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pak52b
meh... i know it would be cooler to have +str enchants (heck, in tbc we took them cuz of kings.. ), but there are none... just something we have to live with
and, even though i like doing major dps and topping the charts, i have no real prob with the nerf.. now i actually have to pay attention to be competitive instead of just being "good" cuz im fury's OP'dness. ive been fury since level 50ish with over 120 days /played on it, and i still do my fair share of damage.
only thing id 'complain' about is weapons mastery being moved.. but hey... i guess i just have to eat +expertise food ^^
Edit:
if you even debate against me there's something wrong with you (if your warrior is the main).
lol, i just saw that.. and well ehm.. i guess something's wrong with me ^^
Post by
Rubendesmet619
meh... i know it would be cooler to have +str enchants (heck, in tbc we took them cuz of kings.. ), but there are none... just something we have to live with
and, even though i like doing major dps and topping the charts, i have no real prob with the nerf.. now i actually have to pay attention to be competitive instead of just being "good" cuz im fury's OP'dness. ive been fury since level 50ish with over 120 days /played on it, and i still do my fair share of damage.
only thing id 'complain' about is weapons mastery being moved.. but hey... i guess i just have to eat +expertise food ^^
Edit:
if you even debate against me there's something wrong with you (if your warrior is the main).
lol, i just saw that.. and well ehm.. i guess something's wrong with me ^^
No offence but being about 1 or 2k behind rogues in DPS is not what I call fun.(rogues are pushing 7k-8k pretty often)
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pak52b
yeah, but facerolling through a raid and being able to slack while doing it (/w or whatever in a boss fight) and still being number one without trying isnt fun either. it also doesnt help my pride knowing i didnt have to try to get to the top...
i know its a nerf, and nerfs suck, but it was justified.. and fury is getting slightly buffed soon.
yeah, rogues do too much dps imo, but that might be another story.. theyll get nerfed soon enough.
Post by
FritzTheCat
a wall of text, i know. but anyone out there feelin' me? dont start a flame fest here, this is a warrior's sanctuary and i'm on this side, if you even debate against me there's something wrong with you (if your warrior is the main).
I'm against you, and there's nothing wrong with me, despite my warrior being my main.
You're just QQing, and your post is almost unreadable. Here's the constructive bottom line though...
...they're Rogues. Don't worry FoK will get nerfed back into the ground any day now. Warriors have a few tweaks coming, and Rogues have a few tweaks coming - and if you read blue posts from WoW forums (usually posted on mmo-champion) you'll see that they intend to up warrior dps more and can already see they overtweaked Rogues.
It's not a matter of Warriors being underpowered, Rogues are just overpowered at the moment. A guildmate of mine dinged 80 just yesterday and is already pulling nearly 5k dps in Naxx10 boss fights. Little signs like that show us we'll either be caught up or Rogues will be pushed down pretty soon.
"You feelin' me?"
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Sakkura
Forget about rogues....on the average we're getting whipped by DK's of all specs and Kitty druids as well....who just happen to be hybrids just like us. Matter of fact, warriors are coming butt-naked LAST in average Ulduar boss parses. Sorry but going from top 3 to bottom 3 in one patch is NOT a reasonable nerf.
That is a gross exaggeration. I was DPSing last night on a couple bosses, though I usually MT and thus have somewhat worse DPS gear than most of the other DPSers. I still ended up around the middle of the pack. Warriors are not doomed to be dead last on DPS, we can compete at least with many of the other DPS specs, even if some are a bit ahead of us at the moment.
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Rubendesmet619
omg on the responces is al I have to say.
Yes, me and 2 other DPS warriors are al 3 in the top 4 in my guild.
yipee...
4k-4.5k DPS...
Now this is simple my guildies being undergeared.
I love those DPS warriors stil doing Nax10/25 saying "WERE FINE, I TOPPED THE METERS WITH 3K DPS and im only in Nax10/Nax25gear.../facepalm.
On the high end raiding rogues and ferals are pushing 7-8k DPS on some bosses, warriors can be happy when they pul 6k and I won't start on fury ones.
In TBC I had a CHANGE in EVERY fight to beat at least one of the rogues(17/44), the change to beat an equal geared rogue/feral who knows how to play is exacly 0. NO CHANGE and thats $%^&ing me of hugely.
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pak52b
Yes, me and 2 other DPS warriors are al 3 in the top 4 in my guild.
yipee...
4k-4.5k DPS...
ok.. post your armory..
ofc it was a nerf.. and ofc nerfs are felt.. seeing wws doesnt give me confidence in the future, but still.. atm, i seem to do viable dps (also 4-5k on a bossfight in naxx 25 gear).. ofc rogues outdps me, but hey.. thats the buff and nerf balancing that weve always seen.
just wait for it to get buffed and stop QQing
Post by
Anarchy
Warriors need to be redesigned, you can't just keep throwing band-aid talents at the class in the hope things will go away.
Prot -
DPS and threat is too low, while tank DPS isn't extremely important, warriors do the least DPS while tanking; maybe remove the defensive stance debuff completely and increase the rage heroic strike uses, also increase heroic strike damage, this should also bring their threat up.
Fury -
Well what can I say, terrible in pvp, and mediocre DPS even with great gear.
I've been hardcore fury warrior for over a year, TBC was fun, but the tree is poorly designed and titan's grip is the only thing that keeps the tree alive, 1h fury is terrible at everything.
Maybe buff DW specialization to 10/20/30/40/50% and increase precision to 2/4/6%
Change rampage to an "aura" when entering berserker stance.
Wielding two 2h's rage generation is very spikey and the slow speed of the weapons substainally devalues heroic strike.
"A strong attack that increases melee damage by 495 and causes a high amount of threat. Causes 173.25 additional damage against Dazed targets."
Blizz have been doing away with flat numbers recently, changing abilities to scale with spell power/attack power, the same should be done for heroic strike.
With a 2h, you lose all the rage you would have gotten for your next swing, but adding a measly 500 damage.
Changing it to something like "A strong attack that increases melee damage by 50%" dealing 150% weapon damage, seems like a decent idea.
Bloodsurge is a nice idea, but chain procs happen too frequently, perhaps giving you a buff that will allow you to stack 3 instant slams, and taking slam off the GCD so you don't mess up your rotation.
Arms -
Great, nice mobility, decent damage, awesome with a healer for pvp.
My only complaint is that mortal strike damage is very low even with glyph and talents.
Overall, warriors are a fun class, but are very easily kited and snared, have no active defenses and negligable self healing, this makes us very reliant on healers, even more so now than ever.
We should be able to use any ability in any stance, and lose less rage when changing stance.
OP? I don't think so, death knights can use any ability in any "stance".
Shield wall should not require a shield, nor spell reflect, this would help pvp a lot.
Bloodthirst should heal for more, and arms should get some self healing.
I would say warriors need a 15% movement speed boost, but I'm not sure since we do have charge/intercept.
Anyway these are just some ideas, I don't want to be OP, I just want a fair fight.
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Post by
pak52b
i understand it, and i feel it as well.. its undenyable that warriors could use some fixing...
still, no need to be so grumpy. ;-)
ofc, i would love berserking to proc with STR, would love to have +str enchants on gloves like in TBC... and i know that rogues will blow me away cuz theyre OP atm.
but, well, bliz does this all the time. heck, im glad we finally do get cloaks with +str instead of AP.. retri pallys: nerf, buff, nerf.. its that way with all classes..
i just wonder if they didnt see this stuff on PTR and think "hm.. that doesnt look right.. "
im also interested in seeing how ill perform with others in end-ulduar content - when everyone is geared.. we scale extremely well, and some ulduar weps, and ArP and whatnot may very well make us OP again
Post by
Rubendesmet619
Yes, me and 2 other DPS warriors are al 3 in the top 4 in my guild.
yipee...
4k-4.5k DPS...
ok.. post your armory..
ofc it was a nerf.. and ofc nerfs are felt.. seeing wws doesnt give me confidence in the future, but still.. atm, i seem to do viable dps (also 4-5k on a bossfight in naxx 25 gear).. ofc rogues outdps me, but hey.. thats the buff and nerf balancing that weve always seen.
just wait for it to get buffed and stop QQing
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Karazhan&n=Londron
Why should I be afraid of posting my armory?
Post by
Anarchy
Yes, me and 2 other DPS warriors are al 3 in the top 4 in my guild.
yipee...
4k-4.5k DPS...
ok.. post your armory..
ofc it was a nerf.. and ofc nerfs are felt.. seeing wws doesnt give me confidence in the future, but still.. atm, i seem to do viable dps (also 4-5k on a bossfight in naxx 25 gear).. ofc rogues outdps me, but hey.. thats the buff and nerf balancing that weve always seen.
just wait for it to get buffed and stop QQing
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Karazhan&n=Londron
Why should I be afraid of posting my armory?
Yeah you probably get 4500 dps with death wish and bloodlust up, I have a lot better gear and can just about manage to sustain 4.5k DPS on average.
Why do people exaggerate numbers so much?
Before the nerf I was about 5k-5.5k.
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