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Unholy DPS spec
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Zandranas
Actually I'm running this right now and pulling 4-5k dps on Patchwerk.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfcMZG0xZf0hIxcdMcq0sout:rbLVMm
+10% to all your shadow dmg as unholy is amazing.
Ghoul Frenzy will only be a dps increase if you keep it up near 100% it will be a loss if your just using it haphazardly.
Desecration is +5% to all attacks, Impurity is a coefficient increase from your AP.
This will spec will not perform as well until you have some better gear or unless you always have a feral druid or fury warrior for the 5% crit you lose from blood.
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Zandranas
Confused, especially about Impurity as it gives a far larger dps increase then 3/5 Impurity. Why'd you drop them for the Blood talents? Especially the latter 5?
^^ I'm lost on this, what are you saying here?
2H mastery affects all attacks made with a 2h, not just your white hits. So essentially this is +4% dmg to all your strikes in a tier 2 talent.
Impurity adds 20 to the AP contribution, not a flat +20% dmg. And it is only to your spells, not your strikes.
from Tankspot
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f200/41215-dk-attack-power-coefficients.html
Base
Anti-Magic Zone ____ 2
Blood Boil _________ 0.060 no dis / 0.095 with dis *
Blood Plague _______0.055
Bloodworms _______ 0.006 **
Corpse Explosion ___ 0.105
Death and Decay ____0.0475
Death Coil _________ 0.15
Frost Fever ________ 0.055
Howling Blast ______ 0.2
Summon Gargoyle __ 0.333¯ (Gargoyle Strike) ***
Icy Touch _________ 0.1
Unholy Blight ______ 0.013
So in example an well geared unholy DK with 5/5 Impurity and 5000 AP is using DC as their main RP dump.
So my beef against Impurity is that a +20% on DC .15% = a .03 AP contribution increase. So for your 5 talent points you get 0.18.
Without Impurity +750 dmg, with 5/5 Impurity 900 dmg.
Now 150 extra dmg isn't horrible, but it's not show stopping either.
Yes I miss Wandering Plague, but it shines in AOE dps (aka trash) and falls flat on boss fights.
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darkdog
Impurity is a unholy staple talent. Almost all of unholys damage is magic i'm surprised that its not further down the tree.
I don't have the math but i doubt that ghoul frenzy is worth a ss i think the max i have got is 500 dps from my ghoul raid buffed and a extra 25% (max not counting claws) does not sound worth it.
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Zandranas
2H mastery affects all attacks made with a 2h, not just your white hits. So essentially this is +4% dmg to all your strikes in a tier 2 talent.
Lynri - how is what you said any different from my opening statement?
2h Weapon Spec only affects strikes these being: PS, SS, White Swings, BS. That's it.
Except this>>
Whereas Impurity hits all but BS, White Swings and PS.
No -
Impurity affect your spells, not your strikes. If it affected all of our shadow dmg the way Black Ice does then I'd be singing it's praises to high heaven. It affects our spells. I provided the table for what Impurity affects - show me 1 strike attack on there.
Again I'm not saying Impurity is bad, I'm saying it only it's not the most incredible core talent that needs to be 5 tiers down. That said from this discussion I do plan on dropping my 3/5 in Bladed armor for 1/5 Impurity and 2/3 Wandering Plague again. I'll see if I can't get a couple 5 minute WWS parses up and loaded tonight.
Current vs. the above change.
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Zandranas
Impurity is a unholy staple talent. Almost all of unholys damage is magic i'm surprised that its not further down the tree.
I don't have the math but i doubt that ghoul frenzy is worth a ss i think the max i have got is 500 dps from my ghoul raid buffed and a extra 25% (max not counting claws) does not sound worth it.
Did you read the table? I'll admit I'm having a bad day, but your pushing my buttons here. If you "don't have the math" then review a combat parse. If you're pulling something out of deep left field I'm not interested ---> Bring something back to discuss other than a SWAG.
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Hackroche
Heres what i would use:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMZZfzbIxcdgcq0ssut:rbLVMm
the points in epidemic and morbidity can be moved around as you see fit.
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Tyrfiing
In aoe conditions I can do 3k+dps and on average around 2700-3000.
Well in what boss fights do you profit aoe? (:
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fozzyuw
Question,
How has Improv. Unholy Presence performed? I tried it for a little bit but didn't notice much change (still was hitting a cooldown wall in Unholy Presence) but I was still 'green' on Unholy rotation.
Is it worth it for Unholy DPS or is Blood presence still better to save yourself the 2 talent points?
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Zandranas
Didn't get on last night for various reasons so no WWS for reveiw. I'll get to them this weekend try to get a couple Unholy dps spec variations up for review.
Darkdog said his Ghoul does 500 dps - this a lot different then Malghanis saying he's getting a 500 dps increase via GF.
I'll try to run a ghoul only parse this weekend (with and without GF) and post to for review as well.
Post by
Deathadder99
Bladed armour +toughness =/= huge DPS increase
Bladed armour isnt that much of a dps talent except for tanks. Sure its GOOD, but theres so much other good stuff out there.
Im more of a tank but maybe something like this :
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jZG0xZfMhIxcdgcqMskut:pbLVMm
Edit:I think ghoul frenzy adds like 2% extra dps, but dont quote me on that, it might just be for dualwield builds.
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