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Why Varian is evil.
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Chasecanales
I dont understand why Blizz brought in Varian. Im kinda mad that bolvar died -.- and that varian just messed crap up. He invaded UC, almost tried to kill Thrall (No wai of THAT). Blizz must have wanted him to be a bully or something...
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xaratherus
Im kinda mad that bolvar died
Speculation says that Bolvar isn't dead.
When you complete the Wrathgate scene, if you rush down to Alexstrasza you can witness the following conversation:
Korialstrasz says: My Queen, do they know?
Alexstrasza the Life-Binder says: No, my beloved.
Alexstrasza the Life-Binder says: Ashj zila gul kirasath lok ante il lok buras danashj Gul gul
Korialstrasz nods.
Korialstrasz says: They will not.
Alexstrasza whispers: Come to me, <name>.
Supposedly the translation of the line in Draconic is, "They must not discover the fate of the young paladin. Not yet."
This is from the WoWiki article on
Bolvar
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More on-topic: Varian is who he is because of the racial prejudices of Azeroth. While he does have an blade to grind with the Horde, he has become overly zealous in his pursuit of eradication of his enemies.
Purely speculating here, but I think that at some point in the near future we may see Jaina take steps to keep Varian from becoming the same sort of horror that Arthas became. There are some clear parallels between the two, in my opinion.
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Dralas
@ Dobbel, please read Procul's post.
Also, You don't seem to realize everything Varian went through with the orcs.
Seeing his father killed by an orc they trusted
Watching his beloved city burn to the ground because of the orcs
Being captured by the horde later on and forced to fight in their arenas
Nearly assissinated by an orc on his way to negotiate with the horde for peace after his return to Stormwind
The Broken Front event where the Horde killed the Alliance from behind during a fight with the scourge, killing both sides, and worse, allowing the scourge to begin raising the Alliance as undead minions
The wrath gate event, which to Varian still looks like it was the horde's fault for not controlling RAS
The outbreak with Garrosh (Yes, Garrosh did start that fight)
These are only a few of the examples, but you get my point.
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hymer
King Varian may be stern, and he may be distrustful, but he is as fine a warrior king as Stormwind could hope to have. As people have pointed out, he has become what he is from hard experience. In a situation when the human race and culture seems threatened from all corners, it's no wonder that King Varian uses hard measures. He has faults. Betrayal is not one of them. He has come through time and again, and his rule still stands, the human spirit undiminished.
I think it's a mistake to call humans bad or evil. There are plenty of bad and evil humans, but the same goes for almost any race or culture in Azeroth or the Outlands. There are or were mighty paladins of shining example amongst humans. Thrall is what he is because he grew up with humans. Mankind also has many good sides that we would do well not to forget.
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Kristopher
Every race in Azeroth has its faults. But, you cannot blame the humans for the actions of their king. Yes, it seems like he doesn't think before he acts. Would you love the orcs for:
Burning down your home city.
Attempting to assassinate you.
Killing your Father, and then your father figure( I think?)
Taking you into captivity. and forcing you to compete in arena, where the only way out is death or escape.
Failing to control the RAS, the beasts that murdered your (best friend/captian/champion?)
Attacking your people from behind at Ahn'Qiraj, and ruthlessly murdering an army of your people, and letting their lives be desecrated by the scourge.
Willingly drinking demon blood and slaughtering a race of innocent people.
(Yes, I realize these have been said before. This is just for more emphasis. This is only what I've seen/heard.)
So, all in all, with these facts, you could (wrongly of course) accuse Thrall of being evil.
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remains
In the next X-pack....
: The word has spread that King Varian, has sent bounty hunters to kill Gromash hellscream, at the point of destination the bounty hunters almost kill him but Thrall heals him with his shaman powers (Yeh, He's OP) and calls all his men... then they go to Undercity to warn the Lady herself... eventually the entire Horde goes to SW to kill varian... once inside the keep the horde fights the alliance inside SW, while Hellscream ignores the orders of thrall and goes inside the keep... he steps foot inside the keep, the doors close and He is stuck inside the keep with King Varian.. Thrall breaks thru the door, only to see Varian slowly killing Hellscream, thrall saves the kid again by sacraficing himself... at that point Hellscream kills varian... everyone stops fighting and return home... hellscream becomes the new Warlord and the horde wins... The END.
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