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Post by
Tenshigure
So...you directly insult an employee of Blizzard, and didn't expect any kind of retaliation because "everyone else is doing it?" What are you, 12?
As for the rest of you who are wishing bodily harm on employees of a company who created a game that you still enjoy enough to post on a forum about it, get over yourselves and get some new priorities, seriously. EVERY CLASS in the game has at one point or another been at the bottom of the barrel, and it just so happens some Shamans are feeling this is their time. Yes, you should voice your concerns, but not in a way that not in the way you guys have been doing it.
Seriously, you think insulting them will make them think "well gee, I guess they have a point! Let's buff their class!"? They already do that with the whiners on any of the Holiday meta-achievements, we don't need for it to be for every other single thing out there. They're getting to it, just like every other "broken issue" in the game.
I'm not saying that we don't have a valid point (especially on Survivability), and that there isn't plenty of things to be working on, but that's not to say they AREN'T. You think they're just sitting there laughing at you because you have to wallow in your pain and suffering? (Okay maybe they are, but I'd do the same to watch ya squirm, hehe j/k). To just say "I'm broke, fix me!" without any kind of refutable evidence other than "I died faster than I think I should" is pointless, and that's exactly what I read from GC's response there.
I guess the moral of the story is: Stay away from the WoW forums as much as you can, they make you stupid and immature. Oh, and in case you forgot, Blue posters on that site do have the authority to shut you down for any little thing, it's in the ToS. If you don't like the game anymore, then get the hell out of here and never come back.
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336283
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Post by
TheMediator
So...you directly insult an employee of Blizzard, and didn't expect any kind of retaliation because "everyone else is doing it?" What are you, 12?
As for the rest of you who are wishing bodily harm on employees of a company who created a game that you still enjoy enough to post on a forum about it, get over yourselves and get some new priorities, seriously. EVERY CLASS in the game has at one point or another been at the bottom of the barrel, and it just so happens some Shamans are feeling this is their time. Yes, you should voice your concerns, but not in a way that not in the way you guys have been doing it.
Seriously, you think insulting them will make them think "well gee, I guess they have a point! Let's buff their class!"? They already do that with the whiners on any of the Holiday meta-achievements, we don't need for it to be for every other single thing out there. They're getting to it, just like every other "broken issue" in the game.
I'm not saying that we don't have a valid point (especially on Survivability), and that there isn't plenty of things to be working on, but that's not to say they AREN'T. You think they're just sitting there laughing at you because you have to wallow in your pain and suffering? (Okay maybe they are, but I'd do the same to watch ya squirm, hehe j/k). To just say "I'm broke, fix me!" without any kind of refutable evidence other than "I died faster than I think I should" is pointless, and that's exactly what I read from GC's response there.
I guess the moral of the story is: Stay away from the WoW forums as much as you can, they make you stupid and immature. Oh, and in case you forgot, Blue posters on that site do have the authority to shut you down for any little thing, it's in the ToS. If you don't like the game anymore, then get the hell out of here and never come back.
Your whole post is dumb to the max. You don't even have to play or like wow to roam these forums... I haven't touched WoW in 6 months, so you fail on that point.
Secondly, I don't know a single class that wasn't ever better than shaman in some way, so no, its not just "their time", they are generally accepted by the majority of people to be the "red head", with only moment here and there where they shined through in some aspect, but failing in other aspects, with rest of the time sitting at the bottom of the barrel.
A quick edit in : Blizzard should expect to be ^&*!@ed at because they're not going a great job at all, they're just doing better than the rest of the MMO failures out there. Better than terrible =/= Good.
Post by
Eleazer
wow, this is a complaint hilarious forum. I love my shaman is he broke absolutely. In fact, i subbed him out for a frost dk because of the class being short changed at the moment. However, they did fix the threat issues we were having in BC. I remember not being able to dps for 4-5 seconds because my aggro on the tank was insane. or having to wait to dps, because our aggro threat was huge, and let's not go into pre-bc where playing any shaman but resto was an epic failure. SO don't get so upset because we didn't get as great a buff as the rest of the classes, remember where we started from and the huge leaps that enhance and elemental have taken since then.
As for the mediator, perhaps you just don't know how to play your shaman real well. In BC we could top hunters and just about every dps class except rogues and locks. Sure we had our issues, and threat was a huge part, but don't gripe if you haven't played in 6 months.
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Post by
Eleazer
Let's make one last point here. Enhancement and Elemental though broke are not as bad as people are making it out to be. The problem seems from my perspective a lack of general understanding of the class. I see dozens with the wrong gear, dropping the wrong totems, not gemming correctly incorrect knowledge of weapon choices No WF on MH, fast weapons in OH or just period. Shamans are not a class for new people and are definitly not a class for someone who wants to spam one button and win a dps battle. It's about timing, rotations, and learning to spec correctly, we are more reliant on correct spec/gear/and weapon choices than any other class is at this time. They have attempted to fix it from time to time, but it hasn't worked as well as we had hoped.
Post by
Tenshigure
Your whole post is dumb to the max. You don't even have to play or like wow to roam these forums... I haven't touched WoW in 6 months, so you fail on that point.
Why do you complain about the state of the game when you don't ever participate in the game then? How do YOU personally know that the mechanics are so bad that GC obviously must be in the wrong? You're basing all of your statements now on hearsay, which invalidates your comments far more than mine since I'm still an active player during a rough time for the class.
Secondly, I don't know a single class that wasn't ever better than shaman in some way, so no, its not just "their time", they are generally accepted by the majority of people to be the "red head", with only moment here and there where they shined through in some aspect, but failing in other aspects, with rest of the time sitting at the bottom of the barrel.
I must be showing my age...but Shaman were the ORIGINAL OVERPOWERED CLASS OF WOW, VERSION 1.0. In case you forgot, back in the first days, Shaman were conceptually to be a tanking class as well, and due to that not only did we have the strong power we had now, but we could take a punch as well. Soooo.....yea, learn your history before you make a stateent like that.
A quick edit in : Blizzard should expect to be ^&*!@ed at because they're not going a great job at all, they're just doing better than the rest of the MMO failures out there. Better than terrible =/= Good.
They must be doing something right with the playerbase. Aside from that, the fact they had to deal with both Conan & Warhammer last year, and it can be arguably said they regained the vast majority of players who tried to leave for those respective games. Again, I'll also point out that you said you haven't played for 6 months, so how would you know?
Eleazer said it best that when it comes to customer service, if you scream at someone that you don't like something and then curse them for 'being horrible at their job,' universally across the board next to nobody would help you. Be civil and actually provide your issues, and they'll take a reasonable look at it. It's not that difficult to have a subjective opinion on something you are frustrated with (I'm an Engineer in-game for crying out loud), but you can't expect instant gratification on every problem you have.
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