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Mana problems as a tank....
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Post by
Thordarian
Ive Ret pally'd for the past year and never had a mana problem...now that ive duel'd to tanking...im having all sorts of problems keeping my mana up between quick mobs such as H VH. I don't like to use SoJ and BoW but i do just to keep my mana regen up. Although since ive went to tanking for heroics, ive yet to wipe a group cause of this, i find ways to burn a pot from time to time to keep up.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Durotan&n=Thordarian&group=2
thats my talent build and you can check out my gear as well.
Any help will do...plus i do the 69 rotation...as well although ive yet to see a good reason to pop Conscration all the time....
Post by
Kaaosa
Edit: Also, at least 1/2 Spiritual Attunement.
Edit2: Got my talents mixed up. It's not Judgments of the Just that prolongs Divine Plea. But yes, get SA.
Post by
svirve
I don't like to use SoJ and BoW but i do just to keep my mana regen up
That's where you fail.
Use SoV, BoSanc and judge wisdom.
Problem fixed
Post by
Thordarian
i just realized i forgot to put a point in spiritual attunement....what a dumb ass lol
yep im burning myself lol
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Post by
Thordarian
have you seen any big returns with Divinity yet? there were questions bout it...i threw points in it right away for the extra healing bonus?
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Post by
Kaaosa
ive been prt for a long long time, and i use this build >
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZE0xA0ugGsIufdVf
never have any mana problems at all , just use BoS and use SoW and use divine plea on ure first hit in an instance raid and ure laughing. ;)No Deflection and using Seal of Wisdom?
uhhhh
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Post by
Kaaosa
ye my bad lol i meant SoC xD and ye no deflection why need defelction when ye have a shield ;) defelction is for retri that dont use sheilds.Uhh, no. 5% parry is 5% avoidance whether you have a shield or not. It's that low in the tree precisely so that prot paladins can still pick it up.
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Post by
Thordarian
well from most builds that i have read, and most raid running pallies, ive noticed that they've had points in that. and on elitestjerks.com i was going by there point system and they had question JotJ so i didn't put points in that...and the SA...i probably brain farted and forgot to put a point in it...as for divine plea ya i pop that every time it comes bout. as for deflection...um...parry is part of your tanking needs...parry dodge block...if i remember right? o.O and i have 5 pts in deflection.... and as a ret pally i don't put points in deflection...waste of points never needed it with the groups i run with
Post by
Thordarian
ive main tanked grobbulous as well with no problems in 10 man with a bit of direction so i kinda have a clue what im doing ....just trying to figure out that last snag...
Post by
Kaaosa
well from most builds that i have read, and most raid running pallies, ive noticed that they've had points in that. and on elitestjerks.com i was going by there point system and they had question JotJ so i didn't put points in that...and the SA...i probably brain farted and forgot to put a point in it...as for divine plea ya i pop that every time it comes bout. as for deflection...um...parry is part of your tanking needs...parry dodge block...if i remember right? o.O and i have 5 pts in deflection.... and as a ret pally i don't put points in deflection...waste of points never needed it with the groups i run with
JotJ is one of the best tools in the prot paladin's arsenal for staving off damage. If the boss is attacking slower, you're taking damage slower and your healers have more time between attacks to keep you up. Don't leave home without it.
Post by
Noxplod
Basically what i use... 3 talents left over. pick what you will i guess. i use 1 in reckoning and 2 in Imp Might incase there are no rets in group for the AP guys.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZE0xA0uMGsIufdEb:p0Ncm
Use Sanctuary in 5mans, kings in raids if there are no other pallys, tank with Seal of Corruption/Vengeance, if you have ANY kind of REAL DPS with you your gonna loose threat with anything other than S.o.V./S.o.Corr. Keep Divne plea up. Easy sauce. I only have like 5644 mana, use a max threat rotation with no mana issues.
And yes.... like Kaaos said.... Deflection....
My armory
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Duskwood&n=Noxplod
Post by
Thordarian
well i uusally pull bout 1400k dps through most of the heroics...so not sure dps will be a problem although i have a atk pwr enchant on my sword cause i figured it be better for keeping threat...but gonna switch it to something else. when the realms come up ill be respec'n for the points i need to put in. thanks for the advise...the burns...and pointers
Post by
Kaaosa
As long as we're tossing around specs, this is the base of what I use
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sVZE0xAMuMGsIufdxo:p0fcz0
Gives you two points to do whatever you feel is best (I have them in Guardian's Favor, but might grab Imp BoM when servers come back up), but the 5 points in holy are better damage/threat than going into ret for more crit.
Post by
Thordarian
oh one other thing...i found a tanking macro that goes through the rotations for me on one click...not sure if its working...does anyone else use one as well?
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Post by
svirve
oh one other thing...i found a tanking macro that goes through the rotations for me on one click...not sure if its working...does anyone else use one as well?
Part of being a good tank is being able to think on the fly and make adjustments accordingly. Having your rotation in a cast sequence macro is not a good idea as it prevents split seconds adjustments you have to make. It doesn't factor in things such as taunts, moving around etc. Bad idea IMO.
BUT MAH CUSIN SAID IT WAS DA BOMB!
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