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New fire-based builds that use Icy Veins?
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TaliaMokani
I've been playing around with the talent calculator in anticipation of Icy Veins giving a decreased cast time every few (2? 3?) minutes, and I'm looking for feedback on some ideas. I came up with 2 potential fire-based specs:
6/44/11:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=obhzZxgMzfccoeRtMhG0o
0/41/20:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oZxxMzfccoeRxchG0s0x
In the former, the 4 points in Imp Arcane Missiles/Arcane Concentration could be put just about anywhere, so it could be brought to 2/48/11. Alternately, points could be taken out of Dragon's Breath and Flame Throwing to get Arcane Concentration up to 4 points total, for a 9/41/11 spec.
The second build mainly came out of "well I'm this far into Frost, why not pick up Shatter?" The main drawback I see is that while Shatter sounds like a great theory, how often would it even come into play? If I don't put up Frost/Ice Armour (or have it up and don't get hit), and I don't put Frostbolt into the rotation (discussion on dps gimpage by sacrificing Fire Ball casts vs dps gain by extra critting on frozen targets? Even without the math, I have a strong suspicion the crits won't make up the damage lost), how often will targets really be frozen?
Just thinking out loud here. Thoughts?
(Obviously, in those trees, imagine Cold Snap = Icy Veins.)
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To Sonicblast: Yes, PvE for the vast majority. I do occasionally PvP, without respeccing in between. (Maybe that's why I keep losing....)
You make some very good points about the second build, and the near-uselessness of Shatter in a raid. Having one of the other 9 raiders break the freeze before I can get off a spell didn't even occur to me - I guess I just solo too much!
To Elibus: I definitely see your point about not needing Pyro, Blast Wave, or Dragon's Breath for a seriously hard-core raiding build. They are a part of the cookie-cutter 10/48/3 build many use now, but you're right, they're rarely used in a raid. For me personally, however, I do a lot of soloing and the occasional PvP, so I like to keep a versatile build. I might respec back and forth a bit, and see which one "feels" better.
"on a side note something i think we can all agree, icey viens plus combustion against the boss when he's under20% life is amazingly sexy looking."
Very sexy. :)
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