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Resto Best in Slot Gear?
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260787
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karlusdavius
Just a hint, you can use the wowhead profiler to create your BiS character. Check my sig for mine. But in terms of BiS, those stats are very weak. Mock it up and link it with gems and all to give us a better picture.
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260787
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karlusdavius
but gems and enchants are part of BiS sets. All the items you have, have lower equivalents, so why not just pop that into the post before the link, posting what items need to be updated in the future?
BiS is not just gear. So go have fun and profile up something?
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260787
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karlusdavius
i understand BiS. However, just going for gear alone doesn't constitute BiS. You have to actively think about the gem you will use. Can you reach the haste cap just with gear alone? If so, what can you swap out to get maximum returns on gem sockets which, possibly, aren't BiS, yet you take them for the sheer fact that you can get more throughput out of them with SP gems?
You just don't know. However, if you don't want to profile it up for some in depth discussion on it all, then don't. But you will get limited feedback on it all. Which is what you want here, right?
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260787
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karlusdavius
Glad we got that over with.
ok, so how about we drop the attitude and start again?
First, your meta slot is not BiS if you say that,
when you're in high end gear, regen should not be an issue.
Why not choose the Ember Skyfire Diamond which scales with your gear and offers more spellpower and passive crit in return? Your regen comes mainly from trinkets.
Surely it would make sense to attain the haste cap (with haste enchant on clock) by gear alone? This leaves you with much more gem space to play with in terms of stacking nothing but RCR even in gear that gives a socket bonus of 5 SP and/or crit rating?
so as you can see, is your gear choice REALLY that best in slot? or are you simply stating it to be fact and don' want any comments or criticisms at all? because i really can't tell which you want...
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260787
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Post by
hashmel
here
is what i whipped up in a few minutes, can't add a belt buckle on here apparently
matched all socket colors but aside from metas there's no need to match everything
helps to link from wowhead especially on wowhead so readers can simply mouse over to see the items
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karlusdavius
From my BiS, im looking at UB mana values of 24k. Im pretty sure ESD boosts that a lot more, then again i like passive crit and have no trouble with mana even in hard modes.
Not being able to add a belt socket is annoying yes i agree. However, try not to socket your blue gem slots just to gain 5 - 6 sp. go with RCR as the gains are more than obtaining a socket bonus with a lackluster gem.
A druids tier set bonus, is er, #$%^ing insane. Rejuv critically hitting? Priests healing set bonuses are wank. When i go to work tomorrow i will have a look and see what kind of BiS for druids i can make.
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Cenan
From my BiS, im looking at UB mana values of 24k. Im pretty sure ESD boosts that a lot more, then again i like passive crit and have no trouble with mana even in hard modes.
ESD will add 427 mana to your unbuffed mana. This is a gain of about 4 mp5 from replenishment. If you add in kings/arcane intellect, ESD is worth 477 mana, and roughly 4.8 mp5 through replenishment.
Edit: forgot to add MOTW to the raid buffed bonuses list. 494 mana and 4.9 mp5 from replenishment roughly.
This is using the 1373 intellect on your priest profile that I assume you were referring to when quoting 24k mana. And, actually, that profile already has ESD, meaning the values would be less than what I just said even.
And in case someone missed my point, this means that the intellect from ESD is very underwhelming and that IED beats it any time that mana is ever an issue, with ease.
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260787
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Post by
karlusdavius
From my BiS, im looking at UB mana values of 24k. Im pretty sure ESD boosts that a lot more, then again i like passive crit and have no trouble with mana even in hard modes.
A mana pool of 24k unbuffed? My Druid is in BiS gear from Ulduar (minus weapons) and some items from TotC and I only have a 19k mana pool unbuffed. Buffed, it's about 24k, but I think unbuffed is over-exaggerating. As for the hard modes, on Assembly of Iron, XT-002, Mimiron's P2 and P4, and Freya, that's where the mana problems start to kick in. The fights where you
never
stop casting and these are the fights where the ISD can reach 140 MP5.
Here
. See. i've dont most of those hard modes and i don't know weather its me or not, but i find that i can easily maintain my mana but managing my CD's and having regen trinkets. I don't see where these mana problems are coming from.
Edit:Off hand was foctored in on mana pool even tho it was removed.
Not being able to add a belt socket is annoying yes i agree. However, try not to socket your blue gem slots just to gain 5 - 6 sp. go with RCR as the gains are more than obtaining a socket bonus with a lackluster gem.
Not being able to put in the gems you
want
is also annoying. Profiler makes you go for socket bonuses, so it's not like he had a choice when gemming his gear (which is why he said at the end "matched all socket colors but aside from metas there's no need to match everything"). It's one of the many reaosns why I'm not going to bother using it. First, the items aren't in the database that I'm looking for, the belt won't let me put an Eternal Belt Buckle in it and then on top of that, it won't let me ignore socket bonuses when it's better to gem pure SP instead of a purple or orange gem.
Check the link aobve, you can socket whatever gem you link in whatever slot you like. Again, where did this opinions come from that you can't?
A druids tier set bonus, is er, #$%^ing insane. Rejuv critically hitting? Priests healing set bonuses are wank. When i go to work tomorrow i will have a look and see what kind of BiS for druids i can make.
Hm, I found that the 4pc T8 set bonus is actually better than the 4pc T9. It's also a waste to buy the iLevel 232 if you have T8.5 because the only time that the T9 will surpass the T8 in healing is with the T9.25 (iLevel 245) set.
Agree.
My BiS character has in total (without some top ilvl gear)
3142 Spell Power
1314 Intellect (23,293 mana pool) Edit: Seemed my offhand was factored in even tho i removed it
931 Spirit
27.15% Holy Critical Strike Rating
20.16% Haste Rating
614 Mp5 OOC
That's Unbuffed.
Edit: Even with the off hand taken off now, having a 23k mana pool is still exceptional. Spirit got nerfed to the ground. Intellect is now our regen stat.
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260787
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Post by
karlusdavius
Ok, in the profiler when you select gem choices, top right of that box has, all and socket. click all and all the gems should pop up for you to choose from.
In terms of mana regen, you have yoru own innervate, which im sure has a reduced CD if used on yourself? That being said, mana back of lifebloom falling off and two regen trinkets, im still unsure on where these mana problems are coming from, then again we try and sync the two druids to focus their healing.
Post by
hashmel
when you go to add a gem there's a little button in the top that shows "all" gems, i just used matching colors for the sake of being quick and lazy and to show that if you must match colors those are ur best gems to use, if you have no need/interest in matching then by all means load up on the runed gems
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260787
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Post by
karlusdavius
Ok, i will also mock up a BiS list.
im right in thinking that with 5/5 Gift and 3/3 Celestial Focus, you need 295 haste rating? If you can link a generic resto spec, i'll see what i can come up with.
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