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Need good advice on Holy Paladin...
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Post by
Bladeslicer24
Im sure there are several posts about helpfuul threads and gear/stats, But I have read all of those and stil need some actual advice from people who have healed and seen content....please dont link me specific threads that should be read I just want some tips and hints as to Healing with a Paladin, there are many questions I have. I am used to being right against a boss stabbing him thoroughly with daggers as a rogue and with a 2H mace as a DK, but now its a different game im gonan be back throwing heals lol, im a little panicked..
My main questions are, mostly about the instant casts we have such as whens the best time in a boss fight to pop sacred shield or Divine illumination or divine plea? What are the best and worse case scenerios we come into? I know they may seem irrelevant but i would like to know what im getting into. :) thanks for any help and if there are any add ons that i havent mentioned I have that may be useful that would be great.
Add-ons: Beacon Countdown, Clique, Grid, Pallypower, Omen, Recount.
tl;dr Need some healing advice since Ive never healed before, I have read all the "helpful Threads" but havent helped.
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Post by
TheJohan
I also went holy at lvl 80, and i must say its not a cakewalk to learn how to heal as a paladin. I have read anything and everything i can find conserning holy paladins. I also searched all the threads here on Wowhead.
We have an excellent guide in the stickies here, and it helped alot, but..
It all comes down to practice. The better gear you have, the easier it becomes to heal (obviously, and you have alot of gearimprovements to make), but you still need to know what buttons you have to push. So just go out there and learn by trying.
Even so, here is some of the things i learned:
When i started healing, i just put bacon and sacred shield on the tank, and then started flashing everyone like mad. This worked, to the extent that it did not drain my mana, wich i was most afraid of. Altho, the tank took more damage than i could handle with flash of light, and my holy lights where too late.
Thats when i learned the wonderful power of Judgements as holy. Judging improved the rate i could throw out flashes. Combining it with a holy shock once in a while made it even better. But still, sometimes the tank took too much damage, and my holy lights where too late.
Thats when i learned the wonderful power of Light's Grace. Using holy light once in a while, even if it only contributed to overhealing, made it ALOT easier to catch up on the heals when @#$% hit the fan. Then i tried healing Heroic ToC.
And my Holy Lights where too late.
Thats when i learned the wonderful power of Lay on Hands. Really. Bacon stil on tank, Lay on Hands on yourself for a huge boost of mana, and tank stays alive long enough for you to continue healing the rest of your party. Or LoH on someone who was out of range for a few seconds and made you run. I'm still learning to use it more often.
TL;DR? Get out there. Learn. Use all the abilities you have, they help.
Post by
freedfromthereal
I look at pally healing a lot like DPS'ing: there's a list of things you have to do, and they all need to be done right. The only difference is that instead of your DPS dropping by doing something wrong someone drops dead :P. Here's the general priority system I use for most raids/heroics, and it's worked out well so far.
1) Keep myself up (only applies in heroics)
2) Keep SS up
3) Keep Bacon up on designated target*
4) Keep judgement/buff up (if possible/needed)
5) Heal away!
*= If you're designated to heal a tank, toss your beacon on the other tank, that way you're maximizing the chance of getting twice the healing in.
Also, whenever you need mana fast pop DP + wings and any spellpower trinkets you have (if any); it alleviates the healing penalty on DP allowing you to still toss out relatively large heals and save the day by keeping everyone up :D.
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Post by
pezz
1) Keep myself up (only applies in heroics)
2) Keep SS up
3) Keep Bacon up on designated target*
4) Keep judgement/buff up (if possible/needed)
5) Heal away!
*= If you're designated to heal a tank, toss your beacon on the other tank, that way you're maximizing the chance of getting twice the healing in.
Not really:
1) Heal tanks who are seconds from death
2) Heal anyone else seconds from death
3) Remove gimmicky, one-shot style debuffs from tanks
4) Remove gimmicky, one-shot style debuffs from anyone else
5) Heal anyone seriously in need of health, but not seconds from death
6) Worry about anything else
7) Heal anyone else
Those little green bars that show up on your screen are your first priority, same as any other healing class. Even more so for us, because while we can be equally as effective raid healers as other classes, we rely on triage more than they do.
Post by
Squishalot
*= If you're designated to heal a tank, toss your beacon on the other tank, that way you're maximizing the chance of getting twice the healing in.
I think you (and many other healers) are still living in the pre-3.2 days. Beacon now transfers overheals, so Holy Paladins are now often asked to beacon the tank and heal the raid (probably focusing on melee DPS to avoid getting out of Beacon range).
That's how you'd heal heroics nowadays, anyway.
To the OP - practice on L71-79 dungeons first to get the hang of healing, then move into early heroics, and keep going. Can't get enough practice.
Post by
hmrhead
Bacon on the tank might help with the black eye the boss gave him. Beacon will, however, keep him alive. Sorry. I had to.
Keeping sacred shield up on the tank should be somewhat of a priority I believe. Granted, the damage mitigation from it would be the equivalent of trying to stop a fire with a ziploc bag, but the importance is the HOT received by the tank from FOL while SS is up. My FOL raid buffed crits for 6-8k putting a hot on the tank for 600-800. This may not sound like a lot but in those two tank fights where you have one tank beaconed and are healing the other one, this is a life-saver while switching targets to renew the beacon.
As said in the previous post, beacon now transfers over-heals so its importance cannot be overstated. Previously this wasn't the case so beaconing the tank was actually rather dangerous because your tank would only be healed for the amount you healed your target for. NOT the overheals. Thankfully this was fixed allowing us to become more raid-heal ready, but pallies will never out raid-heal a holy priest or resto druid.
Learning the fights will help you the most. Each fight, especially the TOC and TOGC content brings a whole new dimension to healing because as most of you have seen, it's the Olympics of not standing in sh**.
Also, check wow-heroes.com for the best rated holy pallies on your server. Seek them out and ask questions before going into a raid. They usually have more than enough ego to want to tell you what you should do. ;-) And if they don't, move onto the next one.
Best of luck to you and happy healing!
Post by
TheJohan
Bacon keeps tanks alive. I stand by that statement.
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