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Seal of Command vs Martyr
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Post by
Samuriel
Why is Seal of the Martyr better than Seal of Command?
I know it has a 100% proc chance, but with a slow weapon Command comes near.
PvP
Command deals higher judgement damage and will ALWAYS crit on stunned target, any paladin would stun the target before facerolling which means you will crit here.
Command doesn't deal damage to you
Command has Librams to increase your critical strike rating by 173
The only reason I can think of people using Martyr is because of the 100% proc
Post by
Quest
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
Post by
Samuriel
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
No, it doesn't. Are you blind?
They do about the same damage except that command does MORE judgement damage and always crits on stunned targets.
And the patch isn't coming tomorrow
Post by
Robotusch
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
No, it doesn't. Are you blind?
They do about the same damage except that command does MORE judgement damage and always crits on stunned targets.
And the patch isn't coming tomorrow
Because Martyr is guaranteed to proc on every attack (white + specials), Command not so much. The fact that command is a guaranteed crit on stuns is a bit so-so, when you as a paladin only have 1 stun you can use while dealing damage to the target. Though in the previous season, while people were still gearing up on resillience gear, a ret pala teaming with a rogue could often use Command for obvious reasons.
And why would people use a libram with a
chance
to give them critical strike rating when using an inferior seal, when they could use a libram that guarantees them a permanent extra 144 attack power, regardless of what seal they use?
Post by
Quest
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
No, it doesn't. Are you blind?
They do about the same damage except that command does MORE judgement damage and always crits on stunned targets.
And the patch isn't coming tomorrow
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Post by
Samuriel
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
No, it doesn't. Are you blind?
They do about the same damage except that command does MORE judgement damage and always crits on stunned targets.
And the patch isn't coming tomorrow
Because Martyr is guaranteed to proc on every attack (white + specials), Command not so much. The fact that command is a guaranteed crit on stuns is a bit so-so, when you as a paladin only have 1 stun you can use while dealing damage to the target. Though in the previous season, while people were still gearing up on resillience gear, a ret pala teaming with a rogue could often use Command for obvious reasons.
And why would people use a libram with a
chance
to give them critical strike rating when using an inferior seal, when they could use a libram that guarantees them a permanent extra 144 attack power, regardless of what seal they use?
People who doesnt have any better libram (like me, new to retri) would use them. Command procs almost as much as martyr, and does the same damage.
Oh and also, I'm pretty sure command procs on abilities too
@Quest: Facepalm right back to you, spammer
BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE.
Doesnt matter by tomorrow anyway, so who cares.
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Post by
Squishalot
See my signature for details.
Post by
Quest
lol Sam is entertaining.
Id link you proof why SoB is better, but that would ruin this entertainment.
(aw I posted late Squish dont ruin the fun)
Post by
Samuriel
See my signature for details.
Thank you for a
real
answer, and ty robo, can you close threads?
Quest, go get your attention off someone else.
Post by
Quest
See my signature for details.
Thank you for a
real
answer
Quest, go get your attention off someone else.
Whats that?
YOURE WRONG?
/gasp /lol
Have fun using SoV tomorrow. ;)
Post by
Samuriel
See my signature for details.
Thank you for a
real
answer
Quest, go get your attention off someone else.
Whats that?
YOURE WRONG?
/gasp /lol
Have fun using SoV tomorrow. ;)
Tomorrow (for me) is a tuesday, patch days are wednesdays.
And how do you know when the patch is coming this week? Care to share?
Post by
Quest
See my signature for details.
Thank you for a
real
answer
Quest, go get your attention off someone else.
Whats that?
YOURE WRONG?
/gasp /lol
Have fun using SoV tomorrow. ;)
Tomorrow (for me) is a tuesday, patch days are wednesdays.
And how do you know when the patch is coming this week? Care to share?
SOC DOES MOAR DAMAGE!11
are you blind...
ARE YOU BLIND!
Post by
Samuriel
the proc does more damage, not the overall damage, which squishy proved. Not you, dont feel so big.
Also, you forgot to answer
Post by
Quest
the proc does more damage, not the overall damage, which squishy proved. Not you, dont feel so big.
Also, you forgot to answer
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Post by
Samuriel
the proc does more damage, not the overall damage, which squishy proved. Not you, dont feel so big.
Also, you forgot to answer
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Feels like im arguing with children.
Post by
Quest
Oh sorry did you want me to be serious with you after your blatant stupidity? Heres the
link
..
Post by
Synectics
Command procs almost as much as martyr, and does the same damage.
First of all, grats on bringing up a topic that's been brought up so many times that all I had to do was a quick search of "SoC SoB" on the forums to bring up:
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=50061
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=102444
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=17397
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=63546
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=58444
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=88997
And those are just the first handful.
Secondly, no it doesn't.
SoC, on a 3.4s weapon, will proc around 40% of swings. Swings include Crusader Strike and Divine Storm.
So unless 40% is the same as 100%... no, SoC does not proc "almost as much."
Post by
Samuriel
Command procs almost as much as martyr, and does the same damage.
First of all, grats on bringing up a topic that's been brought up so many times that all I had to do was a quick search of "SoC SoB" on the forums to bring up:
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=50061
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=102444
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=17397
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=63546
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=58444
http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=88997
And those are just the first handful.
Secondly, no it doesn't.
SoC, on a 3.4s weapon, will proc around 40% of swings. Swings include Crusader Strike and Divine Storm.
So unless 40% is the same as 100%... no, SoC does not proc "almost as much."
First of all, thanks on congratulating me.
Secondly, yes, I admit I was proven wrong there.
Was there anything else you wanted to say with that post I missed?
And Quest, I give up on you. You can't clearly act mature.
Oh and also, thanks for proving that this is the wrong forum to ask questions on ..
Post by
89501
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Synectics
First of all, thanks on congratulating me.
Secondly, yes, I admit I was proven wrong there.
Was there anything else you wanted to say with that post I missed?
And Quest, I give up on you. You can't clearly act mature.
Oh and also, thanks for proving that this is the wrong forum to ask questions on ..
You're welcome. ^_^
Quest did nothing but answer your question -- in all caps, yes, but then again, that's probably because he's sick of answering it. You're the one who jumped in with the rude "are you blind?" comment. :P He put it nice and bluntly for you.
Feel free to do a forum search before you post a question that has been answered a thousand times already on whatever forums you go to, though. Otherwise, they'll just /facepalm like we did.
EDIT: Tastefully put, Munkles, and beat me to the punch.
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