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LB spam vs LvB/LB rotation
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Post by
windstrum
I've been messing around on the test dummies lately, and I'm a little depressed at what I'm finding.
Burning through my entire mana pool each time, I've tried two different approaches to DPS:
The old tried-and-true method of keeping up FS, firing off LvB when its off cooldown, and filling the rest with LB.
Spamming only LB.
I'm using Totem of Wrath, Wrath of Air and Mana Spring, and have Water Shield up. I'm not using Bloodlust.
Every time I run this test, I do
higher
dps with the second test, the straight LB spam. Not just a little bit more, but much more. 600dps more, or about 20% more.
Worse still, the traditional FS/LvB rotation includes the use of my
Mark of the War Prisoner
trinket "Use" proc, while the lightning bolt spam doesn't include using this trinket.
What gives? Has anyone else done this themselves?
I'm also tipping that (although I haven't tried it), increasing my crit rating at the expense of haste will pump it up even further.
Edit: In case it isn't obvious, my armory link is in my sig (Windstrum). I'm in my elemental spec at the time of writing this.
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Post by
windstrum
I just tried this myself - same setup (also no tier bonuses) but noticed the complete opposite. With FS > LvB > LB priority I noticed a 600dps increase or roughly 20%.
Maybe you had really good RNG on your LB spam test or something? =/
Maybe. I've done both tests probably half a dozen times over a few days. I know that's probably still not a big enough sample size. It still seems a little odd to me though. I haven't yet tried it in a raid situation to see if I notice a difference. I guess that's the next step.
Post by
binkenstein
I just tried this myself - same setup (also no tier bonuses) but noticed the complete opposite. With FS > LvB > LB priority I noticed a 600dps increase or roughly 20%.
Maybe you had really good RNG on your LB spam test or something? =/
This is roughly the difference I'm expecting to see from my spreadsheet.
Post by
Haxzor
I was noticing the same thing, with my LB crits doing around 1000-2000 less damage than my LvB crits, but coming more often
ok, just tested it, my LB spamming got me about 800 more dps
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Post by
Haxzor
LB came out at 48%(crit) on my test.
atm my spec and glyphs are perfect
my tests went for 2 mins each
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Post by
Haxzor
I'm going to test it out on Patch later
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Post by
Haxzor
I'll do a test for both methods, untill I'm oom.
One question: is this the current patch or on the PTR?
it's impossible to go oom using FS,LvB,LB
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Post by
Glorfmorph
I'll do a test for both methods, untill I'm oom.
One question: is this the current patch or on the PTR?
it's impossible to go oom using FS,LvB,LB
...You're casting spells that cost mana.
You have a limited supply of mana.
Unless you're stacking MP5 i really don't understand how you come to this conclusion.
Post by
Haxzor
your stupid amount of mana regen, and lack of huge spell costs
replenish, TS
Post by
Glorfmorph
Ahhhhh, but we were talking about testing DPS weren't we?
So I would have to assume we're using the Boss training dummy in Org?
Post by
Haxzor
on Hodir, it's better to LvB
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Post by
Haxzor
It would seem with enough crit, and the right glyphing that LB spam would surely surpass the rotation
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