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My Thoughts on Cataclysm...
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Post by
Blackboy0
Well, these are my thoughts on the
new Expansion information
released on MMO-Champion. It may not be fully (or even half) true, but I'd like to share my thoughts anyways.
Alliance Race: Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.
That is some perfect lore in my opinion. Gilneas was the closest kingdom to Arugal's outbreak of the Worgen, so naturally they would be the ones to fall under the power of the Worgen curse.
But
, they managed to find a
partial
cure, allowing them to keep their mind when in Worgen form. This means they are not wild beasts, and can be a great help towards the Alliance's cause.
Horde Race: Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.
I think the current story is total bull. Why was Thrall captured on an Alliance ship, why would he offer the Goblins, who have never been on one side longer than a war, a place for saving him
once
? It just makes
NO
sense whatsoever.
New Class Combinations
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.
Well, some of these I can see happening. Some of them I have actually wanted for awhile, and now seeing them I am overjoyed. Others however, make me not so overjoyed. Here's some of my thoughts:
Human Hunter - The smartest of all of these. In real life there are hunters that are humans (Real life, zomg?) so it would make the most sense.
Orc Mage - If they have been Shamans and had power of the world, then Warlocks and power of the dark arts, why couldn't they switch to something more arcanic?
Night Elf Mage - The Highborne were the first, why can't the Night Elves re-visit their arcanic ways?
Dwarf Mage - Nothing really to say about this one.
Blood Elf Warrior - Nothing really against it, other than Blood Elves are beings of arcane and magic, and I don't see why they would wish to beat the living daylights out of something with a large weapon with "Rage".
Dwarf Shaman - The Wildhammers have Shamans and have had dealings with the Ironforge Clan since the beginning of their clans. Who knows, maybe a Wildhammer taught an Ironforge-er about the arts of Shamanism?
Undead Hunter - If Humans can become hunters, why not Undead? Undead are just undead humans, and retain a memory of their past. If they were hunters before, they would remember all their skills.
Tauren Paladin - Not really smart of Blizzard for this one. Tauren do not believe in the Light.
Tauren Priest - Like Paladins, Tauren do not believe in the Light.
Gnome Priest - Who knows, after being the only race who cannot heal themselves through magical powers, maybe one Gnome got annoyed and took it upon himself to finally learn how to wield this "Light" all the Priests were talking about.
Troll Druid - The only other race that Druids make sense with. In Zul'Gurub there are high priests who channel the patron gods into themselves, and are able to transform with the power imbued. Trolls are also one of the most in-tune with the world and it's natural races.
Post by
Blackboy0
Deathwing, the Destroyer
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?
After being defeated countless times by mortals and other dragons alike, he must be fed up. With his daughters, sons, and now his mate all dead, he is seeking revenge like no other upon the lords of the world. With Sinestra's experiments on creating the Twilight Dragonflight, it is said that Deathwing has finally perfected his new "sons and daughters". Who knows if he has and is just waiting for the right time, or just wishes to hide out in Grim Batol the rest of his years.
Queen Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?
The most powerful mage on Azeroth, now an Eternal, is planning something big for Azeroth. She has been waiting, plotting, and scheming beneath the Maelstrom for 10,004 years now. I believe Vashj, her head mistress, was a scout of Azshara's who was to go into the world and see what had become of it. With her death, maybe Azshara believes the mortal races have grown stronger and is now waiting for the perfect time to strike; with the powerful Deathwing, or the other Old Gods.
The Guardian of Tirisfal: Thrall
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.
Total bull. Thrall has, and never will, be one of the Arcanic arts. He said himself that it is not his thing in the Lord of the Clans. He is a Shaman and warrior, not a Mage. Med'dan would be the best suited for the rolll of the Guardian of Tirisfal.
Another thing, why would Malfurion Stormrage, the first of all
Druids
, come to help the Guardian of Tirisfal, a group of
Mages
who are bent on fighting the Burning Legion?
The New, New Horde - Garrosh' Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?
The downfall of all races. With Garrosh at the head of the Horde, the world is as good as done. Atleast for all races but the Orcs. Garrosh is, as I have said many times and will continue saying until Blizzard shows me otherwise, a
child
who thinks he is as great as his father: Grom Hellscream.
I believe that Thrall should demote Garrosh. Garrosh is too unstable to lead. He is too blood-thirsty, and that clouds his judgment as it did with Thrall in the
Lord of the Clans
but, unlike Garrosh, Thrall overcame it and lead with mercy and his brain, not his blade.
Post by
Adamsm
Interesting, but you should have checked
here
before you created this, we've been discussing it there for the past few days.
Post by
Blackboy0
Interesting, but you should have checked
here
before you created this, we've been discussing it there for the past few days.
Pfft, why post there when I can make my own Thread? xD
Post by
104395
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Blackboy0
The Horde has been on good terms with the goblins since WoW started, or hadn't you noticed all the goblin merchants and zeppelins? Oh, they also helped build Orgrimmar.
Also, the Worgen storyline is laughable. In five years, not one person has flown over the wall to scout Gilneas and see how they were doing. Right...
They have been on good terms, yes, but so has the Alliance. Goblins are on good terms with whoever pays the highest or threatens the most. (E.x. - Deathwing)
They've been sort of busy with the war =\
Post by
Adamsm
The Goblin knew when they saw the Horde go down, and hard, at the end of the 2nd War, that they would be better off playing both sides against each other then allying with one and fighting the other. As for the Gilenas thing, just because we fly everywhere in Outland and Northrend, you usually don't do that in Azeroth, after all, other then the Wildhammers, the Alliance doesn't really have an aerial army force.
(Damn you Black, making me post stuff in your thread. Heh))
Post by
Blackboy0
The Goblin knew when they saw the Horde go down, and hard, at the end of the 2nd War, that they would be better off playing both sides against each other then allying with one and fighting the other. As for the Gilenas thing, just because we fly everywhere in Outland and Northrend, you usually don't do that in Azeroth, after all, other then the Wildhammers, the Alliance doesn't really have an aerial army force.
(Damn you Black, making me post stuff in your thread. Heh))
And the Wildhammers are too busy with the Trolls in the Hinterlands to be flying over the rotten humans in Gilneas.
Post by
Skreeran
The Goblin knew when they saw the Horde go down, and hard, at the end of the 2nd War, that they would be better off playing both sides against each other then allying with one and fighting the other. As for the Gilenas thing, just because we fly everywhere in Outland and Northrend, you usually don't do that in Azeroth, after all, other then the Wildhammers, the Alliance doesn't really have an aerial army force.
(Damn you Black, making me post stuff in your thread. Heh))Have you played a Warcraft 3 deathmatch? It always seems the Alliance has nothing but Aerial force... :P
I always have to make an all Troll Berserker army to actually fight them... :P
Post by
Patty
Don't forget Ironforge has an Airport, and I am sure Gnomes make mini planes. :D
Post by
Adamsm
..... /Sigh, I truly hate you all heh. But yeah, alright fine; as for why they haven't flown over Gilneas? Because there's a giant invisible wall keeping everything out *shifty eyes*.
Post by
387103
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Adamsm
Gothri, most of the the lore stuff; Thrall becoming Guardian, Garrosh killing Cairne, came off of SomethingAwful.com. As much as I hate to admit, it looks like, from what people have been noticing during Ulduar and the similar instances, that there is some type of cataclysmic upheavel coming that will affect Azeroth, and there will be new races, but beyond that, take everything posted with a metric crap ton of salt. Blizzcon is just in a few more days, we'll find out everything then.
Post by
Skreeran
Well, Boiboullie or whoever on Mmo-champino says quote:
I didn't want to hide the source of the quote posted a few minutes after my news post but I think a lot of people misunderstood that. After I posted the original information, a post appeared on Something Awful with a few extra details and I eventually merged it when it turned out to be ... reliable. The only details added from this post were :
* The "big" changes to the existing lore (I don't want to spoil it again, you know what I'm talking about)
* Gnomeregan possibly retaken by gnomes
* Blackrock Spire eruption.
And I think that's it, everything else was from my own personal work and is data gathered from multiple sources over the last month.
So he/she says that he only put it there because it fit with stuff (s)he had already heard.
Post by
Adamsm
I didn't want to hide the source of the quote posted a few minutes after my news post but I think a lot of people misunderstood that. MMOchampion is going to lose a lot of rep for that post, he/she/it should have come right out from the beginning, instead of stirring up all the nerdlore rage about Thrall and the Horde. Again, should have figured it was false about that seeing as there was nothing, nothing at all about the Alliance lore changing, as we all know if Garrosh took over the Horde, Varian would be on his doorstep throwing a "Let's kill the Orcs!" Party.
Post by
229054
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Post by
Skreeran
Undead/Human Hunter
Up until recently, the Hunter class has been druidic like to me. Not only archers, but as Rangers they would call upon Nature.I guess that the Aspects and such weren't Nature magic at all.Well, you have Dwarf Hunters already...
Have you played a Warcraft 3 deathmatch? It always seems the Alliance has nothing but Aerial force... :P
Everyone spams air in that game, sadly. That's why I play mods and an awesome Warcraft II-like map.Hmm... That sounds good. I never spam air... I spam Grunts...
Which, unfortunately, is utterly whipped by a nice aerial army... >.>
Question: Wowwiki mentions a Lord of the Clans fan-made campaign for War3... Have you heard of this? I'm a total stranger to War3 mods...
Post by
229054
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Blackboy0
Troll Druid - The only other race that Druids make sense with.
I disagree.
Blood Elves and High Elves got druidic presence in their culture.
The Trolls are the next ones to get Druid, it's the smartest choice. Show me one mob that is a Blood Elf / High Elven Druid.
Tauren Paladin - Not really smart of Blizzard for this one. Tauren do not believe in the Light.
Tauren Priest - Like Paladins, Tauren do not believe in the Light.
Wrong. Not all priests are wielders of the Light. There are Moon (for the Night Elves), Shadow (Trolls and the Undead) and Sun (which the High Elves supposedly worshipped and which the Taurens supposedly would worship).
There are Sun Paladins as well.
I've been talking with a friend and yes, it seems like I was wrong on this. He's saying that the Night Elves have been teaching the Tauren, and the Tauren in turn teaching the Night Elves, about the Moon and Sun.
Undead/Human Hunter
Up until recently, the Hunter class has been druidic like to me. Not only archers, but as Rangers they would call upon Nature.I guess that the Aspects and such weren't Nature magic at all.
Where do they call upon Nature? They use special skills and spells, yes, and most of their damage is "Arcane" or "Nature" damage, but that is just because Blizzard is too stupid add in "Ranged" damage xD
Post by
Adamsm
Him?
If you look at the non-class based Druid information on Wowwiki, they do state that the High/Blood Elves could possibly druids.
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