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OK people! We need to set some dual spec guidelines!
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Post by
justinc
Ummmmm. Yeah. I don't think there's going to be any universal guidelines.
Post by
Haxzor
roll for current spec is simple enough.
Thread exists in PvE forum I believe
Post by
Loosa
I agree with all previous posts.
Post by
Ayline
/cough control freak /cough
but I agree with you on a lot of your points. People should only roll on stuff for the spec they joined the raid for. You joined as a tank, but dps for Loatheb? You roll on tank stuff. You joined the raid as dps, but happen to have def gear and tank Patch? Too bad, you're rolling on dps gear. etc.
That's at least how I will run any raids I lead. You wanna build your tanking set, come as a tank. Just like before dual specs. Unless you are not gonna roll on your current spec but building a new main spec.
Sometimes people want to switch spec and they only have gear from the wrong spec. That's ok with me as long as they make the choice, and I(as raid leader) am ok with it, that they roll only on their new spec's items. Maybe a retardin wants to become a healer. Great for you! But your ret set is gonna be the exact same as when you joined and you'll roll on holy gear.
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Post by
DaCyclops
You may find that alot of groups have been doing similar things already. In the Naxx group I am in the rolls go "Roll for Main Spec", then "Roll for Off Spec", then "Roll for Vendor". And that works fine for me - I am ususally one of the tanks, and I have got a crapload of decent gear since joining. I have even got a piece of T7 for my offspec. (whoops, our regular shaman is absent, and no other shamans, warriors, or hunters in our group. Guess that token Gluth dropped is mine.... teehee....).
If your with a person who does that,
Congrats, you have found a bad PUG group
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Your Hearthstone now has a 30 minute cooldown, I would recommend using it at this point.
But most good groups already go with a 'Main, Off, Vendor' cycle.
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Post by
Slimda
You still have a main spec and an offspec. On the chance that you take up two important roles (dps for trash, healing/tanking for bosses), deals can be struck.
Luckily as a feraldruid (dps-main/tank-off), I'm wearing close to the same gear.
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Post by
Sweetscot
People already did this..they just had to pay gold when they actually did switch specs, now they'll do the same thing to you only they get to respec all they want after the initial cost.
People who will roll against main spec for their offspec don't act any differently just because they save gold doing it.
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Post by
Shamanic
It will be a problem in pugs, guaranteed. If you are joining a pug, ask the raid leader/master looter, what are the roll rules going to be? Do this before you get saved, and leave if you're not happy with their answer. If you are worried about 5 mans well be master looter in that too, I've seen it done before!
But the best solution as always is to run raids with your guild or people you have run with before, and know are mature sensible players and it won't be a problem.
There are always idiots, it's just how life is - don't whine after the fact that you grouped with an idiot and something went wrong - protect yourself from them to begin with, the master looter system is there to protect you. If the master looter is an idiot then leave!
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Post by
Afilo
1. agreed roll policy trumps roll guidelines posted here or on blizz form or what ever (if a party/raid want to make own rules, so be it and everyone must agree to it)
2. in my opinion it's current spec > main spec > (other) dual spec > off spec
current spec can be main spec or (other) dual spec ofc, but which of that he's using at the time
x. in my opinion, if someone changes spec on a boss, that will be his new spec
xx. if someone changes because it is needed or otherwise group composition will fail, make clear what spec he'll be rolling on....
in my belief nothing changes with roll stuff when lootmaster is used, only a third and extra roll oppertunity should be introduced (number 2)
1. main/current specc
2. dual specc
3. off specc
(if someone had to change bcs group needed it, that's already taken care of in the list)
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