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Worgen/Goblin Capital City?
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Post by
Forman
Where do you think the worgen would get there capital? Because we all know that Gilneas will be a starting zone not a capital city. The same for goblins.
Post by
Earthshockaz
None.
Worgen will get a section in SW and Goblins will get a section in Orgrimmar
Post by
Forman
If they do that, then the capital will be really overcrowded...I mean in SW humans/gnomes and now worgen and in Org orcs/trolls and goblins.
Post by
Earthshockaz
it's not gonna be a huge part but rather a really small section like the park in SW and the valley of spirits in Org
Post by
Morec0
That just a bit messed up.
And why can't worgen use Greymane city? Ruins of Lorderaon is a area and the Undercity still belongs to the Forsaken.
Post by
DSitC
Afaik, the goblins are contructing their own capital city in Azshara. So they won't be hanging out in Orgrimmar with the other cool guys.
I also remember that it was stated for the worgen to be given a new district in Stormwind.
Now, this would leave the alliance one capital short. Since I'm pretty sure that Blizzards wants the number of capital cities to be equal, I guess it's time for the gnomes to re-take Gnomeregan.
Since both, the building of the goblin capital, and the re-taking of Gnomeregan could be a gradual process, we may experience something similar to the construction of the crusader's colliseum. Every patch could push the progress a bit further. Would be rather cool if it would be done that way. :-)
Post by
agentapd
Well first of all they are making the Goblins have the Undermine!
And Greymane City is in Gilneas and is their capitalcity!
And if gnomes retake Gnomeregan then the Trolls should retake Echo Isles!
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Post by
Rankkor
Don't Goblins get Undermine?
during their starting quests the island of kezan is buried in a flow of molten lava from their volcano, the goblins escape via boats and then naufragate after getting shot by accident during a horde vs alliance naval battle.
Gilneas City is the cpital, Gilneas is the land surronding it.
errr sorry bro' but gilneas city is becoming a battleground.
Battle for Gilneas City will be a new battleground in which you take control of the city by taking control of the most districts in the battleground.
this quote is on the wowwiki article on cataclysm, it details why gilneas city is not gonna be a capital, it's gonna be a battleground (and for what I've heard of it, it's gonna be a truly epic one)
without wanting to spoil much, on the course of their starting quests, the worgen loose their starting zone, using the new phasing mechanics they eventually move via boats to stormwind were they get a city section for themselves.
remember that gilneas is located at silverpine forest, wich is tagged as "horde territory" instead of "neutral territory". if after finising their starting quests the new worgen venture into silverpine, they are gonna get mega-pwned on pvp realms by the undescribable ammount of horde players who can and will be there.
(if they had gilneas as capital, the pvp on most realms would be too intense, remember that silverpine forest is located less than 2000 yards away from a horde capital, they just can't put 2 oposing capitals, so close to one another, the pvp would be too much, just way too much, new players for both the forsaken and the worgen would never be able to quest in peace, it would be the equivalent as placing a new horde capital at westfall, wich is tagged as "alliance territory", the ammount of pvp there would be too intense, it would break the gameplay)
after this line everything else I say is speculation.
it's 2 diferent choises,
A: worgen and goblin get no new capitals, they each get a section of the main faction capital.
or B: goblins build a new capital, and gnomes take back gnomergan.
I thinks B is the more acurate one, after all, the worgen section in SW is confirmed, but the goblin section is not, this could mean they get teir own capital, and gnomes taking back gnomergan is definitly confirmed.
Afaik, the goblins are contructing their own capital city in Azshara. So they won't be hanging out in Orgrimmar with the other cool guys.
I also remember that it was stated for the worgen to be given a new district in Stormwind.
Now, this would leave the alliance one capital short. Since I'm pretty sure that Blizzards wants the number of capital cities to be equal, I guess it's time for the gnomes to re-take Gnomeregan.
Since both, the building of the goblin capital, and the re-taking of Gnomeregan could be a gradual process, we may experience something similar to the construction of the crusader's colliseum. Every patch could push the progress a bit further. Would be rather cool if it would be done that way. :-)
dude, u hit the nail so badly I am gonna take off my hat in your honor :P
that's one fantastic idea u got there, :D taking gnomer and building new goblin capital on the same style as the argent coliseum
Edit: several typos
Post by
Diaboros
Actually, if I remember, Azshara is becoming a 10-20 zone, and is being strip-mined by Goblins. It's much more likely Goblins will end up in Org, with their own segment (maybe that's what the backdoor will lead to, fixing, well, the back-door issue.)
Though, I do remember that the Battle for Gilneas City only occurs in one part of town, leaving the rest for Worgen.
But, it's much more likely Worgen will get their own district in SW and not get a capital.
Last time Blizzard added racial capitals (Exodar and Silvermoon) it wasn't all that successful, if only because no one ever goes there now, or ever, simply because they are instanced off from the rest of the world.
That, and Exodar suffered from poor design. Silvermoon, not as bad.
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Post by
admielke
Where do you think the worgen would get there capital? Because we all know that Gilneas will be a starting zone not a capital city. The same for goblins.
Goblin has their main home city
Undermine
on the island of Kezan.
They will start in an island off the coast of Azshara.
Worgen has their main home city
Greymane City
.
They will start at this city and work their way up to Silverpine and into Hillsbrad.
Post by
DSitC
Also look at this picture, is this a picture of the possible BG or maybe a capital city?
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/4/48/GreymaneCity.jpg
In the lower left corner, you can read "Graymane City
Ruins
" - I think this hints on it being a battleground rather than a capital city. ;-)
Goblin has their main home city
Undermine
on the island of Kezan.
They will start in an island off the coast of Azshara.
Worgen has their main home city
Greymane City
.
They will start at this city and work their way up to Silverpine and into Hillsbrad.
You seem pretty confident on that one. I don't think you are right. You got any sources on those claims? ^^
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Post by
Rankkor
Goblin has their main home city Undermine on the island of Kezan
before making claims point the lore source.
the island of kezan is a tropical island, (like hawaii) and as such it includes volcanos. one of them called Mount Kajaro.
source:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Kezan
during cataclysm (and you can see it happening on the trailer) kajaro erupts sepulting half of the island in molten lava, a few goblins manage to escape the island before it's completely flooded with lava.
goblins (the playable ones) start out in kezan (we may, just posibly "may") be able to see the undermine, but it will not be the goblin capital, they left the place for a good reason, the malestrom became more violent, shaking many if not all of the islands on the great seas, and destroying kezan completely.
after kezan's destruction goblins naufragate on the lost isles, wich serve as their starting zone for all the way to lvl 15.
and after that they go to azhara
Source:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Lost_Isles
so, all in all, while it's not yet confirmed where is their capital, we can bet 100% that they won't go to undermine, it's buried in lava, and even if it wasnt, the maelstrom's more violent nature will make living on islands a real nightmare, they will want a capital that's located on an actual continent.
Worgen has their main home city Greymane City.
didn't u read what was said above?
u can't have 2 enemy capitals so close to one another, it's crazy, the pvp would be terrible, low lvl players would never b able to quest in peace.
Gilneas is on silverpine, and silverpine is less than 2 miles away from undercity.
that's why during the course of the worgen starting quests their kingdom as well as their capital its utterly destroyed, and they flee their former capital after decades of having locked themselves in.
for all we know, they have their section of stormwind, if they get their independent capital, I can say 100% is not gonna be gilneas, it's too close to another horde capital.
for pure gameplay reasons, oposing capitals HAVE to be far from one another.
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