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Told gear was not good enough was they right or just an ass
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Post by
tankuid
Dont want to make this long and drawn out so i will just ask.
Was they right to kick me from a toc 10 normal group for being under geared or was this typical asses of the server. We tried twice and wiped but wipes because healers did not healer me when i was not aggring the boss. They claimed i was under geared and could not heal me.
Armoury link.
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Tankuid
Post by
Aadramelekh
Damn, armory seems to be unavailable at the moment. Please post your stats at that moment (HP, dodge, armor) and we'll see if they were right or not.
Post by
tankuid
I had
49k hp
44%dodge
armour was 67 or 68% reduced damage taken cant remember the exact number
Post by
Yunaleia
Short answer, no.
...
Healers must have been sucking on lemons or something.
~Yunaleia
Post by
Aadramelekh
Agreed. I saw your gear just now, Armory works. with those stats you can easily tank ToC 25, not only ToC 10. Healers sucked big time. Screw them. Too bad you had to run into them and have the unlucky raid Q Q
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317595
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Post by
tankuid
Thanks guys I fell better now i will set up my own totc 10 raid tonight knowing i am gear ready.
@small pockets thanks for the reminder of the hit rating and expertise switch i was meaning to change this but had forgot about it.
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423713
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Post by
Bearclaws
Could you care to explane more about when they said you were undergeared. Which boss?
You are good enough geared, but as people say, get the balance between HIT and expertise right.
Post by
tankuid
we was on first boss "Gormok the Impaler" i was tanking him first we start i take aggro healers keep me up then once OT taunts i die healers blame my gear .
Same again second time healers blame my gear as not good enough i get kicked from group..
yeah i am working on my hit/expertise.
Post by
Aadramelekh
once OT taunts i die healers blame my gear I think those healers need to blame themselves for forgetting that you have a DoT remaining on you (at four stacks it hits for 8K damage every two seconds in ToC10 normal). And even then, considering the time needed for that DoT to drain your 49K HP: (49 / 8)*2 = 12.25 seconds, then I really think they were morons.
Not noticing the tank's HP dropping 8K every 2 seconds even when the tank is below 50% HP means tunnel vision in my book. Those healers were probably so busy topping the healing meters on the other tank that they completely forgot you. Or focusing on DPS members in the raid that were too dumb to stay out of the fire bombs thrown by the snobolds. Or something. Either way, what happened in your case is only THEIR fault.
And in this situation, your hit / expertise had nothing to do with it. You died from the DoT because they forgot to heal you. Simple as that.
Relax, take a breath and move on :) Stupid people are everywhere and from time to time you are bound to cross paths with them.
Post by
tankuid
yeah i have now since then i have gone on to mt Onyx 25 man (not the hardest to tank but still) the same night i first ask about my gear. Its just the idiots on SH EU have a way of making tank feel like @#$% cause of there mistakes and after so many times you start to believe them.
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237811
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Post by
Timmeh
You can tank ToC 10 heroic with that gear, or 25 normal with that gear. I'm not much higher than you in terms of stats, and healers have often told me I'm a dream to heal on ToC10 normal and heroic, so yours probably just sucked.
Post by
curlymon
What you should have suggested was that the other tank pull first then you taunt off him. This way you could point and laugh when he died from the DoT and left the raid knowing they were idiots.
*stamp of approval*
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219211
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Post by
thekeeper
seems like they are getting off on showing us the door these days
since i just got kicked out of a nax 25 because i didnt use the 2 170stam brewfest trinks every tank on my realm use
christ its nax 25 it aint hard
before you say anything
i use DMC greatness and black heart
and this is the rest of my gear
link
also the reason i was in nax 25 was the fact i want that bloody origin staff :P
Post by
Dartx
Dude with 49K hp why the heck arnt you MT unless they out geared you but no way in hell is it your fault but you got some open spaces for belt gem/enchants etc but other then that no.
For once we can all blame the healers :P
Also maybe you should have paly healers instead that can beacon you and heal offtank at same time.
Post by
orthedos
Gear is not the only thing in a relatively new and tough raid like 10 ToC. 10s are sometimes tougher than 25, as you need everyone to perform. In a 25, you can carry 1 or 2 bad players, in 10, you cannot.
Some other issues also matter: heal assignment, tank coordination and so on, does result in a major difference. What is happening when you die. Is it an issues of snobolds eating the healer? Check your combat log, what is killing you? Ask the healers, before you die, who are they healing, if they are healing you, how much healing did they land on you.
One thing I do not like about healing druid tankss, they have a lot of hp, and tend to lose more hp for the same hit than other tanks. That means, the heal I usually land to top off a paly or warrior, does not always top off a druid. With DoTs, druid tanks seems to lose more hp than paly or warriors, my impression. I am not sure about that. Maybe I am wrong here, correct me please.
If they are regular team-mates, stop verbal arguments, and come together to work out how to beat the situation. If everyone call everyone else ass, there is no teamwork.
When we wipe, we look at combat log and talk, in vent, not here.
Post by
tankuid
This now seems to becoming a bad habit for the idiots on shattered hand EU server was in a TOC10 with my priest healer we had a paladin and druid tank.
Druid was simular gear to mine i was healing the paladin fine then we comes to the worms the other healer who was on the druid seem to just stop healing the druid died pretty fast the healer blames the druids gear so we wipe, the druid gets flamed saying your gear sucks get better gear and learn to tank.
He gets kicked from group I protest along with the other tanks saying bring him back or we leave I Told them I will heal him. He comes back I heal the druid no problem we ended up clearing the raid in about 40mins as we are leaving the raid leader then flames the druid once again saying it was his fault for the first wipe.. we later found out the failed healer was a friend of the raid leaders.
Is this happening on the other realms are druid tanks becoming an escape goat for the failures of those who dont know there class?
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