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New 40mans Anyone?
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ankorafeonix
Wouldn't it be great to see another 40 man epic raid reminiscient of the olds days put in? I love the feel of the new raids, but it seems like Blizzards taking the emphasis off skill somewhat and putting it onto simply having good gear. So I wanna know what ideas other people would have for their ideal 40 man raid in Lich King today, be it their dream Icecrown Citadel, or even something completely different?
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ankorafeonix
Hmm, do you think the reason players are more terrible than before is because Blizzard doesn't challenge them enough? I know I found levelling a character through Lich King was infintely more easy and noob-friendly than classic, but I enjoyed classic way more because when I finally capped it was so much more rewarding to take part in epic raids. Raids these days are mindless gear farming lol. No one ever said lets clear MC twice tonight and a few more times tomorrow, it'll be easy as =D
That said, I guess Blizz is just trying to cater to the 10+ million new players since classic. Challenge them more I say.
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Sorrowbone
2. 40-man raids are PUG unfriendly
3. 40-man raids are casual guild unfriendly.
That sir, is a load of rubbish. It's about time we had a raid where PuGs and Casuals can't do it. Think back to vanilla; PuG's and Casuals never did them and it didn't harm anyone.
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Post by
TheMediator
No one wants 40 mans for real. People just say they do, but they don't, they just want a way to keep other players from getting loot the same quality as themselves. Sadly, they don't see that if you raid for gear you should just quit since the gear just becomes easier to get next patch. Instead, they make stupid threads like this.
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wigg1es
Hmm, do you think the reason players are more terrible than before is because Blizzard doesn't challenge them enough?Rubbish. I've been playing only since Lich King and I can raid just fine with anyone from Vanilla.
Don't assume that just because I didn't have to do a bunch of miscellaneous elite group quests and grind for hours on end farming instances over and over for gear that I don't know how to play my character.
40 man raids... No thanks.
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Post by
Kalisha
I was around for the old 40 man raids and I loved them. I still get nostalgic and miss them occasionally. I wouldn't trade in those experiences for anything. Honestly though, some people need to take off their rose colored glasses.
The old 40 mans were not
hard
, they were
time consuming
. At any point in time half of your raid could be AFK/pretending to pay attention on auto-follow/fallen asleep at the keyboard auto-running into a wall somewhere. That's not even counting the ones that were drunk and serenading you in vent. The only skill required was trying to coordinate that many people with the attention span of a spoon at one time.
Gear
was still an issue
then - probably more so than now. These days you don't have to collect three different sets of resist gear, on top of whatever else you need to carry around.
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Post by
anywherenotes
I'd like to see 1 40-man.
I'd like to see a raid which requires 100 tanks and 20 healers. DPS will be proviced by NPCs joining in.
Good luck to both of us.
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Post by
xaratherus
2. 40-man raids are PUG unfriendly
3. 40-man raids are casual guild unfriendly.
That sir, is a load of rubbish. It's about time we had a raid where PuGs and Casuals can't do it. Think back to vanilla; PuG's and Casuals never did them and it didn't harm anyone.
They're called "hard modes".
Saying that it didn't harm anyone - when in fact the PvE game tends to be focused on end game content by Blizzard's own admission - is what's a load of rubbish; it's what hardcore raiders tell themselves to quiet their conscience when it whispers, "You know you only want this uniqueness to stroke your ego."
That being said: I would be for having a 40-man raid
mode
on raids. But I wouldn't consider it a priority, simply because it caters to a very minor portion of the game's population (i.e., those who have the desire and the ability to get 40 people to dedicate 3-5 hours of time on a scheduled date).
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