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New Aura Mastery + Crusader Aura
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Post by
MischievousLoki
So with the new aura mastery (which you can activate while mounted) will give your whole group/raid an extra 20% speed increase while mounted for 10 seconds.
Mount speed is calculated like this:
(100%+Mount Speed)*Modifier
Normal Ground/Flying (100+60)*1.4 =
224%
Epic Ground: (100+100)*1.4 =
280%
Epic Flying (100+280)*1.4 =
532%
'Legendary' Flying (100+310)*1.4 =
574%
Should make for a great start in most BGs :D
Post by
Quest
u wish =P
Post by
MischievousLoki
u wish =P
I wish what? Everything I posted is 100% true.
Post by
JamieK
Erm, the Aura Mastery Talent only improves the aura by 100%, so the Crusader aura will be 40%.
So.
Normal Ground/Flying (100+60)*1.4 = 100%
Epic Ground: (100+100)*1.4 = 140%
Epic Flying (100+280)*1.4 = 320%
Never used a legendary flying mount, so i can't judge that.
But thats how it seems it will be like
Post by
svirve
Normal Ground/Flying (100+60)*1.4 = 100%
Epic Ground: (100+100)*1.4 = 140%
Epic Flying (100+280)*1.4 = 320%
That math makes no sense what so ever.
The formula is like you've written it but when you've done the calculations something has gone horribly wrong.
( Run speed + Mount speed ) * Crusaderaura
Normal ground/flying mounts:
(100 + 60) * 1,4
160 * 1,4 = 224
224 - 100 = 124
So your 60% mount is now a 124% mount.
Epic ground:
(100 + 100) * 1,4
200 * 1,4 = 280
280 - 100 = 180
So your 100% mount is now a180% mount.
Epic flying:
(100 + 280) * 1,4
380 * 1,4 = 532
532 - 100 = 432
So your 280% mount is now a 432% mount.
"Legendary" flying.
(100 + 310) * 1,4
410 * 1,4 = 574
574 - 100 = 474
So your 310% mount is now a 474% mount.
And this is pretty much what MischievousLoki said in the beginning. Just broken it down so that you can see every step of the calculation.
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227817
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Post by
svirve
Svirve and MischievousLoki, according to your calculations a 100% mount turns into a 140% mount with crusader aura (100+100) * .20 = 40. 200+40 = 240%.
It just adds 20% of your ORIGINAL movement speed.
100% + 100% + 20% > 220% instead of 200% normal movement speed.
Thus, it ought to be 100% + 100% + 20% + 20% > 240% movement speed, IF the skill stacks with crusader aura.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Crusader_Aura
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Post by
227817
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Post by
svirve
Anyway can write on WoWwiki.
According to Monkeyspeed crusader aura does not increase the speed according to that formula.
Got to do a bit of testing now though.
Sure anyone can post on WoWwiki but it wont stay there for very long if it's not correct.
(Miscrediting or badmouthing wowwiki can be a bad idea since it's every smart ass's best friend ;p)
Make sure you test it in azeroth, since to my experience monkeyspeed has been very buggy in northrend.
Will do the same thing to see if we get different results :).
And if the calculations are as you say they are it must've been an undocumented change in 3.1 since i had monkeyspeed on just the other week showing me 456% for my epic flying.
Post by
dslyecix
I believe it's more like this: Crusader Aura adds 20% to whatever your mounted speed is. With Aura Mastery you get 40%.
Regular ground/flying: 160 + 40 = 200%
Epic ground: 240%
Epic flying: 420%
SUPALEET flying: 450%
I dont think there's any multiplication involved, and if it IS a 1.4 multiplier, it only applies to the additional mount speed increase, NOT your default 100% movement speed. Eg regular flying/ground 100 + (60 x 1.4) = 184%, Epic ground: 240% etc.
Post by
Quest
I believe it's more like this: Crusader Aura adds 20% to whatever your mounted speed is. With Aura Mastery you get 40%.
Regular ground/flying: 160 + 40 = 200%
Epic ground: 240%
Epic flying: 420%
SUPALEET flying: 450%
I dont think there's any multiplication involved, and if it IS a 1.4 multiplier, it only applies to the additional mount speed increase, NOT your default 100% movement speed. Eg regular flying/ground 100 + (60 x 1.4) = 184%, Epic ground: 240% etc.
Um. No.
"Increases the mounted speed by 20%" does not say "Adds 20% to base speed before mounted speed"
Post by
dslyecix
I believe it's more like this: Crusader Aura adds 20% to whatever your mounted speed is. With Aura Mastery you get 40%.
Regular ground/flying: 160 + 40 = 200%
Epic ground: 240%
Epic flying: 420%
SUPALEET flying: 450%
I dont think there's any multiplication involved, and if it IS a 1.4 multiplier, it only applies to the additional mount speed increase, NOT your default 100% movement speed. Eg regular flying/ground 100 + (60 x 1.4) = 184%, Epic ground: 240% etc.
Um. No.
"Increases the mounted speed by 20%" does not say "Adds 20% to base speed before mounted speed"
When a speed is given as a percentage already, eg it's units are "percentage" then yes, it's certainly possible that an "increases the mounted speed by 20%" does in fact mean "adds 20%".
I said nothing about "before mounted speed".
Also, like I said, if this isn't the case, the multiplicative bonus would apply ONLY to the mounted speed portion of movement. The 574% and 474% don't make much sense to me, because in both cases the 1.4 multiplier has been applied to the base 100% run speed (and in the case of the latter, 100% then subtracted after the fact, but still contributing to the bonus).
The simplest way would be to read it exactly as written. Legendary flying mounts say "increases speed by 310%", and crusader aura "increases the mounted speed by 20%". Logically this would make them a 310 x 1.2 = 372% (434% with Aura Mastery active) increase in speed...
Post by
Quest
You are just confusing yourself.
You have "speed=x". You have a modifier that says it will make it faster by 20%. Thats multiplicative. How you get "speed=x" is irrelevant.
Not to mention that additive is written like "Grants an additional x% to skill/ability z" ingame.
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201933
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Post by
Quest
Agreeing with them doesnt make them right.
Post by
svirve
Let me make a quick explanation on how this whole thing works.
All speed increasing applications (trinkets, talents, spells etc..) are
multiplicative
!
Take
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26023
for example.
It will make you run at 115% speed. (1*1.15=1.15)
If you use it with a 60% mount you'll be moving at 184% OR the equivelant of a 84% mount.
Use it with a 100% speed mount you'll be moving at 230% OR the equivelant of a 130% speed mount
574 - 100 = 474
So your 310% mount is now a 474% mount.
First of all the reason to why i subtracted the 100% run speed at the end is because you can go off to your friends and stroke your epeens saying "Hey i've got a 474% mount" the actual movement speed will still be 574%.
Now since everybody here thinks wowwiki=bullcrap im gonna get some screenshots with monkeyspeed up to make you all go /facepalm yourselves in a corner.
For this test i have turned off all my other addons apart from monkeyspeed.
The first thing i noticed is that monkeyspeed will go from 99%-101% when just running on a straight stretch. It was a bit more accurate to 100% when running directly north/south/east/west. I guess this has to do with the coordinates.
If anyone is gonna say im wrong after this i suggest trying to do anything with monkeyspeed on your own it's fluctuating insanely.
Anyway here's normal running
And 100% speed mount without any increases
100% speed mount with crusader aura:
100% speed mount with crusader aura and aura mastery
The last image has been edited because i got invited to a group when i took it and even though i dont mind having my name on the pictures other people may not.
Now do i have to say more than "we win you loose"?
Or perhaps "Veni, Vidi, Vici"
or maybe "I teabag you in your sleep!"
Post by
329606
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Post by
svirve
Since when is one able to cast Aura Mastery while mounted?
It has always been castable while mounted.
Look at the last screenshot i posted. 8 seconds on aura mastery and im mounted.
So, because you can't cast it while on a mount, that leaves you with what, 7 secs under its improved effects.... Why is this an issue?
Read above
There is only one BG that this would be even remotely useful in. AB - and it would do nothing but get you to the Farm / Stables from the start a second or two before the rest of your team could get there.
Well what about the other thousands of hours of game time in wow than?
Post by
329606
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