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Prot Rotation - Am I OK?
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Post by
lankybrit
Hi,
I just got to lvl 80. I have a Prot Orc Warrior and use pretty much the following. Can you tell me if I'm doing OK, or should I change.
I usually 'Charge' and 'Rend', then switch to Def Stance.
Then, if Shield Block is available (not in cooldown) I use it.
Then Revenge/Heroic Strike (I have Glyph of Revenge). Use Revenge whenever it lights up.
Follow with Shield Slam and Devastate when needed. Also Shockwave.
I use Shield Bash when they're about to cast a spell.
I use Shield Wall before going into a really hard battle.
That's pretty much it. Am I doing OK? Anything else I'm missing out on?
I'm doing all PVE with the odd Dungeon/Raid.
If you want to see me, check out 'LankyBrit' in the Armory.
Cheers.
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Post by
lankybrit
Yikes - Forgot to mention Thunder Clap, which I use a fair bit :)
Cheers.
Post by
nephthyswanderer
I like to start with a heavier threat generator than rend, try an immediate shield slam and then a shockwave to stop them from running off for any quick blasts. Follow up with Cleave and Thunderclap, your best sources of AoE threat.
Fo multiple mobs, I'll Heroic Throw my second target and then charge the primary.
Keep up the Devastate both for threat and Shield Slam procs.
Cycle in Concussive Blow to help with heavy hitters or just to interrupt as well.
Don't forget your Last Stand + Enraged Generation for those fights where it starts getting ugly, it can really help your healer.
And I'm going to be a giant jerk here and not recommend you tank anything with your gear. Unless that's your DPS/Questing set up in Armory.
Post by
lankybrit
No, you're not being jerk commenting on my Gear. As I said, I've only just hit 80 and that was without touching Icecrown and Storm Peaks - yet. I know that my primary focus now need to be on upgrading my gear. I'm sure there are some better drops in IC and SP and various Dungeons I've been ignoring.
I've dropped Cleave from my rotation lately, but I probably should bring it back. I didn't think that Last Stand looked that good, but maybe I'm wrong and I should try it out.
Thanks to both of you. Just the sort of advice I was looking for.
Cheers.
Post by
nephthyswanderer
Check out the Tempered Saronite gear it's easy to craft with a couple of stack of Saronite. You could probably craft 4-5 pieces for less than 100g.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40671
Post by
marklartank
I've dropped Cleave from my rotation lately, but I probably should bring it back. I didn't think that Last Stand looked that good, but maybe I'm wrong and I should try it out.
cleave is good for multi-mob packs IF you have plenty of rage. rend is usually a waste of a GCD.
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Post by
lankybrit
Thanks Merlin,
I do have Glyph of Revenge. So I love Revenge->Heroic Strike.
It seems that I'm doing 'OK', and just need to change to stay in Def Stance all the time, and put back Cleave into my main bar.
All the suggestions have been great.
Cheers.
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Post by
Lorkin
Prot tanks do not have a rotation OMG you have a priority list.
This is true to some extent, but I do have a pull rotation. Generally it's Heroic Throw / shoot closest mob. Pull em back a bit and charge when they are in range. Thunderclap and Shockwave right away, followed with a Shield Slam to the main target (usually skull). Then spam Cleaves and your single target threat moves (Shield Slams, Revenge, Devastates).
Post by
marklartank
Prot tanks do not have a rotation OMG you have a priority list.
1.Thunderclap (even on bosses or Multi mob)
2.Shield Slam
3. Shockwave
4.Revenge
5. Devestate
6. Concussive blow
the first statement is true (priority system); however, the priority list given here is very wrong.
thunderclap on bosses ONLY when it's about to fall off and ONLY if you don't have an OT to put it up for you. same with demo shout.
revenge > shockwave
concussion blow = shockwave (for single target bosses)
Post by
edwordrules
Concussion Blow - Used as rage dump
Both Shockwave and Concussion Blow should replace the use of a Devestate
Shockwave/Concussion Blow, replace the use of a Devestate?
Ever hear of Sword and Board, and why would you use Concussion Blow as a rage dump?
I usualy do this..
1) Heroic throw
2)Charge
3)Shield Slam
4)Devestate
5)Thunderclap
Jump to the side or side step, and Shockwave.
It looks funny, but ive been doin that for so long, its like second nature to me, and just wait for Revenge to proc and HS for free (If you have the glyph)
Most of the time i spam SS/Devastate/Revenge(when procs)/HS, and Clap like im at a strip club.
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93026
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Post by
lankybrit
Check out the Tempered Saronite gear it's easy to craft with a couple of stack of Saronite. You could probably craft 4-5 pieces for less than 100g.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40671
OMG - Thank you Thank You Thank You.
I went to the AH and bought ever bit I could. Still missing the Belt, but got everything else. Only cost me a few hundred. Not bad because I have nearly 6000 anyway.
Now totally tricked out!
Cheers.
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Post by
lankybrit
Shockwave/Concussion Blow, replace the use of a Devestate?
Ever hear of Sword and Board, and why would you use Concussion Blow as a rage dump?
When Shield Slam is near cool down end (and Revenge still on CD) would a lighter hitting Devestate just for the chance to proc a Sword and Board to save a tenth of a sec really be best move?
Why use Concussion Blow? Since it does significantly far more damage then devestate and is a very high threat generator, why not?
agreed. Another reason to use it is it stuns. And pretty sure neither Shield Slam or Dev do that.
Shield Bash does though, and that's what I use. Any reason I should use Concussion Blow over Shield Bash?
Cheers.
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Post by
edwordrules
Shockwave/Concussion Blow, replace the use of a Devestate?
Ever hear of Sword and Board, and why would you use Concussion Blow as a rage dump?
When Shield Slam is near cool down end (and Revenge still on CD) would a lighter hitting Devestate just for the chance to proc a Sword and Board to save a tenth of a sec really be best move?
Why use Concussion Blow? Since it does significantly far more damage then devestate and is a very high threat generator, why not?
agreed. Another reason to use it is it stuns. And pretty sure neither Shield Slam or Dev do that.
It stuns trash, but with all the nuking power DPS classes have now, i have yet to use it. Actually, the last time i remember using it, when i'm not doing PvP, is in Slave Pens, Coilfang Defenders, since they are immune to taunt in Heroic O.o
Also, it won't interrupt spell casts, unless it actually stuns the target. So using it instead of Shield Bash, is just a waste of rage.
Post by
Shiverlynn
Concussive Blow and Shockwave deal lots of damage. They're a better choice than Devastate when everything else is on cooldown. The stun effecft is secondary, in a boss fight their primary purpose is to help you build threat, and they do so.
I know that Devastate can proc S&B, but I hate relying on RNG. If I had to decide between 4k threat from a Concussive Blow and maybe if all the stars are aligned 6k threat from a S&B proc, I'll take Conc. Blow.
Threat Priority Flowchart
(taken here:
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f14/41426-ideal-warrior-single-target-threat-rotation.html
)
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