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Shred VS Rake considering high levels of ArP
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Post by
Lightrain
It's a simple concept. Refresh rake after the last tick every time. Period.
Think of it as added damage on top of the shred spam. You guys are saying "rake is worth X and shred is worth Y."
No. Stop.
Rake is a DoT. Shred is direct damage.
Affliction locks don't leave CoA off because Shadow Bolt is more DpS. It's the same concept.
Don't think about it, don't argue about it. Just do it. Keeping rake up will INCREASE your DpS. PERIOD.
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144872
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Post by
Lightrain
It's concrete enough for anyone that needs to ask the question to get used to doing it.
There may be small time frames where shredding will be worth more, than a tick or 2 of rake, and OoC procs should always be shreds or FB's, as well as during trinket procs, but that's not the point.
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Post by
Aadramelekh
Lightrain, at high levels of ArP Shred WILL produce more DPE than Rake. At that point it could be well worth it to Shred for 42 instead of Raking for 35 energy.
I did a little test run with ArP food + elixir (which puts me at ~420 passive ArP rating. The Grim Toll procs once per minute for 10 seconds, which means another 100 more ArP on average. So over a 5 minute DPS test you could say I had 520 medium ArP. With Rip Idol (yes, I am a wh
o
re for that Idol instead of Shred), I did *
almost
* the same DPS using only Shred / Mangle for CPs as I did using Shred / Mangle / Rake (~4800 DPS without Rake versus ~4950 with Rake). With Shred Idol it could be even better.
With that gear that provides 970 ArP rating (cap), Shred will be equal to or even better than Rake in terms of DPS -- remember that comparison of damage over time effects of Shred and Rake. The idea is simple: you can use 35 + 42 = 77 energy to produce from 6642 + 3321 = 9963 (Rake + normal Shred) to 6642 + 7505 = 14147 (Rake + critical Shred) or you can use 84 energy to produce from 6642 (2 normal Shreds) to 15010 (2 critical Shreds). Of course, with Rake + Shred you can argue that you always have at least 9963 damage in 8 seconds and a strong possibly (whatever the crit chance is) for 14147 damage in 8 seconds.
Of course, this 'Shred can crit' perk is a gun with two ends. With a lower than 50% crit rate for Shred, using Rake is better. Anything over 50% crit rate and using only Shred becomes a pretty viable alternative. It's like
foleynuts
said in the end - all about knowing priorities for your gear level.
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