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PvP destro... not fun, not effective....
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Burakkura
tbh if you thought conflag was why destro was so powerful you were playing it wrong.
The amount of control destro has is insane, between a silence, fears, deathcoil, and fury. Yes the burst IS nice, it hasn't changed.
If your playing MLS your still going to kill anything you want after you burn through the CDs with your CC.
If your playing RLS your still going to have your rogue completely dominated something while you throw in your 2cents while the healer is feared.
Also, destro is anything but a glass cannon. They are THE magic damage tank, you will not die to a caster unless your healer is completely useless. If you learn to use your teleport, trinket the right time and use your CC probably even TSG won't drop you.
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Ksero
Yes, i appreciate destro pvp spec was extremely "busrty", other classes might say overpowered. But you've got to consider the nature of destro locks, we're a glass cannon, we go down fairly easy too.
The changes to conflag make destro lock pvp useless, we're like an ineffective mage.
Anyone else share my opinion? Or there a way to look on the bright-side of this change?
i completely agree, i dont know what burakura is talking about, conflag is now a 3-4k crit instead of an 9-10-k crit, i realise there is a dot effect after but its not the same.
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Burakkura
I'm about talking about, that if you think conflag was the reason destro was so strong, you are wrong.
It was mearly a bonus and any comp you played previously where you would burst someone down during CC is still going to work the exact same way. Destro is still a warlocks more powerful PvP spec even though I, like many other locks, enjoy affliction much more. I will definetly try to play an affliction comp next season. But for now, keep playing destro like you always have because nothing in terms of gameplay or effectiveness has changed whatsoever.
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speeddemon02
I felt I was fairly good at pvp lvling up but once i hit 80 well after everyone else Ive either lvled off or fallen flat on my face in the mud. I followed the fad of being destruction and yes i was amazed at it's power, but when I played i always ran into the same issues with the plate wearing classes regardless of spec. i still have crap gear but have seen a big difference from what i had to the crap i have now nad can only imagine what it would be like if i had good gear. i would though have to agree with the glass cannon those two words sum it all upin a nutshell fomr what ive seen from this side and against the class.
with the new mage glyph I feel locks are being left in the dust and bliz knows it with their comments on a complete revamp to the class in the next game.
i miss the days when lock dots and drains plus effective fears was a formittable fight, now its just laughable.
fears have lost their edge and are almost useless now all it seems ot do now is eat a GCD for whomever your fighting if its effective so many classes now have fear reduction/immune and trink or racial cancelling
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Burakkura
I felt I was fairly good at pvp lvling up but once i hit 80 well after everyone else Ive either lvled off or fallen flat on my face in the mud. I followed the fad of being destruction and yes i was amazed at it's power, but when I played i always ran into the same issues with the plate wearing classes regardless of spec. i still have crap gear but have seen a big difference from what i had to the crap i have now nad can only imagine what it would be like if i had good gear. i would though have to agree with the glass cannon those two words sum it all upin a nutshell fomr what ive seen from this side and against the class.
with the new mage glyph I feel locks are being left in the dust and bliz knows it with their comments on a complete revamp to the class in the next game.
i miss the days when lock dots and drains plus effective fears was a formittable fight, now its just laughable.
fears have lost their edge and are almost useless now all it seems ot do now is eat a GCD for whomever your fighting if its effective so many classes now have fear reduction/immune and trink or racial cancelling
First your a glass cannon BECAUSE of the bad gear, a geared lock takes damage very well.
I hope you were kidding about the new mage glyph, find me one mage that actually uses it in PvP and I'll show a mage who has no idea wtf hes doing.
What do you mean effective fears? When I think about an "effective" fear, its a fear thats on a healer during a burst opporunity. Or a fear on a dps while your healer is having trouble. Or maybe on a target too pull him away from a piller to attempt a burst opportunity. What is so laughable about said situations?
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I felt I was fairly good at pvp lvling up but once i hit 80 well after everyone else Ive either lvled off or fallen flat on my face in the mud. I followed the fad of being destruction and yes i was amazed at it's power, but when I played i always ran into the same issues with the plate wearing classes regardless of spec. i still have crap gear but have seen a big difference from what i had to the crap i have now nad can only imagine what it would be like if i had good gear. i would though have to agree with the glass cannon those two words sum it all upin a nutshell fomr what ive seen from this side and against the class.
with the new mage glyph I feel locks are being left in the dust and bliz knows it with their comments on a complete revamp to the class in the next game.
i miss the days when lock dots and drains plus effective fears was a formittable fight, now its just laughable.
fears have lost their edge and are almost useless now all it seems ot do now is eat a GCD for whomever your fighting if its effective so many classes now have fear reduction/immune and trink or racial cancelling
First your a glass cannon BECAUSE of the bad gear, a geared lock takes damage very well.
I hope you were kidding about the new mage glyph, find me one mage that actually uses it in PvP and I'll show a mage who has no idea wtf hes doing.
What do you mean effective fears? When I think about an "effective" fear, its a fear thats on a healer during a burst opporunity. Or a fear on a dps while your healer is having trouble. Or maybe on a target too pull him away from a piller to attempt a burst opportunity. What is so laughable about said situations?
I totally agree with speed. And what do you mean with fear that's on a healer or on a dps, etc. Try to LAND a fear nowadays. It's insane how many times it either gets dispelled or immuned etc. Try to fear a Warrior coming at you with blade storm,..../wave!
Go up against a Rogue with Will of forsaken, Horde trinket and Cloak,....fear = useless.
Yes, we have burst power, but you better hurry with it.
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Try demo, it's not too hard 1v1 or even against a few people.. Just dot em up, pop meta, charge at them, immolate aura, dead. Felguard hits for 1k ish aswell so he's like an extra dot :) I only specced for demo pvp about half an hour ago, I have done 2 BGs and seem to end up mid table. I had a Soul fire crit for 14.8 k :)
EDIT: curse of choice- elements.
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