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Will Bears be able to Raid Tank again?
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Post by
Fanoran
your raid leader is either ignorant or stubborn.
QFT there are too many people in this game who are like that. I guess i can't talk too much crap though, i'd refuse to let a DK main tank a raid -.- Just saying it cuz im a druid tank lol
Post by
hashmel
bears are fine
we have a stamina multiplier of 148.665% which is above that of pallies even (pallies have 114.48% talented)
we have a passive 12% reduction on ALL damage
we don't block but we have savage defense that reduces damage in a similar manner
we can reach 40% dodge quite easily while still having a weapon chant, idol, dodge trinkets, and additional buffs to shoot us up even more
our aoe capability is quite effective as it has no cooldown and isn't limited to standing in 1 place
our oh *!@# buttons (SI and FR) are unbeleivably potent
we have an additional 20% damage reduction on a 1 minute cooldown with a set bonus to reduce it to 48 seconds and lasts 12 seconds
we can effortlessly maintain aggro on 1-2 mobs and unless dps single nukes different mobs can maintain aggro on trash with a single button while not being limited by a cooldown or location
we can apply a 20% attack speed reduction debuff to multiple targets faster than a pally
we have an aoe psudo taunt
we have a charge
we're druids and as such the most respected class our faction has by the opposing faction
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Post by
Lightrain
There are only 2 types of raid bosses that IMO should be tanked by other tanks. Interuptable/High spell damage bosses, and bosses that hit really fast. Our mitigation is crit based, and we don't swing fast. I'm not sure how many of those bosses are around anymore tho....
The only reason bears aren't seen as much is because kitty dps is more valuable than another tank(most of the time).
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Post by
Thror
Amusing thread.
Post by
hashmel
bears do fine if not better than all but DKs on heavy magic fights, idk where bear+magic damage=bad came from
DKs are the superior magic tank with AMS but druids have 12% damage reduction and the stamina to back it up, each magic attack deals less percentage of a bear's max health than others,, most boss magic isn't reflectable (spell reflect)
you shouldn't rely on your tank to be on interrupt duty anyway, you've got rogues and mages, use themA druid that is properly geared can definitely tank any fight currently in game.
Post by
dfa2001
I am a bear tank and have mt ed all of TOC 10 and 25 man. I am Usually sitting around 50-51K life and have about 50% dodge with my greatness trinket. I am not in the Best gear but my gear is decent. I have had most healers say they would rather heal me than an equally geared tank. So are bears viable yes absolutely.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mug%27thol&n=Bloodysewati
Post by
pelf
Druids are horrible tanks. Everyone else is better. They're getting deleted in Cataclysm.
Post by
Aadramelekh
Druids are horrible tanks. Everyone else is better. They're getting deleted in Cataclysm.
Aahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa haaa ha ... ha.
/applaud
My guild has three big bad tanks:
THIS
guy,
THIS
guy and
THIS
guy.
Yesterday evening, the DK couldn't attend the raid. So I was chosen to fill up for him as third tank. My tanking gear is lower than theirs. But I still had 52K HP, 50% avoidance and 33K Armor raid buffed. The warrior and paladin had ~51K HP, ~55% avoidance but none of them passed 27K armor. Someone fu*ked things up at Icehowl and he enraged after killing a guy with his charge (this was on HC difficulty). He immediately turned towards Mr Warrior who got instagibbed. The paladin was on the other side of the room, running, I was right near the boss. I popped Juggernaut's Vitality, Survival Instincts, FR and Barkskin and taunted. Needless to say he couldn't kill a nearly 90K HP tank, not even after three consecutive hits, giving time to the healers to omgspamheal me before his enrage expired.
So yeah, I guess Bears are the worst tanks of all, boohoo :<
Post by
Thror
Woah Aadra, your guild sure has been lucky with the
Juggernaut's Vitality
drops. Bad faction champions won't drop it for my guild.
Post by
Aadramelekh
Yeah and last night they dropped it on HC difficulty as well... Bloody
Juggernaut's Vitality
+
Juggernaut's Vitality Junior
tanking combo FTW >_>
Post by
pelf
It's a lot of stamina. Our Paladin tank has both of them as well.
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Post by
Heckler
Why be in a guild when others tell you what to do?
Being told what to do isn't automatically bad -- I wouldn't want to be in a guild that was total anarchy -- it only becomes bad when the guy giving the orders is ignorant or obtuse (sadly, this seems quite rampant).
I offtanked ToC10 last night in full Emblem / ToC gear (most gemmed/enchanted for Cat), and it went swimmingly (aside from cringing at the fact that I could have out-DPS'd everyone there).
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