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Post by
buzz3070
so who else can provide a 3% crit debuff to mobs?
Post by
Tenshigure
Hi im probably going to get flamed for this.
Now why would you say that...
But im just curious to see if anyone is going to reroll now that elemental is pretty much the worst dps in the game.
Official WoW forums are that way. I'd love to see your evidence that Elemental Shaman DPS is the "Worst DPS in the Game". Last I checked, our Elemental DPS is cranking out the hits just as hard as everyone else, albeit maybe 100-200DPS lower than the straight-DPS classes. The little addition of Totems & Buffs (Bloodlust/Heroism) makes them that much more desired.
But hey, we're all entitled to our opinion...it's just that yours lacks any kind of common sense.
Also considering that anything that an elemental shaman can bring to a raid another class can provide the same if not better.
Oh really? So...show me where this Totem of Wrath & Bloodlust/Heroism replacement is, not to mention the automated Poison & Fear Ward elimination. Word of advice: if you think you're going to get flamed for starting an obvious controversial topic with no footing to stand on, better to keep your own opinion to yourself.
Post by
MegaVolt
Oh really? So...show me where this Totem of Wrath & Bloodlust/Heroism replacement is, not to mention the automated Poison & Fear Ward elimination. Word of advice: if you think you're going to get flamed for starting an obvious controversial topic with no footing to stand on, better to keep your own opinion to yourself.
Geared Warlocks provide a much better spellpower buff then ToW. Bloodlust can be provided by any Shaman, there is no need to go elemental for that. Same goes for Cleansing Totem and Tremor Totem.
Assuming that a geared Warlock is present and that some other Shaman is in the raid I also don't see much reason to bring an elemental Shaman.
But then again there is little reason to bring any class/spec since almost all buffs are redundant. Elemental dps is still quite good and a geared Shaman will do more then enough to justify the raid spot by its damage alone, even without having irreplacable buffs for the raid.
so who else can provide a 3% crit debuff to mobs?
Paladins and Rogues.
Post by
Haxzor
dont locks have to go Demo to get that talent though?
Post by
MegaVolt
dont locks have to go Demo to get that talent though?
They do. But it is very much worth it.
The lock will lose about 500 personal dps due to demo being inferior to affl or destro. The Shaman on the other hand will gain about the same (well, probably a little less) in personal dps since he now can use dps fire totems.
The point is that a raid buffed Warlock in ToC gear already has ~4k spellpower, making it a 400 SP buff compared to the 280 from ToW. That's a
major
difference and it will only grow bigger in ICC gear.
Post by
windstrum
Stop feeding the troll.
Post by
341987
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Post by
2Fang
Re-roll? Nah.
Re-spec? Probably. We are hybrids for some damn f**king reason.
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207044
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Post by
faia
what the reason most of them can do that damage?
toteems and of course....finnisher of heroism/bloodlust.....they lose abit if you not there;)
Post by
MegaVolt
Elemental is far from the worst. You just suck at it. We have an elemental shaman in our guild that tops every DPS chart we have. Hell he has even stayed on top after he has been on the floor for 2 minutes. (went a little overboard on the aggro in IC)
Then your guilds DPS just plain suck. Elemental dps is good, it is competetive - but it is in no way in a position to top the charts every fight.
That has nothing to do with feeding the troll or anything like it. It's simply the truth.
Post by
Tenshigure
Geared Warlocks provide a much better spellpower buff then ToW. Bloodlust can be provided by any Shaman, there is no need to go elemental for that. Same goes for Cleansing Totem and Tremor Totem.
Assuming that a geared Warlock is present and that some other Shaman is in the raid I also don't see much reason to bring an elemental Shaman.
Point taken, but this guy is talking about flat-out rerolling altogether.
Plus, I don't know about you, but with the crazy amount of cleaves/explosion mobs going on in the Lower Spire of ICC thus far, I'd rather invest in my Ranged DPS spec than a Melee DPS that can't take a big shot to the face, something that Enhance Shamans are really struggling to do STILL (*grumble*).
Then again, I do play Resto most of the time during our raids since nobody else seems to enjoy it as much as I do. :D
Post by
MegaVolt
Well there is a general advantage to being a ranged dps.
And enhancement Shamans don't really do much more damage then elemental Shamans, at least if the elemental Shamans can use their fire totem for dps (which enhancement Shamans usually do, too).
A raid only needs exactly one enhancement Shaman for the str/agil buff, any beyond that will - just like an elemental Shaman or generally any class/spec - not really at anything essential to the raid. The thing is there usually are 18 dps slots to fill, not nearly every one of those has to be filled with classes packed with raid buffs. So while an elemental Shaman is not strictly necessary and more then one enhancement Shaman is also not really necessary there still is no harm. Both bring good dps if played properly.
The biggest advantage for Shamans I see right now are bloodbeasts. Grounding totems as well as knockback (if elemental) both are very useful. Not necessary at all but still, the more the better ;)
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