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Quest
Use the edit link for future editing. It just easier.
I would suggest you read up on the stickies at the top of this forum if you have not. They have been organized into trees now. After such if you have any questions let us know.
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Post by
Eldmor
ok ill check them out,but im also looking for advice from other players as well as stickie info so if you have any id love to hear it. :)
Our advice: Read the stickies. ;D
Post by
Monday
hmm... imo drop EforE and grab improved blessing o' might. And i say get seal of command
Post by
JemiS
Funden, I think you were looking at his PvP spec, not PvE.
Never gem or enchant for haste or spellpower. Also do not gem for attack power. Put +16 str gems into almost everything, saving the blue (+8 str +12 stam) gems for the two slots with the best (read: strength) bonuses so you can activate your meta gem, which should be Chaotic Skyflare.
Basically, your gems and leg armor are all wrong. Replace them, and your gear looks OK, although you should try to upgrade your trinkets. Especially the Spellpower one.
And as to the PvE spec, you really should have 5 points into Seals of the Pure, and be using Seal of Vengeance/Corruption on every boss. Oh, and you cannot just skip Righteous Vengeance and Swift Retribution. Drop the points in Divine Purpose, and spec a 5/11/55 build.
Post by
PessimiStick
Put +16 str gems into almost everything, saving the blue (+8 str +12 stam) gems for the two slots with the best (read: strength) bonuses so you can activate your meta gem, which should be Chaotic Skyflare. RED + Tear + pure Bold is better for most gearsets.
Post by
JemiS
True, but Tear is also a good bit more expensive, at least on my server.
And I have never found maintaining 2 blue gems to hurt- I usually have very good stat bonuses for at least two slots (+6 str).
Post by
PessimiStick
True, but Tear is also a good bit more expensive, at least on my server.
And I have never found maintaining 2 blue gems to hurt- I usually have very good stat bonuses for at least two slots (+6 str).
Even if you have two 6 Str sockets, RED is better.
32 Str and 21 Crit
vs.
36 Str and 31 Agility
Post by
JemiS
True, but Tear is also a good bit more expensive, at least on my server.
And I have never found maintaining 2 blue gems to hurt- I usually have very good stat bonuses for at least two slots (+6 str).
Even if you have two 6 Str sockets, RED is better.
32 Str and 21 Crit
vs.
36 Str and 31 Agility
As I said before, it is better. Yes. But at least on my server, the combo costs around 200-400g more. I would not think the benefits of +4 str and a fractional amount of crit to be worth that at his gear level.
Post by
Quest
Please consult my ret stats weighs in the stickies for determining if you should socket anything but 20str.
95% of the time, youll want str. and one nightmare tear strategically placed to get a str socket bonus. The NM tear will activate your meta by itself, unless youre bad and have the crit meta:P
Post by
Quest
True, but Tear is also a good bit more expensive, at least on my server.
And I have never found maintaining 2 blue gems to hurt- I usually have very good stat bonuses for at least two slots (+6 str).
Even if you have two 6 Str sockets, RED is better.
32 Str and 21 Crit
vs.
36 Str and 31 Agility
As I said before, it is better. Yes. But at least on my server, the combo costs around 200-400g more. I would not think the benefits of +4 str and a fractional amount of crit to be worth that at his gear level.
It depends. here is my philosophy on it
What else are you doing in game?
But seriously, if I could do dailies for 2 hours a day and get +4 str each time, It would obviously be worth it right? So why wouldent doing it once be worth it?
Post by
PessimiStick
I wish I could buy 4 stats for 200g. I'd be doing like 20k DPS.
Post by
JemiS
But when I would see him upgrading the helm in 1-2 weeks, then it's not worth it. When he gets a reasonable helm (lets say T8), then I would certainly use NM tear + Earthsiege.
Maybe it's just my server, but NM Tears sell for around 300g, and Earthseige metas for well over 100.
But sure, once you have reasonably stable gear that deserves decent gems, go for it.
::edit:: My rule of thumb now is that I won't spend more than 100ish G enchanting anything under ilevel 213, because it will be replaced in short order. IE, I won't put Berserking on the Champion Seals sword.
But that's just me.
Post by
PessimiStick
My Paladin is my alt, and she has full epic gems/max enchants for her main
and
offspec.
Gold is completely trivial now. I don't even farm anything and I have more than I can spend without trying to buy every BoE epic just for the hell of it.
Post by
JemiS
But are we talking about your alt, or the OP here?
I mean, good for you that you have the gold, but.... There are so many upgrades the OP can buy before dropping a lot on 'the best' gem combos, I'd focus on those and then see how much I had left, if I were him.
I mean, if you look at his gear, his hit rating is 131- at this point, he should be gemming hit and enchanting hit.
He could spend a few hundred gold and replace both rings with either BoE raid drops or JC crafted to get huge upgrades.
He could buy some of the lesser Darkmoon cards to get a huge trinket boost.
He needs to upgrade to the Spiked Titansteel helm to get some much needed +hit, not to mention more strength.
Cloak of Bloodied Waters is also a buyable (~200g) upgrade.
My point is not that the NM tear + RED is not worth the cost, but that he should get a workable (albeit slightly worse) meta cheaply, then upgrade the rest of his gear to decent levels, then look at getting a good gem combo. When all of his pieces that he'd put the NM tear in are due to be upgraded in short order.....
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481108
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Post by
JemiS
You should not avoid SoC as ret- it's great for trash in Heroics, I only use SoV on bosses.
The spec is a little better, but not much.
Here
is the spec you should be using.
Gem STR, with enough +hit to cap it (273). You probably will not gem anything but +STR (and a nightmare tear) through the rest of your career.
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