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Proper weapon speed for tank
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Post by
Fuin
Hi I'm planning switch to tanking with my pala, but I have no idea which weapon speed will be the best (I mean fast or slower ). I know warriors use fast ones, but pallies? With faster I will be able to stack up seal faster, however I will deal less damage by HoTR, so which speed should I choose?
Post by
Quest
It doesnt matter. Slow will give more threat all else the same, fast will stack your dots faster.
Basically, get whatever has teh best tanking stats on it. Ignore speed.
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Post by
svirve
Unless you're expertise hard capped a slow one will have the advantage of less parry gibbing.
It's not like it's going to wipe your raid but there are differences if you exclude threat.
Post by
Fuin
Thanks for responses
Post by
Squishalot
It doesnt matter. Slow will give more threat all else the same, fast will stack your dots faster.
Basically, get whatever has teh best tanking stats on it. Ignore speed.
I'm surprised you didn't jump all over this: HotR actually doesn't use Top End damage, it only uses DPS. So, the higher DPS your weapon is, the more damage you will do with HotR; this is useful for Protribution
In a tanking situation though, there is no real advantage to using slow over fast, or vice versa. Just use whichever will provide you with the best tanking stats.
Slow will give you somewhat more threat as a result of SoV extra damage. But the difference is somewhat minimal in the grand scheme of things.
HotR, as identified, doesn't make much difference between slow or fast, it's based on weapon DPS. However, for a given ilvl, DPS is generally identical, so HotR will be indifferent.
I would note that all the tanking weapons (i.e. the ones with defense, avoidance and strength stats on them) are generally faster weapons. The slower ones typically stack stamina, agility and attack power, and are itemised for hunters. The weapon speed makes considerably less difference than the stats.
Post by
svirve
The slower ones typically stack stamina, agility and attack power, and are
itemised for hunters
. The weapon speed makes considerably less difference than the stats.
That's so typical "hawnter wipon!".
Wut abot rouges den?
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
The slower ones typically stack stamina, agility and attack power, and are
itemised for hunters
. The weapon speed makes considerably less difference than the stats.
That's so typical "hawnter wipon!".
Wut abot rouges den?
Rogues actually care more about speed than hunters and pallies, so they don't have much of a choice.
Post by
Squishalot
The slower ones typically stack stamina, agility and attack power, and are
itemised for hunters
. The weapon speed makes considerably less difference than the stats.
That's so typical "hawnter wipon!".
Wut abot rouges den?
Rogues actually care more about speed than hunters and pallies, so they don't have much of a choice.
Combat rogues with dual 2.5secs and
Killing Spree
. Yeah, I'll pay that.
Post by
svirve
Rogues actually care more about speed than hunters and pallies, so they don't have much of a choice.
Did you already forget im a rogue to the heart ;p
Low speed MHs are teh BOMB for any rogue spec.
Thus the reason im thinking of switching to combat since blizz introduced axes to our arsenal of mass destruction.
My point was that squishy mentioned that low speed weapons are itemised for hunters.
Hunters dont give a care bear about weapon speed, rogues do.
Combat rogues with dual 2.5secs and
Killing Spree
. Yeah, I'll pay that.
Too bad weapon swapping is still a DPS loss and we need a fast OH for
Combat Potency
.
Post by
Squishalot
Wait a sec, define 'high speed' and 'low speed'? Are you referring to '2.5sec' = high and 1.6sec = low? Or 1.6sec = high speed and 2.5sec = low? ;p
I define it as the latter :P
Post by
biogoo
Wait a sec, define 'high speed' and 'low speed'? Are you referring to '2.5sec' = high and 1.6sec = low? Or 1.6sec = high speed and 2.5sec = low? ;p
I define it as the latter :P
Lol question:D
If anyone takes that seriously:
speed = number of actions per set amount of time
Theres no need to investigate. Though a lot of ppl are confused, not realising that swing-time = 1/speed, thus reversing the "high" and "low".
Post by
Squishalot
Wait a sec, define 'high speed' and 'low speed'? Are you referring to '2.5sec' = high and 1.6sec = low? Or 1.6sec = high speed and 2.5sec = low? ;p
I define it as the latter :P
Lol question:D
If anyone takes that seriously:
speed = number of actions per set amount of time
Theres no need to investigate. Though a lot of ppl are confused, not realising that swing-time = 1/speed, thus reversing the "high" and "low".
Yeah, I know. My query was because svirve made the point:
My point was that squishy mentioned that
high speed
weapons are itemised for hunters.
when I clearly said:
The
slower ones
typically stack stamina, agility and attack power, and are itemised for hunters.
Hence why I think we're talking at cross-definitions here.
Post by
biogoo
All the intelligent discusion above was now called irrelevant unless someone edits all the posts and clearly states
what the hell is a slow weapon
mentioned there.
Post by
svirve
My bad i realised that i had posted high speed weapons first but i only thought i did it on the first line.
I'll edit it to make it clear that i mean low speed weapons.
Just like with a car. If your speed is high you travel faster. In wow if your speed is high you hit faster.
That's how i reason it.
Post by
valundar
My bad i realised that i had posted high speed weapons first but i only thought i did it on the first line.
I'll edit it to make it clear that i mean low speed weapons.
Just like with a car. If your speed is high you travel faster. In wow if your speed is high you hit faster.
That's how i reason it.
Glad you cleared that up.
You had me questioning everything I know about rogues....
Way to go svirve.... messin with me head
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