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Trials of a Huntard: DPS
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Post by
Archery
Yes, I am referring to myself as a huntard, because I haven't a clue as to why my DPS (Survival Spec) has dropped so painfully low since 3.1 (I have since switched to BM so that I could tame Gondria). Before 3.1, I was pulling 2200 DPS unbuffed, afterwards around 1400-1600.
Now, I was using a macro before 3.1 for my shot rotation. I realize many macros were broken with the new patch. So, I removed Kill Shot. Everything works as its supposed to now, with the exception of Steady Shot (which didn't work before the patch either because of the cast time). I still have to weave in Black Arrow manually because the cool down keeps the macro from being spammable. Pre-patch my macro pulled 2200 DPS. Post patch, 1400-1600. I realize macros are frowned upon by many hunters because its always possible to post more DPS by weaving shots manually. So, in my desperate attempt not to be a huntard, I learned how to weave all 6 of my shots manually, using the shot rotation so many people discuss in these forums: Explosive Shot, Kill Shot, Serpent Sting, Black Arrow, Aimed Shot, and Steady Shot. Guess what? I post the same amount of DPS as I do with the macro... and yes, I am managing my cool downs effectively. I should be doing WAY more DPS than I am and this is my desperate attempt to figure out what the heck has happened. I have read and done everything I can think of doing and have, unfortunately, hit the frustration stage.
My armory is in my sig. HELP! Please!
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Post by
Archery
All I did to the cookie cutter spec you have posted is move the 3 points from Noxious Stings to Improved Stings. My reasoning for this was because I never, ever, ever use Wyvern Sting (its not even a part of the standard shot rotation posted throughout these forums) but, I did put one point in Wyvern Sting should I ever desire to use the shot. According to the tool tip, putting 3 points in Noxious Stings only increases my Serpent Sting damage by 3%, whereas Improved Stings increases it by 30%. Am I misunderstanding this?
I wasn't moving around at all. I am using the target dummies.
Post by
bwooffitt
With your gear and spec you should be well above 2k dps.
Are you sure its nothing stupid such as buying the level 1 ammo or being in viper too long?
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329854
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Post by
Archery
Fair enough. That shouldn't cost me 600 DPS though.
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Post by
Archery
Ok. I switched to the cookie cutter spec EXACTLY and see no improvement. I have the wolf from Hellfire Ramparts. I am using the Serpent Sting and Explosive Shot glyphs all ready. Nothing gives.
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Post by
Archery
I appreciate the response, but if you'd read the post in its entirety, you'd see that I have all ready learned how to weave shots manually. So basically, this information does me absolutely no good.
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120885
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Post by
Archery
All right. I'll do that then. One question, is it possible I have some setting checked or unchecked in Recount that would be giving me inaccurate DPS counts?
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Post by
JTFuller
This may sound like a stupid question, but have you bought all of your upgraded shots from the Hunter trainer? After last patch I had to re-buy all of the upgrades to my shots.
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Post by
Gunslinger
Target dummies are also for comparing DPS between builds. But they absolutely will not give you accurate DPS numbers for a real situation. They'll give you what your DPS would be if you were to attempt to solo Patchwerk, if Patchwerk were mechanical and not undead, and stuck below 20% health.
Post by
Meldiren
I would look at getting my glyph of Kill shot, and replace the hunters mark one. Getting off an extra KS or two in boss fights will bump your dps a bit. And get teh Steady shot glyph instead of SS one.
Stay away from macros, and use shot priority. Typically, when I start out, I open with a MD to tank, MS if multiple targets, Aimed if solo.
then my shots are: Black Arrow, ES, Serpent, Steady, ES
Use BA each time it is off cooldown. the extra 6% damage is sweet.
Use as many ES as you can, it takes priority over all other shots except KS.
As SOON as you can use KS, use it. And as many times as you can.
Also, make SURE you trained all levels of BA. I know several hunters that forgot to.
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Post by
Femimid
as surv and #$%^ and ur gear now? in hcs 2,2k dps would`ve been fine,but 1,4k in hc is ...low...i were around your gear and i had 2,4k in hcs,now i got 2,350 dps / 2,5k ..depending on what,the patch gave me more dps total in LONG fights such as naxxramas but lowered it by 500 if used in voa etc.i guess ur just using the shot rotation wrong or so,my rotation is to use serpent sting , explosive,steady,black arrow,multi,exp > repeat and if cd on B-arrow: s-sting,Explo,multi,steady,steady,exp > repeat..
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