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Warrior Tanks V Pally tanks
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Porcell
Your question is poorly posed. There are pros and cons to both. No clear cut answer.
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Fatalpower
The only problem with that is AoE tanks are always preferred, I think warrior tanks should get more threat enhancing abilities, having something like concentration on a warrior tank would be great, thunder clap doesn't really cut it.
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Neither is better and the fact that everything is compared to consecrate with the belief that it's the ultimate ability is crap.
Pallies have a larger stamina multiplier, more overall survivability, and a single fire and forget aoe with little room for error and ineffective if the mobs aren't in it for an adequate amount of time but can be laid in one place while the paladin moves elsewhere.
Warriors have a smaller stamina multiplier than all the tanks (WTH blizz), a point blank aoe on relatively short cd that slows attack speed and a frontal cone aoe on a medium cd that stuns. Single target warriors have unparalleled threat gen as well.
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Porcell
Neither is better and the fact that everything is compared to consecrate with the belief that it's the ultimate ability is crap.
The only thing I like about consecrate is that you can lay it down and it does damage over time. I was running some heroics and it's frustrating when you pull a largish group and they don't all get to you at the same time. So you need to decide to Thunderclap now and pick up the the 3 that are standing in front of me and then individually grab the two more that are lagging behind, or do I risk waiting, having a DPS behind me either attack or buff or have a trinket proc and pull agro from the mobs that are merely attacking me because of social agro...
Otherwise I think Thunderclap is slightly superior to Consecrate. I haven't looked super closely at a comparison, but I think the two are pretty even in threat and damage done, and we get the bonus attack speed debuff, and an unglyphed 6 second CD.
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Sakkura
The one major advantage that a Pally tank has over a Warr tank is Consecrate does IMMEDIATE threat to the enemy. "WTF? No, it's a DOT n00b! l2p!" What I mean by that is you can run in, Consecrate, and within a few seconds, have 10k threat up on ALL of the targets, meaning DPS can go nuts on whichever one they please, and not have to worry so much about pulling.
A Warrior, however, has to charge in, Thunderclap to gain some aggro, position the mobs in front of them, then Shockwave, in order to get that 10k threat up. That takes longer than what a Pally can do.
That is just wrong. Warrior snap AoE threat is excellent; it's
sustained
AoE threat we lack.
Especially annoying when you get extra adds while both thunderclap and shockwave are on cooldown.
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hashmel
the only real difference is
pallies are sustained threat, warriors are bursts of threat
warriors have better single target threat, pallies have better survivability
warriors have a smaller stamina bonus than every other tank, pallies get a cheat death mechanic...umm ok
pallies are generally your cruise control while warriors are your overdrive so while warriors require much more skill they'll be rewarded for it with superior tanking
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Rubendesmet619
the only real difference is
pallies are sustained threat, warriors are bursts of threat
warriors have better single target threat, pallies have better survivability
warriors have a smaller
stamina bonus
than every other tank, pallies get a cheat death mechanic...umm ok
pallies are generally your cruise control while warriors are your overdrive so while warriors require much more skill they'll be rewarded for it with superior tanking
Last time I checked warriors only had +6% from stamina so 10stam=106hp.
Now correct me if I'm wrong but last time I checked Paladins had more, because of lower basehealth they aint to far ahead, its a scalingissue as usual though
EDIT: Sigh, ignore this, happens when your replying at 4am...
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