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Totems ....wtf I don't think anyone has an idea what they do
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Post by
etrin
Last night I got invited to a fun little 5 man. Warrior, hunter, priest, DK and me as enh.
I dropped mana and flametongue at the back for the priest. I dropped windfury and tried a stoneskin.
Well the priest was like what does that do? EXPLINATION I don't need mana! so I dropped Healing Stream Totem. What does that do? EXPLINATION....but I am the healer
Is it legal to shove a totem up a priest A#$ ? LOL
could not drop Strength of Earth because of the DK.
Stoneskin they *!@#$ED... hell that doesn't help anyone. maybe during multi pulls. Use something else.
What the hell does everyone use I am a little pi$$ed right now.
If dk do not thro strength of earth.
If healer is a gift from God and a retard?
Mana Tide would have probably made her quit.
Everyone said stoneskin was a joke.
no one had any gripes about windfury, maybe they didn't see it :)
Post by
faia
you maybe need a explanation?
Well the priest was like what does that do? EXPLINATION I don't need mana! so I dropped Healing Stream Totem. What does that do? EXPLINATION....but I am the healer
Is it legal to shove a totem up a priest A#$ ? LOL
Some players play this game first time and only play one class so not familiar to totem and don't need mana? you encha you got your way to get fast mana but do the priest got that? (short version: its a group buff )
could not drop Strength of Earth because of the DK.
Stoneskin they *!@#$ED... hell that doesn't help anyone. maybe during multi pulls. Use something else.
This
is something you could spec into instead and it give much more for the points in first 3 tiars (if not pvp spec)
and then the Dk just blows his horn for Runic power and not overwrite totem since its a weaker spell
If dk do not thro strength of earth.
If healer is a gift from God and a retard?
Mana Tide would have probably made her quit.
Everyone said stoneskin was a joke.
no one had any gripes about windfury, maybe they didn't see it :)
sorry that part make NONE sense
Short version
log off steam somewhere else, and don't talk hell with blame on other . they say some armor free armor is worst then none armor? then make them make a good reason to that? because you explain that DK horn overwrite since you not speced for Enh-totems
Post by
etrin
sorry I was so ^&*!ed when I wrote this.
I found out later that the priest thinks that shamans are a joke and thinks that we should never be in any group. Basically it was just someone causing trouble.
Sad thing was all of the rest went right along with her.
If there is a dk in the group do not throw strength of earth.
I am Enh and have 3/3 in enhancing totems but he was convinced I was just screwing him up.
I do not know the math other than to say I read that that the totem was higher than him with 3 in enhancing totems.
Everyone said stoneskin was not needed. Well I don't understand that one.
No one had any gripes about windfury.
so I will continue to drop mana, flametongue, strength of earth when I drop totems.
is this the best thing I can do?
I am going to print out what they do so when someone says why I can quote it.
I guess cleansing and grounding if needed.
Any other suggestions are welcome and I am sorry about my fuddled writing. It makes you want to scream when if they don't know about a shaman you are #$%^
ps I kept up with the dps DK even though I spent time with totems and hex.
Post by
ellmo
First of all, if a character complains about your mana or healing totem you should seriously consider leaving the group, becasue someone complaining on free buffs is a complete idiot and you don't know what you can expect from them.
Second of all "Str of Earth Totem" > "Horn of Winter" because it can benefit greatly from talents and has a longer duration, so if your DK protested against this totem, he was also a total tool.
Third: stoneskin totem? Again, there was nobody in your team who could overwrite it with something more powerful as you didn't have a paladin. So it was a good choice, maybe not as good as Str of Earth.
However the most useful earth totem, with most utility (and giving a buff that no other character can provide) is a Tremor Totem. Which you should always use, unless you are not fighting enemies that can fear / sleep / charm.
Also never forget about Cleansing Totem. 5 minutes of continuous toxin dispels, second most important of Shaman totems in my humble opinion.
general rule of a thumb
there is no one good selection of totems for the all kinds of dungeon runs, you always need to take into account other characters, that provide buffs, and see what your party lacks.
For exapmle, if you're an elemental shaman running with a paladin, you should ask him for Blessing of Wisdom, then, instead of mana totem, you use healing totem. However as an Ench shammy you hardly need mana regen, so Blessing of Might would be your option, but then again your overal totem choice would be completely different.
I'm just saying you need to take some time and really think about what totems are going to be most useful for this particular run, especially when you have another shaman or paladin in the party.
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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
Most shamans don't take Enhancing Totems, either, so you can usually assume that SoE provides the same buff as HoW.
I don't think that's true. Enhancing Totems give you more AP than 3% more Int does.
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Post by
madstrategist
I'm elemental but the reason DK's still prefer horn over totem is horn generates runic power for them, if they have totem buff on they can not cast horn and gain the runic power
This is not accurate. DKs can still use the horn for runic power, it just doesn't give the str/agi buff.
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Post by
tomgc
So, you met some clueless (read: misinformed) people. Thats WoW. If somebody complains about me giving free buffs (unless the healer wants a challenge), i'll remind them that leaving the group removes my buffs from them.
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Post by
Syntaxis
Stoneskin is AMAZING for the effective health of your tank against melee mobs and bosses. It practically gives him a few thousand more hitpoints through passive damage reduction.
Healing Stream, look at it as a passive stamina buff. Every time it heals you for 200 hitpoints, it's as if you had 200 more hitpoints. It ticks every 2 seconds, so in the end it really adds up. There is no reason not to use it.
Anyway, what I typically use (as Resto that is):
Stoneskin Totem or Tremor Totem
Healing Stream Totem
Wrath of Air Totem
Flametongue Totem
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Post by
faia
you maybe need a explanation?
Well the priest was like what does that do? EXPLINATION I don't need mana! so I dropped Healing Stream Totem. What does that do? EXPLINATION....but I am the healer
Is it legal to shove a totem up a priest A#$ ? LOL
Some players play this game first time and only play one class so not familiar to totem and don't need mana? you
encha
you got your way to get fast mana but do the priest got that? (short version: its a group buff )
Correcting his english and yet doing the most retarded mistake yourself?
Its
Enha
ncement for gods sake.
did i ever correct his English?
just it was hard to see if he was the one acted stubborn not drop mana totem for group OR that group was idiot's
sorry on Enh if that made you cast SR:P
Post by
JamieK
Well, I have a level 79 elemental Shaman and i must have been lucky to have not encountered these idiots.
I mean if i was a healer (i will never be one) i would welcome an extra 100+ spellpower and better mana regen and if i was a tank or melee anything, i would welcome the extra armour (at level 79, my stone skin gives 1k more armour, for a clothie that is ALOT of armour.
In the end it depends on what classes you have in the group, if you have 2 shammys, then you can co-ordinate on what gets put down totem wise and we kicked the instances' butt.
If it happens again, make note of their characters' names and just don't group with them anymore, no one wants idiots like that in their group.
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