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Post by
Arannia
Yeah, well, I was having a chat with my friend about tanking.
Basically, it started off like this:
Me: "God, tanks who stack stamina whilst ignoring avoidance *!@# me off. All the tanks in my guild have %^&* poor avoidance and 45k HP, it $%^&es me off. Tempted to respec my Offspec, and do it the PROPER WAY. They even think that the "defence cap" still exists."
Him: "Wtf are you talking about? The defence cap exists, you SHOULD NOT GO PAST IT, and stacking stamina is the best gearing choice. Its like Holy Paladins who stack intellect!"
Well.. was a week or two ago and I may have forgotten ALL the details, but.. am I wrong, or is he? Bear in mind this comes from a healing perspective, though I may be respeccing my offspec (currently retlol) to tanking.
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XxOmuraxX
26k hp tank with nice avoidance and decent tps > 32-34k hp tank with poor avoidance and bad tps
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Quest
Him: "Wtf are you talking about? The defence cap exists, you SHOULD NOT GO PAST IT, and stacking stamina is the best gearing choice. Its like Holy Paladins who stack intellect!"
Top notch guild right here.
Post by
Bloodkittie
on defence u r right there isn't a "cap" but more of min req to be uncrit (aka 535 for heroic and 540 for raids) defence is avoidance gaining more give u avoidance.
now about having alot of stam instade of avoidance in my point of view it is a fail, u will make ur healers work hard healing u on a boss fight and only having more time to live per the hits that u get, while having high avoidance will give the healers more "smoth drive" on the healing cause every hit that geting avoid is 0 dmg...
but the best way is to go is balance, have large HP pool with a good avoidance that will give ur healers and the tank the "smoth drive" that every one wish it to be.
all those type of tanks can tank a boss if it is the one with the high HP or the one with the high avoidance or the balance one, but now come the question who from those tanks will make ur healers not to work hard just to keep him alive...
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Arannia
Him: "Wtf are you talking about? The defence cap exists, you SHOULD NOT GO PAST IT, and stacking stamina is the best gearing choice. Its like Holy Paladins who stack intellect!"
Top notch guild right here.
Guy in question is my boyfriend and not a guildie. Should've mentioned that 8D
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Post by
Squishalot
Him: "Wtf are you talking about? The defence cap exists, you SHOULD NOT GO PAST IT, and stacking stamina is the best gearing choice. Its like Holy Paladins who stack intellect!"
He is wrong and you are not totally correct.
1. The def "cap" exists but it is not a cap, but a minimum and you can go past it, unlike hit rating. After 540, each point of defense still raises your dodge/parry/block by .04% (25 def per 1%.)
2. Stacking stam is the primary objective of gemming/enchanting, HOWEVER for meta gem activation, good socket bonuses and when striving for that 104.2%, gemming for avoidance isn't a bad idea (just never gem parry.) You still want mostly stam gems.
This, by definition, means that Arannia is right. It was made very clear that there is no def 'cap'. There are a lot of tanks who do believe that stacking defence past 540 will have no additional effect on PvE, sad to say.
I don't think that Arannia ever suggested that stacking stamina is a bad thing. Just that doing so and completely ignoring avoidance is stupid. Like getting
this
and socketing it with 3 stam gems, instead of getting something more balanced and socketing to get the socket bonus.
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Squishalot
I don't think that Arannia ever suggested that stacking stamina is a bad thing. Just that doing so and completely ignoring avoidance is stupid. Like getting
this
and socketing it with 3 stam gems, instead of getting something more balanced and socketing to get the socket bonus.
Oh wow - I never even thought of that. Yeah, that is really really bad. Or tanks using PvP gear....yikes.
Yeah. I remember hitting 440 BS'ing and thinking "wow, that's a lot of stamina, that'd be awesome..!" Maybe I could gem for defence....
Ah, we were all young and stupid once. Except maybe Quest ;)
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hashmel
DO NOT use the polar gear for serious content..the only tanks who could ever get away with that are druids and nowadays serious content just drops better...still hate that i wear a dress now as apposed to a bug zapper chest lamp
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Quest
Him: "Wtf are you talking about? The defence cap exists, you SHOULD NOT GO PAST IT, and stacking stamina is the best gearing choice. Its like Holy Paladins who stack intellect!"
Top notch guild right here.
Guy in question is my boyfriend and not a guildie. Should've mentioned that 8D
This only means that you can smack him. Do it.
Post by
Quest
I don't think that Arannia ever suggested that stacking stamina is a bad thing. Just that doing so and completely ignoring avoidance is stupid. Like getting
this
and socketing it with 3 stam gems, instead of getting something more balanced and socketing to get the socket bonus.
Oh wow - I never even thought of that. Yeah, that is really really bad. Or tanks using PvP gear....yikes.
Yeah. I remember hitting 440 BS'ing and thinking "wow, that's a lot of stamina, that'd be awesome..!" Maybe I could gem for defence....
Ah, we were all young and stupid once. Except maybe Quest ;)
HAY
I was young once.
Post by
valundar
I don't think that Arannia ever suggested that stacking stamina is a bad thing. Just that doing so and completely ignoring avoidance is stupid. Like getting
this
and socketing it with 3 stam gems, instead of getting something more balanced and socketing to get the socket bonus.
Oh wow - I never even thought of that. Yeah, that is really really bad. Or tanks using PvP gear....yikes.
Yeah. I remember hitting 440 BS'ing and thinking "wow, that's a lot of stamina, that'd be awesome..!" Maybe I could gem for defence....
Ah, we were all young and stupid once. Except maybe Quest ;)
HAY
I was young once.
Suuuure ya were
GRAMPS
;-)
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