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When does Fury surpass or equal arms?
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Post by
PinktheDK
I'm just getting into Uld10 on my new main, and I much prefer Fury, though arms is currently putting out much higher DPS for me. I have heard tell that Fury begins to win again when you gain two high-end weapons to dual-wield. My question is simple - when does that happen? Uld10? 25? Hardmodes?
I really want to go Fury again, but I can't justify the DPS loss from not being arms.
(Armory Link is in my sig)
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185284
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Post by
pak52b
well, that seems a bit exagerated imo... i think end naxx 25 gear, incl. weapons and you should be fine.. at least i didnt have problems performing similarly / better than equally geared arms warriors..
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169025
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Post by
pak52b
believe me, he's not too far from the truth.
well, in the raids i'm in, and with the gear i have, i - as previously stated - have no problem competing and passing arms warriors DPS wise.
while "not too far from the truth", i still think that with end naxx 25 gear (basically once you get the "epic" achievement), you will be fine as fury..
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422275
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Post by
pak52b
lol, "not too far from the truth" means he was agreeing with you.
oops.. ^^
i think i'm getting paranoid here.. the... trolls.... are.. after.. me...
Post by
Foopeemoa
My personal experience was that at full Naxx25 gear, Arms was perhaps slightly ahead for most fights, but that was before the buff to Bloodthirst, so they're probably pretty even at those gear levels. It is very weapon dependent, though.
My overall advice is to stick with whichever spec you enjoy more, unless the difference is massive. If you are wavering between the two, just postpone the decision until you get another weapon. Ironsoul is very good for Fury, and you should have a reasonable chance of picking up a second one if you regularly do Ulduar 10. If you pick up the polearm from Vezax 10-man, you may want to stay Arms. I'm not sure if Ulduar 25-man is open to you, but if you are doing that, wait until one of the earlier weapons drops and then spec accordingly. (if you get a Worldcarver, go Arms, if you get Rune Edge, go Fury)
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Post by
Rubendesmet619
Can't say anything about his skilslevel.
Kolo, 5.8k DPS by me, neck, 2rings and a chest from Ulduar10, other is Nax25stuf(+OS25 valo gloves and titansteel helmet), using betrayer with an armsspec.
My clasleader since today, using 4/5 t8/t8.5, 232DPS mainhand.
5.6k DPS.
I also did go fury with 2x betrayer, with Naxgear IT AINT WORKING AT AL.
Full Ulduar25 gear minimum
Post by
pak52b
I also did go fury with 2x betrayer, with Naxgear IT AINT WORKING AT AL.
Full Ulduar25 gear minimum
meh? i'm not anywhere close to BiS or full ulduar 25 and i have no problems...
fury depends on stats.. you need to have the right mixture in order to succeed.. hit and expertise capped, a balance between crit and AP, and all the ArP you can get...
with the right balance, youll do fine.. and the balance is easily obtainable with naxx 25 gear.. throw in 1 or 2 ulduar 10 pieces and i dont see a problem..
Post by
Rubendesmet619
I also did go fury with 2x betrayer, with Naxgear IT AINT WORKING AT AL.
Full Ulduar25 gear minimum
meh? i'm not anywhere close to BiS or full ulduar 25 and i have no problems...
fury depends on stats.. you need to have the right mixture in order to succeed.. hit and expertise capped, a balance between crit and AP, and all the ArP you can get...
with the right balance,
youll do fine
.. and the balance is easily obtainable with naxx 25 gear.. throw in 1 or 2 ulduar 10 pieces and i dont see a problem..
Doing fine ain't hard, I do fine as fury(27expertise, 250hit, 35%crit, 4200AP unbuffed(with 2x berserkerenchant)) AL Ilv213 except for head(stil the crafted, KT25 and Razor10 doesnt wanne drop my head :( and some Ulduar10 pieces(rings/neck/boots/chest))
Looks pretty decent to me.
Problem is especiely if you have betrayer(or another axe/polearm) your better of as arms.
Post by
pak52b
Problem is especiely if you have betrayer(or another axe/polearm) your better of as arms.
to be honest, as fury, it doesnt really matter what type of weapon you use, unless youre after a racial benefit.. arms is ofc more wep dependant.
polearms are ofc a different story as you cant dual weild them
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Rubendesmet619
Problem is especiely if you have betrayer(or another axe/polearm) your better of as arms.
to be honest, as fury, it doesnt really matter what type of weapon you use, unless youre after a racial benefit.. arms is ofc more wep dependant.
polearms are ofc a different story as you cant dual weild them
Let me rephrase.
If at the end of Naxgearlevel your using an axe in one of either hands, respec.
Post by
pak52b
well, would you explain that? im not following tbh.. the only reason i can think of is axe spec...
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316250
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Post by
pak52b
well, ive got BoH, Worldcarver, Stormedge, Death's Bite as choices in my bags.. All axes - I don't see the reasoning behind "if you get an axe, go arms.. "
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300026
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Post by
pak52b
well, yes, i understand the reasoning that axe spec is powerful, but i dont think that saying just because you have an axe makes you better off in arms than fury..
edit: teh spelling
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