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Is BM back as a viable raid spec?
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Sokur
I raided T6 content in BC as BM and rotated with another hunter as the only SV hunter in the guild for the EW buff. I love BM and leveled to 80 as BM.
The question at hand:
Is BM back as a viable DPS raid spec? I heard some respectable hunters on my server chatting over trade that a BM hunter with a Devilsaur is very good DPS. I was just wondering how much truth there is to that.
Edit: I asked if they knew the talents the BM hunters were using, they did not know. I'm doing some research into that.
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Sokur
This is the talent build i'll be using in one more level
BM 53/18/0
with a Wolf
Tenacity
. I took 3/3 Focused Aim as it does apply to your pet now and I'm not hit capped. Once I reach cap I'll move those 3 points from Focused Aim into Imp. Arcane Shot for a total of 24% damage increase to Arcane Shot.
Post by
Hurono
...you are giving them +3% dmg buff too
Overwritten by Ret Aura.
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Sokur
If you run both a Wolf & a Devilsaur through the Spreadsheet the Devilsaur beats the Wolf in terms of just pet DPS. The Wolf with Furious Howl is up for 20 seconds with a 28 second cooldown, meaning that its up for 20, down for 8, up for 20, down for 8 in a steady fight. That is what makes it the highest DPS pet because it's buffing you and itself where as the devilsaur is just buffing itself.
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Hurono
I personally don't like Devilsaurs... Too big of a hit box... I'd say try a Dragonhawk or Silithid for Cunning. If not, then go for a wolf if, like me, you dislike devilsaurs.
NOW WAIT! Why Cunning?
I swapped from my 74 wolf to a silithid (70). When I used Roar of Recovery with BW and Aspect of the Dragonhawk... My solo DPS went from 10XX to 12XX on a 70 training dummy.
The reason this is? I have the silithid in DPS talents, and that will, of course, keep it's DPS going higher. The silithid gets a DoT (Dragonhawk gets a cone of damage for a few secs), also boosting its damage. When I went BW + Rapid Fire + Trinkets + RoR, I was not only doing more damage, I didn't have to use Viper for mana for 9 seconds. That kept my mana going high, and I pulled massive damage from it. Granted my gear at this lev is terrific, but I'm still happy with the turn out.
I just don't know WHY people don't use Cunning more often.
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Hurono
And one last advice is ( many hunters are skipping that )
in boss fights , keep using dragonhawk aspect but everytime you gonna activate BW switch your aspect to the aspect of the Beast and when BW ends switch your aspect back to dragonhawk this will pump your dps alot in 25 mens
Good thinking, but first, I'd like to see hard numbers and gear. Also, the bigger reason I'm skeptical: You do know your own AP scales a bit with your pet... Correct?
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Sokur
I just ran two Heroics, VoA reg & VoA Heroic one hour after dinging 80. I averaged 2.3K DPS in the Heroics, 2.4K in VoA 10 & 2.8K in VoA 25. I was using my level 78 Wolf with
Rabid
(31.5 sec cd),
Furious Howl
(28 sec cd) &
Bite 10
on autocast.
Rotation was Serpent Sting, Arcane, Steady, Steady, Arcane and refreshing Serpent before it fell off. Mana was not an issue (never once touched viper) as there was a SV hunter and 2 Ret Pallies in both VoA runs so Replenish was always up. I was quite pleased with my DPS just after hitting 80 & having a level 78 pet.
*Armory is in sig*
Edit: One thing to note, I am actually OVER hit cap at 268 (5 points) so I moved the three points from Focused Aim into Imp. Arcane Shot. I'm also still in 4 pieces of Epic 70 Raid Gear (don't laugh, it's still good gear)
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