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Why are librams so difficult for blizz?
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Post by
Sgtpain
Is it just me, or is this libram garbage?
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45145
when a level 200 libram that we have had since the beginning was this
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40707
If the rotation is done properly, there is only a max of about 1 second the Libram of Obstruction MIGHT come down, so why was it necessary to come out with a libram with alot less mitigation but more uptime?
While we're on the topic, is
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45510
any better than
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40191
, or is it just yet another garbage libram?
Post by
Dunsinane
They introduced the Libram of the Sacred Shield in 3.1 with Ulduar.
They changed how BV through items works in 3.2.
In 3.1, LotSS was an upgrade. Now it's crap. The game changed, they just didn't bother modifying a single item to be useful in the new patch. Not that LoO is difficult to get, even if you'd tossed it out for whatever reason.
Post by
Sgtpain
So if BV has affected librams with BV, how is LoO rated now? Is it not that great either? I still have LoO, but have the emblems for something else if one of the new ones are better for tanking.
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Post by
Xhaosrenac
I personally use
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40337
simply for the threat on trash pulls although I don't mind it for boss threat either. I don't particularly care for BV though and it seems that people are using it more now despite the fact you block optimally say 3K of a 15K hit? Whereas if you stack dodge/parry you dodge the entire hit? Granted I am block capped, I just choose not to use items that have it. With the exception of Conq pieces.
Post by
Synectics
I personally use
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40337
simply for the threat on trash pulls although I don't mind it for boss threat either. I don't particularly care for BV though and it seems that people are using it more now despite the fact you block optimally say 3K of a 15K hit? Whereas if you stack dodge/parry you dodge the entire hit? Granted I am block capped, I just choose not to use items that have it. With the exception of Conq pieces.
Block Value isn't just for blocking -- your
Shield of Righteousness
depends on Block Value for its damage (Holy damage at that), and therefore the higher your block value, the bigger hits you get. So... more threat. :)
Post by
Ferel
I'm still wondering why there hasn't been a FoL PvE libram since
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25644
or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28592
. I'm gonna arena this season if I have to, but just for a relic?... I don't care whether it's SP (heck I'd settle if it was less than Hateful Glad even) or some lame proc effect. I want something better than a BC relic, or at least make the outdated arena librams up for honor.
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Post by
frmorrison
To be honest, who cares much about the old librams anyway? Even if you are not a bleeding edge hardcore raider, just do the heroic daily for a fortnight and grab the shiny new
tank libram
or
dps libram
from the triumph vendor.
Again this.
If you are using SoV, the 200 strength proc has a 95% uptime (so 190 strength). The Prot libram has a 80% uptime, so worth about 160 dodge rating. Both are outstanding, and perhaps too good.
Post by
TheJohan
But.. the triumph emblems..
I really would want to use them for other things... :|
Post by
Solace
How about a libram with some stats. Who cares about these gimmick procs.
Post by
laitaro
when did a basicly passive 3-4% dodge or 190strength start counting as "gimmick" ?
Post by
MischievousLoki
when did a basicly passive 3-4% dodge or 190strength start counting as "gimmick" ?
It's basically a 3rd trinket.
Since when are trinkets gimmicks?
The only real problem is that they keep making useless ones and passing it off as variety.
Post by
Synectics
The only real problem is that they keep making useless ones and passing it off as variety.
^ this.
Post by
Solace
when did a basicly passive 3-4% dodge or 190strength start counting as "gimmick" ?
It's basically a 3rd trinket.
Since when are trinkets gimmicks?
The only real problem is that they keep making useless ones and passing it off as variety.
Even trinkets have stats on them.
Post by
MischievousLoki
when did a basicly passive 3-4% dodge or 190strength start counting as "gimmick" ?
It's basically a 3rd trinket.
Since when are trinkets gimmicks?
The only real problem is that they keep making useless ones and passing it off as variety.
Even
some
trinkets have stats on them.
Not all trinkets have passive stats, and the ones that don't have a really good proc.
Fury of the Five Flights
or
Illustration of the Dragon Soul
=
Those two great Ret and Prot librams.
You're just whining over semantics. The librams definitely have a great effect. Just because it's not on your character sheet while you're out of combat doesn't mean they're not
damn
good.
Post by
ArgentSun
To be honest, who cares much about the old librams anyway? Even if you are not a bleeding edge hardcore raider, just do the heroic daily for a fortnight and grab the shiny new
tank libram
or
dps libram
from the triumph vendor.
Again this.
If you are using SoV, the 200 strength proc has a 95% uptime (so 190 strength). The Prot libram has a 80% uptime, so worth about 160 dodge rating. Both are outstanding, and perhaps too good.
Incorrect. The DPS Libram has 70% to proc off your periodic SoV damage. You get 5 ticks before the buff falls off. The chance of it falling off is 0.35, which is
way
less than 1%. Heck, it's 0 for all we care. You are pretty much guaranteed a refresh every 3rd stack at most.
Same with the Tank Libram. It's 80% chance to proc, and you can fit 3 Hammers of the Righteous in the 18 seconds duration. That's 0.23 chance for the buff to fall off - again, way less than 1%, and close to 0. In my experience it's always refreshed no the second Hammer.
Post by
Solace
Fury of the Five Flights
or
Illustration of the Dragon Soul
=
Those two great Ret and Prot librams.
These are librams?
Post by
MischievousLoki
Fury of the Five Flights
or
Illustration of the Dragon Soul
=
Those two great Ret and Prot librams.
These are librams?
We were comparing librams with trinkets
remember?
They're
amazing
trinkets with absolutely
no
passive stats.
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