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Views on Icecrown being 40-man
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Post by
Nitsud230
No.
Managing 40 people is hell. Not to mention the difficulty it will cause to raid rosters when you have 1 40 man raid, but then the next raids will be back to 25.
Most guilds have about 20 regular raiders and another 10 raiders who cycle through every week due to schedules or performance reasons; basically a bench. Bumping the maximum size of a raid back up to 40 forces them to recruit more players and a larger bench, who end up getting left out with the raids in the next expansion.
The issue is rather moot since Blizzard themselves don't want raids to go back to 40, though this was mentioned back before BC released.
Lol "moot" its on the jump to conclusions mat.
Post by
dumac
Does anyone here aside from me think that Icecrown should be a 40-man raid?
I think it should because the old 40-mans have kinda died out and they were always fun. Share your views on this.
Yes, I'm sure the 40 man raids were fun...for the <5% of the player base that could run them.
to be honest, MC was a 40 man raid and it was not just 5% who ran that at least. More around 10%-5%, to the nearer part of 10%. MC was not really hard in the later half of vanilla, it was hard in the beginning.
ZG/AQ20 was also around 10-15% of the base.
BWL was more the breaker, only the top who is 5% managed to progress BWL and upwards. 1% managed aq40 and under 1% was naxx, who was like 2-3 guilds perhaps 4 on a server.
I did play as a paladin healer upto twins in AQ40. There was good times and bad times, but i can understand why blizz had to remove it. Alot of player could not do the content due to share number needed to pull it off. But it was extremly fun to be in a raiding guild bcs you could stroll in IF and people looked on awe on you.
"The time epic really meant epic."
TBC was perfect to be honest, both hard and casuals friendly. I liked the mix alot, it was still not that easy to get epics at least in the beginning from kara and gruul. Also attunments quest was seriously epic. But it was alot easier to organise and pull a raid off. Later in tbc they removed the need to be attunt and that really broke my heart. Attuntment was a big step to get into raid in the first place and you felt like you earned you right to enter the place.
Wotlk is honestly alot commercialized, your heroics are a joke. Even the hard instance you cannot take a target dummy instead of a dps and pull it off with ease of 4 mans.
Naxx, os and eoe was a bit easy, i know they are starter raids. Ulduar is okey, but they nerfed it alot. Omg boss killed me mommy, now we qq so we can kill him!
Hard modes are good, but it is still feeling the game old feeling of raiding died. What was in vanilla is dead, so do not expect that vanilla feeling raiders, you will not find it now.
Anyways that is how i feel happend, but i guess it was needed so people of majority could raid, call me elitist but i think people from vanilla know that i am getting at.
Post by
doublediamond410
I don't really see how Arthas deserves a 40-man raid anymore than Kil'jaeden, Archimonde or Yogg-Saron.
I can completely understand players' anger over the idea of the Lich King getting downed by 10 players, but I think 25 is reasonable. (Which is why I actually would have preferred TBC's 10 / 25 setup but with Normal / Heroic modes.)
Post by
Lorkin
Troll yes, but he brings up a good point. I think the best move Blizz made in terms of raiding was shrinking raids down to 25 and 10 man versions.
40 man raids were basically 20-25 people dragging the remaining 20-15 people around to get gear. The new changes basically remove the "dead weight" and allow the true raiders the opportunities to get good loots. Besides, waiting for loot from MC/Onyxia/BWL/etc was just beat and took forever. I remember having to raid for weeks upon weeks in MC for an upgrade before I won the Spinal Reaper. Long gone are those days and I think the majority of people welcome that loss.
Post by
Billa
I love the 10 / 25 set up Blizzard decided to give us. 40 people is ... 40 freaking people! Its like if you combined a normal instance group with a normal raid and a heroic raid group, and have them all whack away. It would be like a 40-some, many leggs and arms and stuff everywhere. :p
Oh and also if it was my computer that was supposed to handle the lagg from 40 boys and girls, it would seriously bring my FPS down to the ever-so-feared number: one!
Post by
Abandonment
Well since making normal 10man and heroics 25man, I hope they make Icecrown:
Normal: 25 man
Heroic: 40 man
Though I hope getting to Arthas becomes like getting to Algalon the Observer.
Algalon the Raid Destroyer.
Post by
byrel
The lag would be extreme.
The commitment to such a raid would be impossible (or nearly so).
And....
TOO MUCH LAG.
for everyone griping about lag - in MC/BWL/AQ40/Naxx (original), lag wasn't really an issue the vast majority of the time
the reason that ICC won't be 40 man is that heroic raids are 25 man, and normal are 10 man - they announced making that switch back at the end of vanilla wow, and they're sticking with it.
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Wrestlol
No, because it would make no sense with current game design and philosophy. I can see where you are coming from though.
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147614
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Post by
Kainith
Yeah, you can look at my armor. Sold the account. Nowhatyougonnado?
Link the armory of your older one then, no one will belive its yours anyway.
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