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Adamsm
The goblins helped build Orgrimmar, capital city of the Horde.
The goblins helped the Horde establish settlements throughout Kalimdor.
The goblins transport the Horde (exclusively) to and from both continents.
The goblins played a key role in the Horde offensive in Northrend.
Goblins don't "help" they charge out the nose for the right to do that. And I have no doubt for every horde settlement they built, they did the same for the Alliance. The biggest thing is simply because there are so many Night Elf towns on Kalimdor, they didn't get as much work. And they don't "Exclusively" transport just the Horde, the boats from Ratchet and Booty Bay do business for both Alliance and Horde. Again, they may transport Horde from Thunderbluff to Orgimmar, then Orgirmmar to Undercity, but they sure as heck don't do it for free.
The goblins are a neutral power at this point, in all out war between Alliance and Horde, they would take the same position as they did during the Third War: Your a human, I'll give you a ride, Your a Horde? I'll give you a ride.
If Horde get's Goblins, it will be a faction within in the Steamwheedle that is fed up with the Neutrality, or it will be throwbacks from the Second War.
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Skreeran
Well, of course. Booty Bay and Ratchet will remains neutral towns (if they survive), I don't think the Horde would get
all
goblins.
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Adamsm
Also, this is a serious question here as I've yet to get a Horde toon to 80: What did the goblins do to assist the Northrend battles? Beyond K3(which is the Northrend Steamwheedle Cartel town) and possibly building the Horde version of the Skybreaker? Again this is a serious question, I would like to know as it would help to increase my know how of Lore.... and not make me start in on yet another alt heh.
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Adamsm
So they did the same thing they've been doing for the Alliance and Horde since Warcraft came out? Sorry but just because they taxied them up to Warsong Hold, doesn't mean they were there fighting. Hell if they could figure out a way to, you know the goblins would be selling to the Legion and all the other "evil" factions.
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Skreeran
Also, this is a serious question here as I've yet to get a Horde toon to 80: What did the goblins do to assist the Northrend battles? Beyond K3(which is the Northrend Steamwheedle Cartel town) and possibly building the Horde version of the Skybreaker? Again this is a serious question, I would like to know as it would help to increase my know how of Lore.... and not make me start in on yet another alt heh.I don't know if you've done any Isle of Conquest yet, but while the Alliance have Gnomish Engineers building their war machines and manning their hangar, the Horde has goblins.
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Adamsm
Horde and Alliance
TinkerThe goblins care little for the Alliance and Horde conflicts; what concerns them, as usual, is the effect these events have on their cash flow. The goblins do not, as a rule, like the Scourge, as the undead threatened to wipe out the entire populations of the Alliance and Horde, leaving the goblins with no customers. War is profitable for the goblins; annihilation is not. Once they served as suicide mercenaries for the Horde; now the goblins have made their place as the strongest merchant race in the world. If one wants to purchase something, whether it is supplies, equipment, weapons, magic items or even slaves, the goblins either have it or know where to get it. All that matters is the price, in their eyes..
The goblins like a balance of power. Military conflicts make money for the goblins as the combatants purchase supplies, and if the two sides are evenly matched, conflicts could go on for generations. This promises fat purse bags for the goblins for years to come. The goblins helped out the Horde for years because of this, but now they feel the Horde has come to match the Alliance in power, and they rest in the neutral middle, satisfied to play mercenary and merchant to either side.
The goblins understand the Alliance better than they understand the neutral races, as they have a long history of dealings with the Alliance. As merchants, they are frequently found in Theramore, and as mercenaries, they may even be found among the Alliance armies. True business entrepreneurs, goblins understand their customers very well and almost always know what they want. Their favorite Alliance customers are the high elves, who jump at the chance to buy magical items. Although many in the Alliance consider the goblin mercenaries to be war profiteers, they are not above using them. If they have no tinkers, or their tinkers have died in a previous battle, they sometimes have to go to the goblins for repairs or supplies. And the goblins are always ready to help a customer, for the right price. The goblins’ skills certainly don’t stop at trade. Although not as talented at the invention of firearms as the Ironforge dwarves, the goblins have refined their inventing talents to create a handful of very useful tools that are, of course, for sale. Since the latest conflicts, the goblins have modified their marketing tactics to focus on pushing their deforestation operations to the night elves, of all races, to help clear out the cursed Felwood Forest. They also sell their zeppelins to the night elves, so that these customers can spot and put an end to deforestation. They made a great deal of money selling items to help the Alliance fight Illidan and his army of blood elves and naga, and constantly remind the Alliance members who travel through Ratchet that Illidan is still out there and supplies are always needed. Some merchants are able to mask the tone of glee in their voices while saying this, but most don’t bother.
The Horde and the goblins get along fairly well, as the orcs remember the (well-paid) sacrifice of the goblins for their cause in earlier wars. They still purchase zeppelins and other goblin services. The goblins often enjoy the company of the orcs, and the war veterans from both races will get together and drink if offered the opportunity. Old friends, the Goblins fought with the Horde in the Second War, but broke off when they realized that it’s more profitable to work both sides. However, many goblins remember the fun of the Horde and are willing to lower mercenary prices to Thrall and his people. Goblins offer almost exclusive transport services for the Horde, whether in their steamboats or zeppelins. You’re more likely to find a team of goblin sappers, who take great pleasure in the chaos the Horde creates, meshed into Horde forces than those of the Alliance. Perhaps with enough persuasion, the goblins could be convinced to rejoin the Horde for the first time since the Second War (although that could be just as harmful as helpful, knowing the goblins).
Goblin zeppelin Perhaps the only remaining goblin scruple is that they will not betray a customer. While they understand each side of the war very well, if the Alliance is paying them for services, merchant or mercenaries, they will not act as double agents for the Horde. This is as close to honor as the goblins usually get.
Alright, fine, they might have goblins in Horde colours, doesn't mean the entire race would join up with them. That would be bad for business after all. And again, if they did build Warsong Hold like your saying, they probably charged an arm and a leg for it.
Edit with Skreeran post: Of course the Wintergrasp vechile shops are run by goblins that make machines for both sides.
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Skreeran
Of course not.
Remember, in the Second War, it was only one Trade Prince that pledged his goblins to the Horde. I imagine something similar this time...
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