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Is FoL healing for raids viable?
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Post by
Xepp
Hey!
I always liked FoL, its fast and heals for decent amount. I recently respecced holy and using gear I picked up during tanking and was reading some about how to tank and apparently mainly using Healing Light is the "best" way of tank healing in ToC. However I saw some guys mention that FoL spam is viable and very mana-friendly.
So I wonder what would I need to think about if I wanna heal mainly with FoL? Is it even viable?
I got about 2100sp, 34% crit, 21k mana and about 350 haste unbuffed. Are there any gear requirements to be able to heal in raids with FoL?
Thanks!
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Post by
slasher0161
FoL healing involves an entirely different set up to HL healing, FoL healing style is most effective with the 4p T8 set bonus + 51/20/0 build to get the most mileage out of your sp (which you will then in turn stack to compensate for the underpowered size of FoL). All in all it probably can work out just as well but i can't see many fights that i would prefer it over the standard HL set up.
Post by
Phaydren
Even in 25 man's FoL spamming is perfectly viable so long as you know when to switch, thats the important part, you have to know when the high damage phases of the fight are about to begin, or if the whole fight itself if healing intensive ( think back to 3.0 patchwerk when all we had was T7/.5, HL spamming was a must)
The main stategy behind hl spamming is keeping Sacred shield up, and cross healing either yourself (a dead healer is a useless healer) or the offtank or other significant player (kiters or people on orb duty on anub)
Weave in a Holy shock (save it for points in a fight where you know some spike damage may occour, it's invaluable for a quick heal on a frostblocked person in the KT fight or if someone gets hit by teh firewall and is about to go down in sarth) to get off the occasions instant FoL and it's in the bag
Only switch to HL spamming if you have the mana pool and haste to support it or the fight demands it (gormoks impale on HC mode for example)
I generaly go with the FoL spamming technique, although my gear is decent enough for short HL spams too
Post by
slasher0161
although my gear is decent enough for short HL spams too
Not to sound rude here, but looking at your gear its set up for HL spam, if you can only sustain it for a "short" time then chances are your not rotating cool downs right or your just too stuck in the fol mindset (not that its a bad thing just doesn't work for me). By rights though with the difference in gear between your pally and mine i would say you should be able to at least sustain a HL spam for 2.5mins as in t7 i comfortably sustain 1:30 with cooldown rotating.
Post by
Brique
Flash of Light "style healing" doesn't require some assbackwards adjusting, re-gearing, or a certain spec.
There's content where casting FoL will give you perfectly fine HPS, and that's the stuff you outgear.
If you find yourself never needing to use Holy Light:
Move on.
Flash of Light will have its niche, but there are only three healing spells ffs. Do you seriously think that avoiding one of them is a "good" idea?
Use all the spells you have available, use your judgement as to which is actually going to keep your mana up and keep the raid from dying. If someone will die in the time it takes to cast Holy Light, then adjust. There isn't a rotation to follow. Don't think that one of the spells is "bad", we don't suffer from that problem.
Rotating DP with Avenging Wrath, trinkets, and Divine Illumination is one of the bad ideas I see people preach. It doesn't offset as much as you think it does. Use DP on tank cooldowns and the downtime you can expect between the BURST lull BURST cycle that you see in WotLK raiding. If you can't hold it back, if you're starving for mana, ask for a shieldwall, a mana tide, an innervate, I don't freaking care, use your raid and don't nerf yourself to the point where you might wipe the raid. The extra 10% healing you squeeze out of those CDs with Divine Plea will not save a tank. It won't. You're better off not using a CD and saving it for the times where you know fight will demand "some more Holy Lights" or a "small damage massive aoe".
Post by
Phaydren
Well by short i mean short sustained burts, i can manage the duration your talking about while using cooldowns but i like to manage my mana as efficently as possilble, also having cooldowns available when i need them rather than using them in a lossy rotation where im only truly contributing to my overheal just goes against my healing style.
Also although it's only truly effective on one person vs a raid, haveing 4 piece T9 does help with FoL spamming as i can get up to 1.2k ticing hots which really help keep the tank up ( shame the HoT portion of FoL wont translate through the beacon xD )
Thanks for bringin up the HL gear setup though, true i am setup for that but it also benifits my FoL playstyle too, with the larger mana pool for the HL setup i an afford to stack a lot more haste soon and the increased cost due to faster casting frequency will be offset somewhat :D
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Post by
valundar
In 25 mans I usually Beacon the offtank, then Sacred shield the MT. Cast 1 FoL, then Holy Light spam, refreshing Sacred shield and the FoL hot whenever needed. For a quick heal on the tank or myself I just use Holy Shock.
That sounds like what I do.
Except.. i will also toss a FoL on other ss'd targets if any..
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