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Post by
KingKarnn
Well I have come to this conclusion and it that there are really only about 3 teams that faceroll everyone. 1. Being Rogue Priest for season six I have read on the
www.arenajunkies.com
that this team is expected to be all thru out the top ten. It's not enough that this team was Viable thru seasons 1-5 and Rogue/? was dominating season 4. 2. 3v3 teams such as FrostDeathknight/RetPally/RestoDruid not only do you have complete control of any team you have get out of jail moves with your druid no sheeps on any charecters lasting longer that 2 seconds dispels with cyclone root with icy chains with hungering cold along with a HoJ stuns the list goes on any team not weilding amazing wepons at this team is sure to be facerolled priest will never burn anyone because the ret pally and dk will be on the priest and pulling that dps off of there healer with slows stuns and DeathGrip stuns only team that even gave me a wee bit of trouble was a mirror..... 3. 5v5 team I have noticed has the most destructive power ever FrostDeathknight/restodruid/dispriest/destrolock/mutilatrogue again with this team you have the max amount of peeling the max amount of dispell this is an unfair advantage to most teams because if you could get them to use trinkets in the begining of the match it's auto win that is usually what hungering Cold is for it's made to make teams have to choose who lives and dies so... if anyone has any other opinions than I would be more than happy to debate it =) Happy Hunting in the land of nub cake!
Post by
Lightrain
Wow.... That's..... really confusing.
Press the "enter" button some times. It has a little arrow on it(usually). It might say "return" instead of "enter".
Priest/rogue is an OK team, but resto+ret/arms can handle it, or arms+holy pally. Hell, hunter or warlock comped with a healer can handle it a lot of the time. And lets not forget about frost mages.
Priest rogue will be in the top 10 on SK-gaming world wide, sure. Will it be the majority of the top 10 when it comes to each battle group? No. It will be there, but it won't be just dominating every battle group. Not like DK/holy pally last season.
Post by
KingKarnn
There was 1 shaman/warlock team in the top ten and as for arms warriors they more than a joke now easily kited and put to shame by most GOOD Rogues/dk/druid/hunters/paladins/mages/shaman/warlocks and as for a warlock on a rogue you might as well give up not only is the counter class a rogue but it is the worste thing in the world for a warlock to try and beat.
This is comming from a guy who played all but paladin seasons 1-4 all my teams atleast reached 1.8k-2050ish 2v2/3v3/5v5 I am also just taking things from the fourms I have been reading and putting together my own data and watching the new arena vids and what not and come to the conclusion that if there will be atleast 3 rogue/priest in top ten only to be beaten by Resto druid and Frost/blood dk but that might even be a long shot with constant dispels.
ret pallys are easily CCed by the rogue with blinds slows and fears adn if the Rogue is mutilate with decent weapons and with a a sub-par cc chain they can blow a healer from 20k-3k in one go around I have done it on a not so well geared Night-elf Rogue
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79146
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Post by
Lightrain
Bloodlust is the "Uber arena" Battlegroup right? Have you looked at what is top rated there, where it's majorly competitive?
I'll give you a hint, it's not priest rogue. 3 priest/rogue teams in the top 10 rated in the EU and US battle groups combined.
It's mostly DK's, warriors, resto druids, and disc priest, but not many rogues.
Post by
KingKarnn
Bloodlust is the "Uber arena" Battlegroup right? Have you looked at what is top rated there, where it's majorly competitive?
I'll give you a hint, it's not priest rogue. 3 priest/rogue teams in the top 10 rated in the EU and US battle groups combined.
It's mostly DK's, warriors, resto druids, and disc priest, but not many rogues.
Your right but the season has just began so you will see by the end of it
Edit: this is the number one team in the world right now
http://www.arenajunkies.com/team/2v2/US/Mal'Ganis/Bilsteele/
and number 7 and 8 are Priest rogue and they are all american soo I don't know man
Post by
KingKarnn
Why in the world do people think Priest/Rogue is total faceroll? They have counters, they aren't like Shadowfrost/Holy.
Their representation on SK-100 is mitigated by the fact that they have always been the most popular team to play for some reason. Probably because that's the best comp for either class.
For 3v3, go replace the Frost DK with a Warrior, since the Warrior brings MS.
For 5v5, the bracket doesn't have many real counters, and barely anyone plays it, so it's a moot point.
Priest/Rogue is kind of OP, but it is FAR from faceroll.
Edit: That reminds me of the time someone complained about Druid/Hunter being OP in S3 because they were #1 on some BG.
Priest/Rogue any way you want to say it is good hands down if I can take priest rogue s5 from 1500-1900 in northrend quest items a skilled priest/rogue in good gear should be stomping this season.
Warrior's have become a thing of the past DK replaced them as a DK I get 5-6k crits on them they are SOOOO easily CCed no matter what trinket or not they could have 5 trinkets and it would not matter it's just icy chains incy touch with Frost Fever on them they are slowed so much they become useless any class needing to to get close can pretty much kiss there but good by and I have a warrior adn I know the frustration of being kited by good rogues and dk
Edit:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfV0qcZGMxzAMcofuVost
that spec will show what I mean
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Post by
Lightrain
Bloodlust is the "Uber arena" Battlegroup right? Have you looked at what is top rated there, where it's majorly competitive?
I'll give you a hint, it's not priest rogue. 3 priest/rogue teams in the top 10 rated in the EU and US battle groups combined.
It's mostly DK's, warriors, resto druids, and disc priest, but not many rogues.
Your right but the season has just began so you will see by the end of it
Edit: this is the number one team in the world right now
http://www.arenajunkies.com/team/2v2/US/Mal'Ganis/Bilsteele/
and number 7 and 8 are Priest rogue and they are all american soo I don't know man
Actually, the season's ladder is leveling out, it's getting more realistic by the day, and I've ran into many priest/rogue teams in the 1700-1800 bracket here, and they are far from unbeatable. The problem is, they are really annoying. That's all.
Also, priest/rogue is falling
off
of the top 10. They are not the end all "rape face" team this season. TBH, it's actually rather well balanced. There isn't one class that is the "uber FOTM pownage" class. Hell, even enh shams are really annoying with their spirit wolves.
Post by
Wanderingfox
Bloodlust is the "Uber arena" Battlegroup right? Have you looked at what is top rated there, where it's majorly competitive?
I'll give you a hint, it's not priest rogue. 3 priest/rogue teams in the top 10 rated in the EU and US battle groups combined.
It's mostly DK's, warriors, resto druids, and disc priest, but not many rogues.
Your right but the season has just began so you will see by the end of it
Edit: this is the number one team in the world right now
http://www.arenajunkies.com/team/2v2/US/Mal'Ganis/Bilsteele/
and number 7 and 8 are Priest rogue and they are all american soo I don't know man
Actually, the season's ladder is leveling out, it's getting more realistic by the day, and I've ran into many priest/rogue teams in the 1700-1800 bracket here, and they are far from unbeatable. The problem is, they are really annoying. That's all.
Also, priest/rogue is falling
off
of the top 10. They are not the end all "rape face" team this season. TBH, it's actually rather well balanced. There isn't one class that is the "uber FOTM pownage" class. Hell, even enh shams are really annoying with their spirit wolves.
Haven't come against many Frost DK / Prot Paladin (Healing) teams yet have you? :P
Post by
Lightrain
Not frost, but I have ran into unholy, blood, arms and even a prot warrior with a prot pally healer. I personally, hate prot pally healers. They are seriously retarded when it comes to stuns and mana regen for 1v1 fights.
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79146
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Post by
KingKarnn
I will call you on the season 2-3 warrior druid because I played Druid Rogue and the hardest comp in higher brackets where Mage/Rogue because of the burst is all but even then we would win if we pulled rogue out of stealth back to the warrior comment tho warrior's are 2 easily kited now a days to be really good 1v1 with most classes a warrior will lose 2v2 druid/warrior versus priest/rogue Warrior's damage is going to midigated soooo much it won't be funny due to constant snares and gouges not to mention that the second the rogue want's to he can kill the the warrior especially mutilation rogues due to fear/blind/gouge on a healer just that chain alone will keep the druid MIA for 10 seconds and that includes trinket.
Post by
KingKarnn
Priest/Rogue any way you want to say it is good hands down if I can take priest rogue s5 from 1500-1900 in northrend quest items a skilled priest/rogue in good gear should be stomping this season.
Warrior's have become a thing of the past DK replaced them as a DK I get 5-6k crits on them they are SOOOO easily CCed no matter what trinket or not they could have 5 trinkets and it would not matter it's just icy chains incy touch with Frost Fever on them they are slowed so much they become useless any class needing to to get close can pretty much kiss there but good by and I have a warrior adn I know the frustration of being kited by good rogues and dk
Edit:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfV0qcZGMxzAMcofuVost
that spec will show what I mean
L2Punctuate. Warriors are far from a thing of the past, Dks did NOT replace them. Dks cannot MS, they cannot remove Bubbles, and there is no reason to say, "Omg, Warriors have been sauteed in a creamy nerfsauce. I r go roll new class cuz mine is not teh roxxorz."
who needs MS when you cna silence for 5 seconds and din 5 seconds do 20k damage with just icy touch howling blast ugh can't remeber what move replenishes your runes. Icy touch deathchill frost strike hungering cold then then howling blast boom over 20k damage in one rotation. While a warrior has to stun stun stun to win hamstring so you don't get away but if you are slowing them 100% and they are only slowing you 75% you win every time. The fact they can be kited like no body else is funny to don't get me wrong I love warriors I play one of those as well.
Post by
Booterang
Haven't come against many Frost DK / Prot Paladin (Healing) teams yet have you? :P
I farm those teams with shaman/warlock. Seriously, the fact that a protadin can only heal via casts is a HORRIBLE weakness. Have the warlock throw a curse of tongues on it and laugh as it pops aura mastery... and then bubble right after. Protadins are just broken mechanics, warlocks, and mages are capable of interrupting so many of their casts they are incapable of healing their partner.
Holy protadins may be difficult to kill with comps that base their dps on melee physical damage, but casters counter it so hard its almost an auto-lose.
I am much more concerned with the progression of warrior/druid. Warriors hit really hard, and are frankly unkitable with their 17 second charges (NERF!...NERF!) and druids can heal for a short eternity while CCing the opponent. I find myself hard pressed to heal through the mortal strike debuff while the druid sits and HoTs the warrior, barely using any mana at all.
Don't get me wrong, deathknights are painful to face at times, but warriors are a much greater headache.
Post by
KingKarnn
I am so confused I have yet to face a hard druid warrior team as deathknightunholy/enhanceshaman or deathknightfrost/dis/holypriest someone please tell me what the big deal is I kite them the entire time and then slow slow slow slow slow and they maybe do 10k damage to me then I just blow blood tap and gain 6k life back then a a quick heal and I am at full and the warrior is still being messed with so please explain why they are hard anyone
Post by
Wanderingfox
I'd be more worried about the rise of Druid/Warrior than Priest/Rogue, imo. Especially with the downfall of double DPS last season. M/R was the only thing keeping D/W in check in S2-3, and it's weak now due to the stupidity of Ret Paladins and DK's.
Warrior/Rogue eats Druid/Warrior for breakfast. The druid can't heal the warrior enough to keep him up with both a rogue and a warrior on him (especially with the rogue exposing the warrior). Sooner or later the druid will be forced to nourish or regrowth, at which point he'll immediately be blinded and the warrior will die. Then it's just a druid vs a warrior and rogue, and well you get the idea.
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