, have any kind of mystic power. Certainly, not enough to raise a legion of the dead to attack you- maybe they could cause your tire to go flat or curse you with chronic migraines, but that's about it. However, we ALL believe on some level that our government is doing horrible, nasty things with our tax money- SOPA, illegal phone taps, brewing up a zombie apocalypse germ, etc. It's a lot less far fetched to think that somewhere, the government is brewing up some nasty germs for WWIII, and they might come up with something really terrible that could get loose and kill everyone. That's why we lie when we report our tips and outside income, after all- to save humanity.
Post by
Adamsm
For I Am Legend; the original book was about a vampire virus created by a bacteria, they weren't really 'zombies' so much as Renfields when they were still alive, only being animated by the bacteria after the living host had succumbed: In the book, the protagonist figured that out fairly quickly, especially during his tests with his neighbor: Held the Cross up and did nothing, then held up the Star of David and got a reaction.
As for shamblers against sprinters: I like the middle ground. The ones where freshly reanimated start out fast but slowly slow down as the story progresses as their body starts the decay. Of course, a lot of the fast zombies aren't; they are mainly still alive people succumbing to their infections(28 Days Later and all); after all, if all zombies were fast zombies, the movies would get reeeeeeaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyyyyy boring after a while, since you know no one on foot is going to get away from the undead. At least with shamblers there's always that suspense that a person may get away, but if the undead keep hearing sounds, they'll keep following it, and the more of them that come, the more recruits they are likely to pick up.
Heh, I was reading zombie tropes yesterday, and reading the head-scratcher page about the remake of Dawn of the Dead: If the gun shop guy was sitting on a butt load of ammo, why didn't he just start shooting zombies to get to the mall; pretty much everyone chimed in with the fact that all of those shots would mean you'd just be ringing the dinner bell and calling in more and more zombies to come see what's going on.
And, while I know people are split on Brooks work, in the Survival Guide where he talks about the 'moan', you could eventually end up with every zombie in a hundred miles converging on your position if you have a Zed following you constantly moaning. As seen in World War Z, during the Battle for Yonkers, the army made so much noise they drew out the zombified population of New York....and got completely decimated, and those were all shamblers.
Post by
Adamsm
Well, the new arc is called 'Larger World'; wonder if this is gonna get us up to issue 100, and some new massive big thing will blow up in all of their faces? We'll find out in July, just seven months to go heh.
Post by
Gone
Havnt read issue 93 yet, idk if its even on the stands. But rereading issue 92 I just relised that this guy basically tells Rick and his groupe that their community has a ton of food, and no guns... lolwhat? I mean I know its a good 20 miles away and Rick and pals shouldnt be able to easily find it, but still seems funny that the guy comes out and says that.
This new arc seems like its gonna be awesome, just the idea of setting up trading routs and everything seems like their getting into some Roman @#$%. Its like the undead really set the world back a good thousand years, except theyhave guns and cars and such (for a while). This opens up a whole world of possibilities, will there be some kind of a war eventualy between communities? What kinds of commedties will they be trading besides food and guns? Gas? Drugs? Slaves?
Cant wait to get my hands on #93.
Post by
Gone
Nice episode tonight, I thought the end was pretty good. I was hoping they would have departed the farm by now though, doing one vollume per season is going to make it drag on now that their doing more than 6 episodes.
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204878
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