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345177
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
blademeld
That's not really much of a wall of text.
Plus the OP is at 70, might as get to 71 and make it less painful imo.
Post by
Leuthas
Well I seem to have left out the fact that I am capped at 70; and mainly interested in vanilla and BC raids. However, I got the expansion not two hours ago, just waiting to get home from college campus. <Grats to those on SC that have been waiting patiently to level with me. =D
Need to hit 80 in 5 days, I'll see how it goes. Though I am not looking forward to doing Naxx again; but apparently it's a ton easier than it was back when.
Post by
Raleandris
A faceroll doesn't quite cut it. Taking your junk out and flopping it on the keyboard has proven to put some challenge into the instance though.
Post by
Quest
INC WALL OF TEXT
those of us grinding to 71 don't have the luxury of chaining divine plea. In most cases we just grind and might take on a lower lvl instance (or raid in this case). sometimes to boost people threw for cash or just simply because it has gear and the mana issues will come up for you then especially if you have someone really underlvl during the boost and you need to keep a close eye on pats regardless. pull more you say but instances have a nasty habit in later stages to have things like stuns and interrupts that lead to many corpse runs if you are not on your toes or pull more than your heals can effectively support you because you CAN'T heal.
there my 7 cents added
tldr
Post by
Raleandris
INC WALL OF TEXT
those of us grinding to 71 don't have the luxury of chaining divine plea. In most cases we just grind and might take on a lower lvl instance (or raid in this case). sometimes to boost people threw for cash or just simply because it has gear and the mana issues will come up for you then especially if you have someone really underlvl during the boost and you need to keep a close eye on pats regardless. pull more you say but instances have a nasty habit in later stages to have things like stuns and interrupts that lead to many corpse runs if you are not on your toes or pull more than your heals can effectively support you because you CAN'T heal.
there my 7 cents added
tldr
So why reply?
Post by
svirve
INC WALL OF TEXT
those of us grinding to 71 don't have the luxury of chaining divine plea. In most cases we just grind and might take on a lower lvl instance (or raid in this case). sometimes to boost people threw for cash or just simply because it has gear and the mana issues will come up for you then especially if you have someone really underlvl during the boost and you need to keep a close eye on pats regardless. pull more you say but instances have a nasty habit in later stages to have things like stuns and interrupts that lead to many corpse runs if you are not on your toes or pull more than your heals can effectively support you because you CAN'T heal.
there my 7 cents added
tldr
QFT
Post by
kamodius
For what it's worth, I'm having a helluva time keeping mana.
Now, I'm not QQ'ing because I can't just go full-out any more, because I think our mana regen was a little out of hand.....
but
....
When I start my 6969 rotation, I'm at 54% mana before I'm done. If I continue through one more full rotation, I'm generally sitting at 11% mana. At that point, I have to hope that I've front-loaded enough threat to sit there with Holy Shield up and use avoidance to regen via BoSanc.
It seems that Blizz wants us to go back to Seal-dancing, because if I'm using SoW, my mana's generally fine. When I switch to SoCorr for a boss, I have to hope I'm taking enough damage for 2/2 Spiritual Attunement to do it's thing, or I"m hosed.
I had to chug a couple of pots for the first time in quite awhile yesterday.
Overall, do I think that Blizz may have over-done the mana nerf? Yeah, a little. Do I think it's "to the ground, baby?" No, I don't. We're not facerolling anymore, which is nice. Mana management on top of the timing of the 6969 is pretty nice from a keeping-my-attention standpoint. Would I like to see the cost reductions for Avenger and HotR come back? Yes, I would.
My $0.02
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345177
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Quest
For what it's worth, I'm having a helluva time keeping mana.
Now, I'm not QQ'ing because I can't just go full-out any more, because I think our mana regen was a little out of hand.....
but
....
When I start my 6969 rotation, I'm at 54% mana before I'm done. If I continue through one more full rotation, I'm generally sitting at 11% mana. At that point, I have to hope that I've front-loaded enough threat to sit there with Holy Shield up and use avoidance to regen via BoSanc.
It seems that Blizz wants us to go back to Seal-dancing, because if I'm using SoW, my mana's generally fine. When I switch to SoCorr for a boss, I have to hope I'm taking enough damage for 2/2 Spiritual Attunement to do it's thing, or I"m hosed.
I had to chug a couple of pots for the first time in quite awhile yesterday.
Overall, do I think that Blizz may have over-done the mana nerf? Yeah, a little. Do I think it's "to the ground, baby?" No, I don't. We're not facerolling anymore, which is nice. Mana management on top of the timing of the 6969 is pretty nice from a keeping-my-attention standpoint. Would I like to see the cost reductions for Avenger and HotR come back? Yes, I would.
My $0.02
Judge and seal wisdom
Divine Plea. Use it.
Blessing of Sanc is the tanking blessing. Bless it.
PULL MORE
Replace Consecration with Exo.
.
.
.
.
There is no mana nerf, you just have to get away from cruse control mode. Full 969 is sustainable with 1/2 SA if you take 1.6K dps.
Post by
slasher0161
There is no mana nerf, you just have to get away from cruse control mode. Full 969 is sustainable with 1/2 SA if you take 1.6K dps.
SS or it didn't happen, although that sounds perfectly reasonable and yea you have mana leaking from all your extremities if you have a healer and take any reasonable level of damage
Post by
kamodius
There is no mana nerf, you just have to get away from cruse control mode. Full 969 is sustainable with 1/2 SA if you take 1.6K dps.
SS or it didn't happen, although that sounds perfectly reasonable and yea you have mana leaking from all your extremities if you have a healer and take any reasonable level of damage
I think probably this is my issue.
I'm fairly close to avoidance-capped (102.6?) and been uncrittable for quite awhile, so maybe my problem is I'm just not taking enough damage anymore. I'm speaking in heroics. In 10-man stuff, I don't have any issues, but having to drink after every heroic pull or 2 is getting a tad irritating.
Maybe I'll try running a heroic without pants. :P
Post by
pelf
tldr
So why reply?
Whoosh?
Post by
pezz
Take Spiritual Attunement and tank facing backwards, that ought to do it. Be sure to yell vague threats at your healers about mana if you catch them shielding you or telling you to turn around.
Post by
Leuthas
I have barely a problem with mana anymore, currently I am level 73 (missed my 5-day level 80 goal, painting the house and my game-time cutoff snuck up on me). I keep Divine Plea up 100% of the time, doing continuous pulls throughout the instance. I generally only have to put Divine Plea back up after bosses.
Anywho, Divine Plea seems to have solved the majority of any mana problems that I have. Not sure what 6969 would do for my mana, as I prefer not to use it. =O
Once I hit 80 I'll hop on a few Naxx 25 runs, I'll get to soloing some pre-BC raids. =D
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