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Post by
Lightrain
No one's talking about the new bears so I will. =)
So, the bad part, they reduced our armor and stam(QQ, 46k hp in STAM gear raid buffed, prev 52k).
The good part!
-360 swipe makes picking up mobs amazingly easy! I always had the problem with my main target taking forever to get to me or being the furthest away when I'm approaching(usually a caster). Not having to have your target in range to swipe makes the headache of finding skull and X practically disappear(not to mention more rage from swiping targets on the way to it), meaning dps can start in quicker and more safely!
-I haven't seen savage defense. I'm sure it works, but I haven't seen anything showing in my buffs.
Does anyone else just love the new druid tanking style? It makes pugs easier to tank, and makes picking up raid trash less of a headache.
Post by
pelf
Hrm, actually there are lots of threads talking about all of this, they're just not all on the first page anymore. Catching Savage Defense in your buffs is like trying to run directly to where you saw a firefly. Most times by the time it's up, it's down again. (Actual latency-induced bugs in its functionality notwithstanding.)
I think we all agreed, in the other thread where we were talking about swipe, that it added useful capability while not truly morphing the original tanking style to something too dumbed down. You still have to stand with the mobs in front of you -- you can just pick them up while they're behind you too.
I'm kind of glad I got out of primary tanking recently and switched to kitty for raiding. Cat spec is putting out ridiculous numbers at present. Very competitive.
Post by
Lightrain
I'm kind of glad I got out of primary tanking recently and switched to kitty for raiding. Cat spec is putting out ridiculous numbers at present. Very competitive.
I can agree with that. I was trying to keep them from putting me in a tank position, but our lack of reliable tanks makes it tough...
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pelf
but our lack of reliable tanks makes it tough...
All the guilds I've been in have always been overflowing with 100% raider tanks. Go figure.
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Post by
Lightrain
Ya, we have 5 tanks in guild excluding me. 2 warriors, 1 pally, and 2 dk's. The DK's are typically DPS, and we usually only have 2 tanks on most of the time, while ulduar generally requires 3 tanks for a lot of the boss fights.
Post by
Aadramelekh
Screw them! They're not gonna make me tank now when I can pull 4500 DPS on lvl 80 target dummy self buffed! No bloody way. The only occasions where I'll tank are when other tanks can't attend the raid . Otherwise I'm the
rouge durid
kkthxbai! Me doez not heel, me doez not t0nk, I R
deepass
!
Side note: yeah, I like tanking just as much as I liked it before. If they could only address the latency issue about Savage Defense... Meh =/
Post by
Slimda
I was
forced
to tank last night! The.. the.. bastards!
they asked, I said "I don't care", and then I had to tank. QQ
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pelf
The extra 3 yard range on swipe is kinda nice, personally still not finding a use for the 360 area of it as positioning imo is really easy to encompass all the mobs anyway (it's not like we haven't had the practice to learn how to).
Again, it has pretty much nothing to do with how you tank them when you're stationary. Copying my post from another thread:
----------------------------------
With regards to Thunderswipe, once I remembered we had it, I started using it to my advantage. For example:
Given mobs represented by
X
s, in the past I might've positioned myself at the
D
with my swipe cone facing (generally) in the direction indicated. The rest of the raid is behind me and most of the healers are behind me. I will hit the bold
X
s, but the two stragglers on the left will probably not get hit immediately. I'd be relying on them walking towards me.
X
x
X
x x
x x
\ |
D
Now, I can literally stand at
D
and swipe. I will hit ALL of them and I don't have to rely on mob movement to bring them into range. I can gain control over larger groups faster. Once I've tagged them once, I can move so that they are in front of me again.
X x
x Dx x
x x
It's not really a question of, "Oh, I was already good enough with the cone swipe," as much as it has opened up new flexibility and
capability
in terms of picking up groups of mobs.
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Post by
Lightrain
-I haven't seen savage defense. I'm sure it works, but I haven't seen anything showing in my buffs.
Make sure you hit the trainer and buy it.
Hehe, that was actually my problem. I read it was passive, and didn't even think about the training.... I've tanked/OT'd everything up to and including Hodir without Savage Defense..... LAWL! /sheepish O.o
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Aadramelekh
Hehe, that was actually my problem. I read it was passive, and didn't even think about the training.... I've tanked/OT'd everything up to and including Hodir without Savage Defense..... LAWL! /sheepish O.oSS or it didn't happen! >:O
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