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When Sargeras is rezzed, where does Kil'Jaeden stand?
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Post by
donnymurph
Yes there are a ton of antagonists out there, but Kil'Jaeden (and by extension, Sargeras) is responsible for every one of them. They drive all antagonism we have seen in this game series so far. There is not one single event, not one, that somewhere deep down at its basest level, doesn't have something to do with either Sargeras or KJ.
Think about it - who corrupted Azshara? Illidan? Medivh? Gul'dan? Ner'zhul (and by extension Sapphiron, Kel'Thuzad, Anub'Arak, Arthas?) Kael'Thas? I could go on for hours.
As for the faction thing, personally, now that I do know a little bit of Warcraft lore, I think the faction setup at the moment is absolute rubbish (the fact that we can play a night elf as a member of a faction is almost unforgivable). Actually that is one of the main reasons I play Horde - I love the elven races, and I refuse to accept the nelfs as part of the Alliance, therefore I roll blood elves.
Post by
HiVolt
Yes there are a ton of antagonists out there, but Kil'Jaeden (and by extension, Sargeras) is responsible for every one of them. They drive all antagonism we have seen in this game series so far. There is not one single event, not one, that somewhere deep down at its basest level, doesn't have something to do with either Sargeras or KJ. While this
is
true, it doesn't mean that Warcraft has to end if the Legion ends. I honestly think that the Old Gods could be shifted into the position that the Legion holds as the greatest threat to Azeroth rather easily. Sure, they don't have the clout that the Legion holds right now, but who's to say that the storyline can't shift in their favor?
As for the faction thing, personally, now that I do know a little bit of Warcraft lore, I think the faction setup at the moment is absolute rubbish (the fact that we can play a night elf as a member of a faction is almost unforgivable). Actually that is one of the main reasons I play Horde Well, in my opinion, all things are subject to change for the sake of story development. The only reason that most people don't like the idea of the Night Elves being playable is that we don't know what went on in the four years between TFT and Vanilla. I could say the same with the Forsaken and the Horde, really... but I guess I can live with it.
- I love the elven races, and I refuse to accept the nelfs as part of the Alliance, therefore I roll blood elves. Ugh... elves. I guess to each their own.
Post by
Adamsm
Think about it - who corrupted Azshara? Illidan? Medivh? Gul'dan? Ner'zhul (and by extension Sapphiron, Kel'Thuzad, Anub'Arak, Arthas?) Kael'Thas? I could go on for hours.Yeah.... but think about this; since the Draenei retcon, it's now completely on the Dreadlords for Sargeras corruption, rather then the Eredar/Dreadlord alliance, and maybe, just maybe, Blizzard will go with the idea that the Dreadlords are the Hearlds of the Old Gods, which means all of this has just been a plot by the tentacled freaks.
Also, Sargeras himself corrupted Azshara and Illidan, during War of the Ancients. Medivh was taken over by Sargeras(or an avatar) but didn't have full control.
I wouldn't say Kil'jaeden had much to do with the Scourge beyond setting up Ner'zhul in the armour and placing the Dreadlords as his jailors... which was a bad idea, as they failed pretty badly. Even sending Illidan after Arthas and the Lich King, he only did so because he couldn't go to Azeroth himself.
Kael'thas willingly gave himself up; he had a plan to take control of the Legion and turn them all into mana batteries.
Post by
HiVolt
and maybe, just maybe, Blizzard will go with the idea that the Dreadlords are the Hearlds of the Old Gods, which means all of this has just been a plot by the tentacled freaks.What a twist!
Post by
Adamsm
and maybe, just maybe, Blizzard will go with the idea that the Dreadlords are the Hearlds of the Old Gods, which means all of this has just been a plot by the tentacled freaks.What a twist!
Heh, yeah, that idea has been floating around in my mind for a while.
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Post by
donnymurph
Kael'thas willingly gave himself up; he had a plan to take control of the Legion and turn them all into mana batteries.
My point still stands because
a) The reason he needed more mana was because of the tainting of the Sunwell by Arthas, who was corrupted by Ner'Zhul, who was corrupted by Kil'Jaeden, and
b) If KJ and the Legion didn't exist in the first place, Kael'thas wouldn't have come up with the idea.
Yes, I take the concept of the butterfly effect to the extreme XD
EDIT: ^ I am a sir...
Post by
Adamsm
Kael'thas willingly gave himself up; he had a plan to take control of the Legion and turn them all into mana batteries.
My point still stands because
a) The reason he needed more mana was because of the tainting of the Sunwell by Arthas, who was corrupted by Ner'Zhul, who was corrupted by Kil'Jaeden, and
b) If KJ and the Legion didn't exist in the first place, Kael'thas wouldn't have come up with the idea.
Yes, I take the concept of the butterfly effect to the extreme XD
EDIT: ^ I am a sir...
Then in that train of thought.... it's all the Dreadlords fault; as they Corrupted Sargeras who corrupted Kil'jaeden, who corrupted the Legion, who......... heh.
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