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Post by
Nitewalkr
Hello guys;
I recently changed from Fire rotation to Arcane because I've seen people doing 5k+ damage with it.
However, as I changed it my dps went from 4k-2.5k in raids. Last time I had maximum of 3k dps in TOGC.
After reading few threads I figured that I need more haste, spirit and spell power instead of hit, crit and spell power.
at the moment I have hit 15.48%, haste is 17.35% spell power is 2436, spirit is 369 and crit is 24.53%
No matter how fast I dps I endup with 2800 dps max. Which is unacceptable in most cases.
Your help will be really appreciated.
Thanks. This is my character.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormrage&n=Nitewalkr
Post by
twsX
You must be doing something wrong then.
Stacking AB to 4 and then MBarr'ing with the first proc, repeat, really CAN'T get you any lower than, say, 4-5k DPS in your gear.
Yeah, you have too much hit and you need more haste.
But
my own gear
is not much better than yours, and i run 7k easily in TOGC.
Post by
Nitewalkr
hmm...do I need more crit with haste? I have much spirit already.
I assume Sunstrider's set is a horde version of T9..
You got me going there for a minute. <.<
Post by
Nitewalkr
You must be doing something wrong then.
Stacking AB to 4 and then MBarr'ing with the first proc, repeat, really CAN'T get you any lower than, say, 4-5k DPS in your gear.
Yeah, you have too much hit and you need more haste.
But
my own gear
is not much better than yours, and i run 7k easily in TOGC.
Arcane blast x 1 > (Arcane Missiles > Arcane Barrage) x repeat until I get missile barriage buff for Arcane Missiles again, than repeat the process.
I seriously need help in terms of increasing my dps..=(
Post by
Firebird31
From what i understand. you ALWAYS 4stack Arcane Blast, no ifs ands or whats about it. Now within those 4 AB's if you proc'ed MBarrage use Missile reset rotation. No Mbarrage proc you have two options.
A. try 1 or 2 more AB's for the MBarrage proc, no proc defer to option B
B. Clear with Arcane Barrage and reset rotation.
if you happen to proc Mbarrage from the Abarrage you used to reset your rotation i heard it is more beneficial to use it before stacking AB to 4 again since you dont wanna overlap a perfectly good Mbarrage. (not to sure, someone will confirm probably) i could get more technical but i dont feel like it. long day.
From what i understand Arcane is alot about mana management and smart use of cooldowns for max dps. Right use of mana gem, evocation, arcane power, PoM etc.
My mage just hit 80 so im alittle new to it since my only 80 has been my hunter for along time.
Post by
twsX
From what i understand. you ALWAYS 4stack Arcane Blast, no ifs ands or whats about it. Now within those 4 AB's if you proc'ed MBarrage use Missile reset rotation. No Mbarrage proc you have two options.
A. try 1 or 2 more AB's for the MBarrage proc, no proc defer to option B
B. Clear with Arcane Barrage and reset rotation.
if you happen to proc Mbarrage from the Abarrage you used to reset your rotation i heard it is more beneficial to use it before stacking AB to 4 again since you dont wanna overlap a perfectly good Mbarrage. (not to sure, someone will confirm probably) i could get more technical but i dont feel like it. long day.
From what i understand Arcane is alot about mana management and smart use of cooldowns for max dps. Right use of mana gem, evocation, arcane power, PoM etc.
My mage just hit 80 so im alittle new to it since my only 80 has been my hunter for along time.
Not sure if i get the first part right. You propose to use missles immediatly if MBarr procs with 1-3 stacks of AB up? If so, this is wrong.
Using ABarr to clear a 4-AB-stack is only good if you're having serious mana issues, which shouldn't happen on his level of gear.
Assuming you have cleared it with ABarr, and MBarr procs off it, whether one should use the proc before stacking AB to 4 again or not, is (as far as i've been reading) unclear. In any case, it's going to be very close, so i wouldn't worry about it. Myself, i stack AB to 4 first.
Post by
DerrHans
AB4x AM on Mbarr proc.
But just what Firebird says clear AB4 stack with Abarr if u havent got the proc. 17xxMana per cast is alot.
Arcane is all about managing CD's and Mana.
Try to get more haste as thats good for arcane.
Also 1 trinket advise is getting the, on-use SP trinket from triumph badges. Using that + Arcane Power is darn nice and Icy viens is serious Bursting. Just lose some hit and crit to hast and ur ready to go. If u wanna know my gear just click the clicky in my sig.
Post by
Nitewalkr
hmm..I wonder where you got that chest piece from since it does not have a source..but I guess I'll follow up with your armory..
So no crit required at all..Thats a bit strange though....
Edit: 8.50% hit! O.O
Wont that just.....make your all attempts missed?
Post by
Nitewalkr
I guess you are right! AB stack 4 is the major damage..<.<
I think I should really have a good test run before I post and ask for help.=\
last time I tried:
AB x 4 > AM > ABarr > AM > ABarr > AB x 4 > AM >ABarr (AM instantly if under the MB buff)
I was able to pull off 4k dps =D
So now I'll just work on decreasing the hit rating by switching gems with haste +20 and haste enchant maybe (not sure if there are any.)
Crit rating:
I use MC for my crit which brings it up to 36% and there is an arcane buff which gives you 2ice as much so you endup with 60%ish.
So do I need crit still? or should I just work on my haste..=S
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Post by
DerrHans
hmm..I wonder where you got that chest piece from since it does not have a source..but I guess I'll follow up with your armory..
So no crit required at all..Thats a bit strange though....
Edit: 8.50% hit! O.O
Wont that just.....make your all attempts missed?
8.50% + Boomkin = Hit capped ;)
I got the triumph badge 128 hit trinket in my bags for the rare occasions of not having a boomkin in the raid.
(only raid 10 mans with guild)
Chest piece is Crafted, pattern drops in ToC10 Hard and ToC25
Early days of 3.2 this robe was 10k gold, luckly we had the pattern dropped for us ;)
Just go with Haste+Spirit gear as u can, cause molten armor converts the spirit into crit. Some Crit items arent bad to have but arcane prefer more haste.
Post by
Madmick
I don't mean to insult you, but are you remembering to use Arcane Power?
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