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OscarDivine
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Fire
Improved Scorch now increases spell critical strike chance against the target by 5% but no longer stacks. (Up from 1%, Stacks up to 5)
Ice
Frozen Core now also causes your Ice Lance criticals to reduce the cast time of your next Frostbolt or Frostfire Bolt by 0.4/0.7/1 sec.
Glyphs
Glyph of Improved Scorch is now named Glyph of Scorch and Increases the damage of your Scorch spell by 20%.
Glyph of Eternal Water - Your Summon Water Elemental now lasts indefinitely, but your Water Elemental can no longer cast Freeze.
Improved Scorch: The debuff from this talent no longer stacks, and instead can apply the full effect from a single cast of Scorch.
Shame Frost probably still isn't PVE viable, but now we don't need to stack scorches anymore that's nice!
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Post by
DerrHans
Scorches are nice, Frost pet is nice for people still doing verzax.
How much does the pet do dps wise.?
It seems like a nice buff for pve frost mage's but viable ? i guess not, might be if they keep improving in this ptr.
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Post by
Crawshayi
That scorch change is too little to late imo. Don't get me wrong, it's great and will be awesome for the few that remained fire...it won't change the fact that Arcane is top dps and will continue to be with their buff coming in the patch as well.
Post by
StrangerWifCandy
Holy crap, Frozen Core? I can throw a 0.9 second frostbolt after every crit icelance?
Dear god, that scares the crap out of me.
Let's think about this. In one IL, with any amount of respectable haste rating, you can do IL>FB, IL>FB, and then maybe squeeze in one more IL.
If they all crit, we're talking 16k of possible damage. Even if only half crit, we've got a reliable 12k of burst we can use that's seriously difficult to interrupt.
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Post by
nickseng
I don't know about you, but doesn't Frozen Core kinda make Frost PVP all that more powerful?
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Post by
StrangerWifCandy
I don't know about you, but doesn't Frozen Core kinda make Frost PVP all that more powerful?
It's still situational to a degree. Now, if it were instant-cast I would agree with you.
I say yes. Have you ever tried to interrupt casts <1 second? If you're not prepared for it, server latency makes it almost impossible to stop.
I'm still boggling my brains for different ways to use FoF, Deep Freezes, and Novas to take advantage of this.
Post by
Achloryn
i think my face is possibly stuck in permanent joy..
lets hope blizz doesn't fubar this royally like they did the permafrost MS effect.
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Thomasmo
I don't really see the water elemental glyph being useful in PVP, other then constant damage, i rely on frost novas alot.
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StrangerWifCandy
I don't really see the water elemental glyph being useful in PVP, other then constant damage, i rely on frost novas alot.
In fact, it's bordering on worthless. The WE would need to be able to stay up for at least one minute constantly spamming waterbolts to make up for the damage lost from 3 on-demand shatter bombs.
This is pretty tough to pull off when any 2H melee can utterly demolish your elemental in 2-3 GCDs.
But will any amount of waterbolts ever be able to compensate for on-demand Deep Freezes to stop a druid from healing? Or being able to pop a rogue out of vanish? Keeping a DK and Warrior off your healer's back while Frost Nova is on CD?
I'm thinking I'm going to pass on the glyph, having a permanent pet would be nice, but when push comes to shove, freeze is our only method of reliable burst. =(
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Post by
StrangerWifCandy
The thing is they Bliz didn't want this glyph to be a pvp glyph AT ALL it was ment purely for PvE. Cause Boss's can't be frozen (with the exception of FoF) there is absolutly no point to the freeze effect of the water elemental.
(this is for everyone complaining about a "useless" glyph)
NOT FOR PVP
We're not arguing or complaining otherwise. We're just making it plain that the glyph is absolutely trash for PvP, and that people shouldn't consider it a pvp buff at all.
Frozen Core on the other hand....I don't know what to say about that yet really. I'll have to give it a spin on the PTR soon.
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