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Ret paly - decent dps on trash ... dps goes down on raids
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Post by
svirve
u need more expertise..i had the same problem casue if u look carful at ur attack on the bosses ur gonna see a lot of
misses
,
parries
, and doges since ur expertise isnt high enough.... i suggest get some expertise gear and the expertise glyph for ret pallies
Expertise doesn't affect misses -.- hit does.
The bolded part means you need to L2P.
Post by
Crackalackin
My gearscore is around 4500, but I've got several leather pieces and an agility 2-h in my ret set. Ony 25 I'm at about 5k dps when we finish phase 1. In 5 mans on your basic 3 mob pull Im anywhere from 3.5k to 6k depending on if I use AW and trinkets. As long as you get your priorities straight, don't worry about a rotation, and get that expertise up a bit you shouldn't have a problem in single target dps. You have been using SoV on single target fights correct? SoV has massive judgement damage, and with raid buffs your looking at about 40% crit I'd assume + 18% from your talents. Make sure your using that judgement as soon as it comes off CD. I'm pretty sure the priority system has CS before Judgement, but I know I have Judgement as my #1.
Post by
Quest
My gearscore is around 4500
here is where I stopped reading.
Post by
Squishalot
My gearscore is around 4500
here is where I stopped reading.
It's under nine thousand. No big deal.
Post by
Crackalackin
Wow, never realized what an ass Quest is. Like holy &*!@ my gearscore isn't amazing in my offspec set. So I must be a palanoob right?
Post by
PessimiStick
Wow, never realized what an ass Quest is. Like holy &*!@ my gearscore isn't amazing in my offspec set. So I must be a palanoob right?
I'm guessing he was mocking you more for using Gearscore, rather than the number itself.
Post by
147614
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Post by
Quest
Wow, never realized what an ass Quest is. Like holy &*!@ my gearscore isn't amazing in my offspec set. So I must be a palanoob right?
I am highly amused,and almost insulted
Post by
Quest
Wow, never realized what an ass Quest is. Like holy &*!@ my gearscore isn't amazing in my offspec set. So I must be a palanoob right?
Gearscore means little to nothing. I don't care if you have a 4500 Gearscore if you can't move out of the fire.
This post pretty much goes to the core of why 'gearscore' is a joke.
Post by
Crackalackin
I posted mine to compare to the OP. He gave his as 4700ish, so I stated mine was around 4500 so he knows he should be at or above my numbers a little. To mock me for giving the OP a comparison of our gear so he could get an idea of the numbers he can reach is idiotic. I made the wrong assumption it appears, yet it was still a stupid post by Quest.
Post by
valundar
Where are you pulling this 4500 gearscore from?
wow-heroes puts me at 2471
wowhead has me at 2733.
where do you get this #?
Not that the # means anything...
I could mix-n-match to get a better score... but... why? (barring FL uld runs hehehe)
Post by
Crackalackin
The in game addon called gearscore.
There are 4+ different gearscores that I can think of, Wowheroes, Wowhead, Gearscore addon, BeImba.
Post by
147614
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Post by
valundar
The in game addon called gearscore.
There are 4+ different gearscores that I can think of, Wowheroes, Wowhead, Gearscore addon, BeImba.
All of these sites are fantastic for reasons other than what they're used for. Wow-Heroes, Be.Imba.Hu, and WoWHead's profiler are all great tools for figuring out gem and enchant itemization choices, and upgrades for a particular slot. They are not meant to be used as a tool to show off epeen's and gauge each others skill.
I cannot comment on the addon because I've never used it before.
Aye, and that is how i use those.
What had me goin ? was that gearscore thing.
Of those i think be.imba is the best for their recommendations on gear... while wow-heroes is best for instance recommendations.
Obviously wowhead >>> than all others.
Profiler
is made of pure win.
Post by
RamRod10
Fist things first, you are doing less dps in raids becuase:
1) you aren't hit capped, which is a MAJOR difference in a level 81 heroic mob vs a lv 83 raid boss. Hit is going to be your first priority.
2) for raids you should have glyph of seal of vengance equipped which is an automatic 10 expertise, which is roughly 2-3% right there. ( expertise is important, but if you are behind the boss like you should be it won't matter near as much as the hit cap will)
3) Make sure you look at the damage done for the fight and not just the dps. On raid bosses a person that pulls 9K dps for 3 seconds is still pretty worthless, and the way ret paladins play now we aren't going to top the dps charts but we can still be contenders on the total damage meters. Remember, paladins are usually brought to raids to tank or heal, as a ret pally you are probably there because its a pug or your guild needs to fill a spot. We are a hybrid class that brings raid buffs and helps with mana a bit, not to top the dps charts.
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