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Is FFB dead?
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Post by
drewcifer
So should i respec into arcane or stick with FFB? I pull decent dps, but would love to do more :)
I like the dps and ease of FFB, so if i switch whats a good raiding arcane build and rotation?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Anvilmar&n=Potbelly
Post by
Achloryn
ffb isn't dead, but arcane will put out more dps, and relies less on hit and crit.. see the stickies for specifics
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Post by
thalazyrican
FFB is dead. end of story. just get more haste and ur golden...Fire/ttw and arcane are really only viable raid specs. AND arcane is better then fire atm
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Post by
Crawshayi
I could never give up my second favourite spell animation and our only DOT.
Never.
Only DoT? I hope that was a joke.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42891
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42833
(unglyphed)
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12848
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=55360
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42926
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42940
Post by
Achloryn
FFB is dead. end of story. just get more haste and ur golden...Fire/ttw and arcane are really only viable raid specs. AND arcane is better then fire atm
absolute baldfaced lie.. FFB is not a viable spec for raiding anymore? you have funny ideas of what that means.
FFB may be the bottom of the "big 3" pve mage specs, but that does not mean it's not viable by a damn sight, and you're kidding yourself if you think it does.
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345952
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Post by
Crawshayi
I don't count the burn damage as a DOT since it's not really one you apply for the sake of doing damage over time - it's just a bonus to the nuke.
And what exactly do you call the DoT from FFB? I have never heard anyone ask if the DoT from FFB is hitting hard enough. It is simply an added bonus, just like you said about all the other fire spells.
Also, the DoT effect from FFB is very weak compared to the spells I linked. It is only 90 damage extra. Check how much extra Pyroblast gets. Anyway the point was you specified the effect on FFB as our only DoT and I just wanted to point out how incorrect that was. The only DoTs we have that do decent damage and should be taken into consideration are Ignite and Living Bomb. That's it. The rest are just gravy.
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Post by
Rivertold
FFB is so not dead. I play a FFB mage and am usually able to pull 2k+ DPS in all instances, minus raid buffs, of course. I've considered dual-speccing arcane, but I just never seem to have the money on hand.
If 2k is what you aim for...
None of the specs are dead - there are just better and worse. And bottom line is, like it or not, that arcane IS highest DPS spec at the moment.
I hear you say "Yeah, but I pull decent DPS as Frostfire!" to which I reply "Sure, but you'll squeeze out more as arcane".
Personally, I prefer Frostfire too, but my prio is more dps. Simple as that.
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Post by
Cutlocks
I personally love FFB, I don't think I could ever go arcane. Sides I still pull quite a bit of DPS. You should'nt be gemming hit anyways, you can get it easily thru gear. I gemmed full SP so that I have a crap load of SP. the more SP the better. and sides it dont matter whether you are arcane or FFB, it matters on which is easier for you to play and pull that dps.
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Post by
Rivertold
My prio is fun. Keep on growing your e-peen with high arcane recount numbers...
As for numbers. I do around 2k-5.6k - very situational.
And my prio is doing my best in raids, because I expect it from everyone else. Damage is the name of the mage game and I'm set on doing it right.
You can say "my prio is fun" all you want - so is everyone else's. Let me remind you also, that raiding is team work, where group > person and I prefer to see more of end-game content than to press 1 button more for my rotation. If that's not your thing - fine, no one forces you.
Oh, and yes, my e-peen will continue to grow, thank you very much.
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Post by
thalazyrican
ok so if ya wanna say FFB isnt dead be my guest but fact of the matter is that the dps is very low compared to arcane and fire. i push out about 7.5k dps on most bosses w/ arcane. ive seen a better geared FFB pull no more then 6k @ best. so maybe FFB isnt "dead" but imo subpar dps= dead spec. FFB & Frost are "dead" raid specs end of story.
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