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Meta, and it's Raiding Abilities..
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asakawa
it's ok. not the top in terms of theorycraft but comes with more utility than other lock specs.
Post by
MegamanX400
It pulls pretty good numbers and is fun to use. When raiding, it's best to time it with Heroism/Bloodlust for the most output. But it's not a chart topper, but it does help out the raid with DP. So it's really up to you. If you're looking to be top in DPS, probably won't happen with this spec.
Personally I found I was top in damage but lower in DPS... it's weird lol
Post by
Fingulfin
Meta is a solid spec... Not the "potential" best, but it can pull great DPS and thats what counts. With the rarity of Elemental Shamans nowadays (at least on my Realm) Deep Demo's utility is a godsend as well.
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Fingulfin
The fact that it only has ~18% uptime, compared to
~15% flat damage increase ALL the time
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Post by
byrel
The fact that it only has ~18% uptime, compared to
~15% flat damage increase ALL the time
.
uptime can be much better than 18% - 36s duration on a 126 second cooldown (assuming you glyph for it and spec into nemesis)
But, now with Ulduar out and once a Demo gets BiS items, DP will be better then the totem of wrath with fair ease after being fully raid buffed(once at 2810 sp buffed, he'll give 281 SP and it'll just go up from there).
it doesn't take all BiS items - I have one item from ulduar with pretty much all the rest from naxx 25 and have about 3200 spell power with raid buffs before totem of wrath - add in glyph of life tap (which should always be up) and you're looking at a 70-80 sp increase from ToW
Post by
orloxgr
utility is great. I can give ~320 spellpower to the hole raid 90% of the time. Its more that a shaman but i dont give the crit
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Fingulfin
The fact that it only has ~18% uptime, compared to
~15% flat damage increase ALL the time
.
Still Meta gives 20% increase for all spells in its duranation.. Ember gives 15% to only firespells..
I take it you failed elementary math.
Post by
asakawa
36/126*100=28.6% if you use meta on cooldown.
this discussion isn't a simple dps comparison between metamorphosis and emberstorm builds. it's fairly well demonstrated that 0/41/30 builds provide more damage out than deep demo but they provide less utility.
if your raid group needs the utility then meta IS better even though it's personal dps is lower. the point is, however, that meta isn't so far behind that your personal contribution will be laughable - think affliction locks in tBC, there only to provide CoE. meta builds are capable of very good numbers and have interesting flexibility allowing extremely high dps on demand.
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Fingulfin
I would actually prefer FG/Ember for Deconstructor, because I have to RoF the adds. Emberstorm & associated talents make my rain of fire BEAST.
Post by
asakawa
lengthy, irharry did a pretty good breakdown of the various numbers to bear in mind when using demonic pact. i think it was in the raid compendium thread so take a look through that - i'll see if i can find it.
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